England Football deletes condescending tweet

[mbcdefg]

England women's team: FA deletes 'unfortunate' tweet


www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33416006 


The Football Association has deleted an "unfortunate" social media post in which it said England's women's team were "going back to being mothers" after returning from the World Cup.



The @england Twitter post read: "Our #Lionesses go back to being mothers, partners and daughters today, but they have taken on another title - heroes."





The message was deleted and the same wording in an online story was changed.



An FA source told the Press Association it had been "unfortunately phrased".



In statement, the FA added: "The full story was a wider homecoming feature attempting to reflect the many personal stories within the playing squad as has been told throughout the course of the tournament.



"However, we understand that an element of the story appears to have been taken out of context and the opening paragraph was subsequently revised to reflect that fact."



The author of the online article, James Callow, said he rejected "any accusation of sexism".



"The piece is intended to sum up a nice moment when players are reunited with their families," he wrote on his own Twitter account.



"Human interest is a big part of any sports reporting. I'd have done the same for England men, absolutely."



England finished third at the Women's World Cup in Canada after beating Germany 1-0 after extra-time in their final match on Saturday.

[pixy0stix]

Toddle along, little girls. You were once big and brave, but now you're just a uterus.

[2curlydogs]

As always, defined thru our relationship to other men, not thru our own accomplishments. Mothers, wives, daughters. Not entrepreneurs, volunteers, coaches, authors, or even athletes.

[josieposy]

How's he author gonna feel about it when the team shows up to kick his ass?

[NewOrleans]

This is like in a League of Their Own at the end.

And they were still wives and mothers when they were playing, shitwit.

[FloFTW]

For some reason this is making me especially ragey. Are the male players all single sterile people born literally out of an iron womb instead of a mother? In any case they still would have had parents.

[blink]

Because women don't have jobs or hobbies? Just children and parents.

[IIOY]

[2curlydogs]

Jul 7, 2015 11:30:08 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Is that a rhetorical question?

[meshaliuknits]

Jul 7, 2015 9:09:02 GMT -5 josieposy said:

How's he author gonna feel about it when the team shows up to kick his ass?

Say there will be PPV!

[elleblue]

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

[cattledogkisses]

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

Oh dear. This is unfortunate. 

The use of "girls" also grates. What's wrong with calling them women?

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2015 11:42:12 GMT -5 @koko said:

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

I am dead.  DEAD UPON THE FLOOR.  HOW DID SOMEBODY CLEAR THIS?!?!

I don't know! I die every time I read this banner. It's a blessing no one took it literally. 

[Anne Blythe]

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2015 11:47:10 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

I get that there are 3 lions on the shield, but if you don't know each team's crest, it's so unclear for whom you are cheering, and that bugs me the most! IMO, the punctuation issue is secondary. I mean, it's more hilarious, but what makes that banner so stupid is that you can use it at the stadium for almost any team and no one will notice.

Your brain must be automatically filling in the appropriate comma, lol. 

[heyjude]

It's totally fair because you know they had the same tweat when England went home in the men's tournament last year. "our brave men come home to their roles as husband, father, and brother, but also hero." That definitely happened.

[IIOY]

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

This is just so British. They will call women "girls" until the End of Days.

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2015 12:20:09 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

This is just so British. They will call women "girls" until the End of Days.

This is true. And also why the "our girls" doesn't bother me nearly as much as the missing comma. 

[frlcb]

Jul 7, 2015 12:20:09 GMT -5 IIOY said:

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

This is just so British. They will call women "girls" until the End of Days.

Exactly - this is just very British. We should be grateful it doesn't say Come On Pets! Or Come On Our Loves. It could actually be worse.

[twohearted]

Huh. I guess I wasn't struck by the sexism part off the bat because I never think of athletes as doing anything beyond their athletic careers. When a season ends I do think of the male athletes as going back to being husbands and fathers even though I know that some do other things. And they probably continue to train. I just think that's their job and when the season ends they don't have any obligations besides family. In the middle of the season I imagine those responsibilities are somewhat suspended. I am probably in the minority thinking this way so I can see the sexism once it is pointed out.

[2curlydogs]

Jul 7, 2015 13:49:23 GMT -5 twohearted said:

Huh. I guess I wasn't struck by the sexism part off the bat because I never think of athletes as doing anything beyond their athletic careers. When a season ends I do think of the male athletes as going back to being husbands and fathers even though I know that some do other things. And they probably continue to train. I just think that's their job and when the season ends they don't have any obligations besides family. In the middle of the season I imagine those responsibilities are somewhat suspended. I am probably in the minority thinking this way so I can see the sexism once it is pointed out.

Except they're not going back home to just sit on their ass or even train. It's the middle of club season! Most of these women are on a Premiership team - Arsenal, Chelsea, Sunderland, Liverpool, etc.. They're getting right back out on the pitch with games this weekend.

