Post by ninjabridemom on Jun 30, 2015 11:19:54 GMT -5
Snobby answer coming:
I think it depends on if they have an education degree. The boys' school is technically a daycare but every teacher (not aide, teacher) has to have a college degree in early childhood ed.
They let people start as aides and get their degree while working there if there's consistent progress but still.
So that's my answer. Degree = teacher. No degree = worker.
ETA unless they put assistant in front I assume someone saying "teacher" has their degree and is a teacher.
maybe not a "legit teacher" who could go teach high school but I consider them pretty close since all of the workers at our daycare have taken training focused on early childhood development so they're not just people who walked in looking for any job. I know my kid learns a lot more with them then I can teach her.
I mean....I kind of consider most daycare workers teachers. I guess not infant ones. But all the rest, Yes. They teach. My kid knows her numbers, some letters, can sight read a few things, understands patterns, etc. Honestly, I get a little frustrated when people judge for parents calling their daycares schools. They are schools. Kids learn there. They don't all learn the same things, but they are learning, even as simple as socialization skills
I had never given it any thought either until someone I know via the interwebs, started referring to themselves as a teacher when in fact they were an aide who covered study halls and after school programs. They had no formal training and did not have a college degree. It made me sad for the teachers in this world who have taken the steps to get certified, etc to teach the youth of our nation.
With that being said, I believe it takes a community to raise the children so any positive interactions they have with community members, teachers, coaches, aides, advisors, club sponsors, etc is a good thing. It just rubs me wrong when people pretend to be something they are not. I know, I know, happens everyday.
I typically think legit teacher, just because all the teachers above the young toddler room level at our school have teaching degrees.
ETA: after I have these babies I will probably go to work at the school as a floater in a year or so, and I wouldn't call myself a teacher. I'd just be an employee.
I think they are "legit" either way. But I don't assume a state teacher's license with that title. My DD had a preschool teacher in a 3 year old preschool program 3 days a week - no state license. And a preschool teacher in her child care program the year before kindergarten -again, no state license.
If someone says that they are a pediatrician, I don't think, 'That person is not a legit doctor.'
Age of clientele is not a consideration in judging professionalism.
Also, I super don't care that that is a non-nuanced answer and I may potentially be comparing apples to oranges. If someone uses the term teacher to refer to themselves then I am going to assume they know what they are saying and that that title confers a certain assumption of legitimacy and distinguishes itself from a daycare worker.
If someone says that they are a pediatrician, I don't think, 'That person is not a legit doctor.'
Age of clientele is not a consideration in judging professionalism.
This is not the same comparison. You need to have a medical degree to be a pediatrician. Many preschool/child care teachers do not.
Also, I super don't care that that is a non-nuanced answer and I may potentially be comparing apples to oranges. If someone uses the term teacher to refer to themselves then I am going to assume they know what they are saying and that that title confers a certain assumption of legitimacy and distinguishes itself from a daycare worker.
And where I was coming from with my original response was that being a preschool teacher is as legit as say a teacher to an older age group, which I guess missed the gist of this post. *waves from left field*
Post by shamrockshake on Jun 30, 2015 11:36:18 GMT -5
I guess it would depend on where they're working. I had a friend who was a preschool teacher at the Y, she had no teaching experience at all, so daycare or Y or setting like that- daycare worker
but we have a preschool at my kids grade school, I would consider her a legit teacher, I mean, she IS a legit teacher with qualifications and all that jazz
I think it depends on if they have an education degree. The boys' school is technically a daycare but every teacher (not aide, teacher) has to have a college degree in early childhood ed.
They let people start as aides and get their degree while working there if there's consistent progress but still.
So that's my answer. Degree = teacher. No degree = worker.
ETA unless they put assistant in front I assume someone saying "teacher" has their degree and is a teacher.
So, my boss sent out an email that said I accepted a preschool teaching job and yay congrats Luna to errybody. I immediately felt like NOOOO! It sounded like a step down to me. I was a daycare teacher for years, I was certified, but I didn't go to school for it, I took a 40 hour class. Now I've graduated and state certified in 3 different specialties, I dont want people to think I'm going to back to daycare.
I think this is just my own issue and I need to get over it, but I wanted to see what other people thought.
I really don't think anyone gave it that much thought.
I think it depends on if they have an education degree. The boys' school is technically a daycare but every teacher (not aide, teacher) has to have a college degree in early childhood ed.
They let people start as aides and get their degree while working there if there's consistent progress but still.
So that's my answer. Degree = teacher. No degree = worker.
ETA unless they put assistant in front I assume someone saying "teacher" has their degree and is a teacher.
So, my boss sent out an email that said I accepted a preschool teaching job and yay congrats Luna to errybody. I immediately felt like NOOOO! It sounded like a step down to me. I was a daycare teacher for years, I was certified, but I didn't go to school for it, I took a 40 hour class. Now I've graduated and state certified in 3 different specialties, I dont want people to think I'm going to back to daycare.
I think this is just my own issue and I need to get over it, but I wanted to see what other people thought.
Lead teacher - specialty teacher... What's your new title? Boss should use the title-ish.
I'm probably being a snob and overthinking. I rationally know that know one else cares, but I do.
You are and you aren't. Most people (although apparently not on ML) have a rather low opinion of child care teachers so I understand where the defensiveness is coming from. Wanting to everyone to know just how educated you are so they know you are better than those other people is snobbish.
All the preschool teachers I know (and myself) have at least an AA but usually a BA in ECE or a related field so I usually assume legit teacher. And in a lot of cases they are furthering their education while they teach full time.
Post by Booze Raccoon on Jun 30, 2015 12:24:56 GMT -5
My sister has her masters in education. She has taught in an elementary school for 15 years. This year however she has decided to make a move to preschool. Anecdote party of 1.