YOU are forgiven for not knowing this because many Americans don't follow Prem, much less WSL. But the FUCKING FA SHOULD GODDAMN KNOW BETTER.

[twohearted]

Jul 7, 2015 14:02:51 GMT -5 2curlydogs said:

Jul 7, 2015 13:49:23 GMT -5 twohearted said:

Huh. I guess I wasn't struck by the sexism part off the bat because I never think of athletes as doing anything beyond their athletic careers. When a season ends I do think of the male athletes as going back to being husbands and fathers even though I know that some do other things. And they probably continue to train. I just think that's their job and when the season ends they don't have any obligations besides family. In the middle of the season I imagine those responsibilities are somewhat suspended. I am probably in the minority thinking this way so I can see the sexism once it is pointed out.

Except they're not going back home to just sit on their ass or even train. It's the middle of club season! Most of these women are on a Premiership team - Arsenal, Chelsea, Sunderland, Liverpool, etc.. They're getting right back out on the pitch with games this weekend.

YOU are forgiven for not knowing this because many Americans don't follow Prem, much less WSL. But the FUCKING FA SHOULD GODDAMN KNOW BETTER.

Thanks. That clears it up a lot more for me. (Where is the emoji for sincerity?)

[IIOY]

Jul 7, 2015 14:06:51 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

Jul 7, 2015 12:35:22 GMT -5 frlcb said:

Exactly - this is just very British. We should be grateful it doesn't say Come On Pets! Or Come On Our Loves. It could actually be worse.

To be clear, my issue isn't with "girls."  It's the lack of specificity.  If I saw that on the TV quickly, I'd have no clue which team the people were supporting!

"Come on English girls!" would have bothered me less even with the same missing comma.  Somehow that's even more hilarious than just "come on our girls" hah.

This is suddenly making me laugh so hard.  Somehow I hadn't read it this way until just now.

Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily excusing use of the word "girls," although TBF, the British also use "boys" far more than Americans do to describe grown men.  I was just making the point that use of "girls" was so quintessentially British that I read the sign in a British accent in my head and thought, "Of course they used girls."

Lemonade take: they didn't use "cows."

[mbcdefg]

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

Is this slang term used in Britain? Or would it be like an American using, say, "snog" (where we're familiar with what it means but we'd likely never use it)? 

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2015 15:02:30 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Jul 7, 2015 11:38:09 GMT -5 elleblue said:

I suppose this doesn't shock me given their slogan this year. What you write and how it's written (including punctuation or lack thereof) is important people. 

Is this slang term used in Britain? Or would it be like an American using, say, "snog" (where we're familiar with what it means but we'd likely never use it)? 

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking? "Our _____" is common phrasing - like a sibling might refer to "our Matthew" meaning her brother Matthew and the encouragement of "come on" is common too (here as well, obviously). So "our girls" would mean the UK women's team. But when it's said out loud there's a comma/pause between the "come on" and the "our girls" which makes it different from what's printed - "come on our girls!" which sounds more like a red light district slogan than something for an athletic team.

[heyjude]

Snog?

[elleblue]

Jul 7, 2015 15:24:43 GMT -5 heyjude said:

Snog?

Kiss (more specifically make out)

[mbcdefg]

Jul 7, 2015 15:23:30 GMT -5 elleblue said:

Jul 7, 2015 15:02:30 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

Is this slang term used in Britain? Or would it be like an American using, say, "snog" (where we're familiar with what it means but we'd likely never use it)? 

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking? "Our _____" is common phrasing - like a sibling might refer to "our Matthew" meaning her brother Matthew and the encouragement of "come on" is common too (here as well, obviously). So "our girls" would mean the UK women's team. But when it's said out loud there's a comma/pause between the "come on" and the "our girls" which makes it different from what's printed - "come on our girls!" which sounds more like a red light district slogan than something for an athletic team.

I'm asking if to "come on" a person is used as a slang term for ej.aculation in the U.K., like how it is in the U.S. 

"Snog" isn't in the same context here, but that was the first word I could think of where British people use it but Americans don't (even though many Americans are aware that it means "making out"). 

Or maybe using "bloody" as profanity is a good comparison? Something where it carries different weight in the U.K. than in the U.S.? 

[meshaliuknits]

I use bloody as profanity. I read a lot of regency era romance novels.lol

[mbcdefg]

Jul 7, 2015 15:32:24 GMT -5 meshaliuknits said:

I use bloody as profanity. I read a lot of regency era romance novels.lol

I work in publishing with a girl whose family is British. She wrote an online post about the Bloomin' Onion appetizer at Outback Steakhouse, but before she pushed it live she went around the office asking people if they found the word "bloomin'" offensive. "Because I'd never say that in front of my grandmother!"