The non fat version does have an extra gram of sugar though. I know it's just a gram but it speaks to the concept of what happens when foods are made 'non-fat', whereby carbs are always increased in some way.
So, I always knew that skim milk had a lot of sugar in it, but I just realized that half and half and cream doesn't. Can someone break this down for me? I'm quite confused.
If you think of skim milk as just whole milk with fat removed, it doesn't make sense, necessarily. But if you visualize it as a cup of unhomogenized whole milk with, say, an inch of cream floating at the top, then you scrape off that cream and supplement it with more skim milk, it might make sense. Basically, the fat is removed, but in its place is more lactose (milk sugars).
The non fat version does have an extra gram of sugar though. I know it's just a gram but it speaks to the concept of what happens when foods are made 'non-fat', whereby carbs are always increased in some way.
Well, if you take out the volume of fat (say you actually skim the teaspoon of cream off the top of unhomogenized milk) and add an equal volume of more skim milk, you do have a bit more carbs.
But it's not an Evil Processed Food any more than apple slices are. The protein in milk helps level off the sugar rush.
That said, whole milk makes great lattes, no weird sugar-free syrup needed.
The non fat version does have an extra gram of sugar though. I know it's just a gram but it speaks to the concept of what happens when foods are made 'non-fat', whereby carbs are always increased in some way.
The sugar content is the same in whole vs. nonfat milk. I'm not sure where you're seeing a difference?
My point in all this was just that silly me had never considered that milk had sugar in it. For whatever reason I hadn't thought about lactose as sugar. Which is dumb. Lol.
The non fat version does have an extra gram of sugar though. I know it's just a gram but it speaks to the concept of what happens when foods are made 'non-fat', whereby carbs are always increased in some way.
The sugar content is the same in whole vs. nonfat milk. I'm not sure where you're seeing a difference?
The difference isn't huge, but there is a difference. It's more pronounced, of course, if you compare half & half or heavy cream with skim milk.
The hilarity in all this is that the only reason I started thinking about this is because I am going to have a Blizzard today and was trying to keep my sugar numbers in MFP within the correct range.
So yes, I am here saying I want to cut out milk because of the sugar but am going to have a Blizzard today.
The sugar content is the same in whole vs. nonfat milk. I'm not sure where you're seeing a difference?
The difference isn't huge, but there is a difference. It's more pronounced, of course, if you compare half & half or heavy cream with skim milk.
Oh, I totally agree that there is a difference when comparing half and half or heavy cream with skim milk, but there is no carbohydrate/sugar difference in whole vs. skim milk.
So, I always knew that skim milk had a lot of sugar in it, but I just realized that half and half and cream doesn't. Can someone break this down for me? I'm quite confused.
If you think of skim milk as just whole milk with fat removed, it doesn't make sense, necessarily. But if you visualize it as a cup of unhomogenized whole milk with, say, an inch of cream floating at the top, then you scrape off that cream and supplement it with more skim milk, it might make sense. Basically, the fat is removed, but in its place is more lactose (milk sugars).
I don't know if I explained that well.
thank you! that really helped. So, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I need to change my starbucks order...
If you think of skim milk as just whole milk with fat removed, it doesn't make sense, necessarily. But if you visualize it as a cup of unhomogenized whole milk with, say, an inch of cream floating at the top, then you scrape off that cream and supplement it with more skim milk, it might make sense. Basically, the fat is removed, but in its place is more lactose (milk sugars).
I don't know if I explained that well.
thank you! that really helped. So, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I need to change my starbucks order...
Depends if sugar or calories is what you're concerned with in your coffee order. Remember catbus puts butter in her coffee.
thank you! that really helped. So, what I'm getting out of this thread is that I need to change my starbucks order...
Depends if sugar or calories is what you're concerned with in your coffee order. Remember catbus puts butter in her coffee.
It's true, I do--when I'm going low carb. If I can't commit to keeping carbs pretty low, I just drink my coffee black. But bulletproof coffee is my jam when I'm doing a low-carb streak.
Finally, the drama that @jeanniebueller was hoping for! (Jk)
catbus and I will totally get in a cat fight about that gram of sugar!
I admit I had in mind more the half & half/heavy cream vs. skim milk difference, which is much greater, but I still maintain that skim milk has slightly more sugar than whole.
The hilarity in all this is that the only reason I started thinking about this is because I am going to have a Blizzard today and was trying to keep my sugar numbers in MFP within the correct range.
So yes, I am here saying I want to cut out milk because of the sugar but am going to have a Blizzard today.
I refuse to make sense.
I saw that post on fb first and then this one. I was jealous. Lol
I will never understand paying for a plain iced latte at starbucks. The milk is right there for free! Get 3 shots of espresso over ice in a venti cup, add your free milk and save yourself $
I have not read all the comments to see if this was said already.
But if you want a whole cup full of nasty old milk that's been sitting there upwards of 2 hours feel free (it was changed every 2 hours when I worked there. And let's be honest, sometimes it was there longer).
But come on you know that's not what its there for.
I will never understand paying for a plain iced latte at starbucks. The milk is right there for free! Get 3 shots of espresso over ice in a venti cup, add your free milk and save yourself $
I have not read all the comments to see if this was said already.
But if you want a whole cup full of nasty old milk that's been sitting there upwards of 2 hours feel free (it was changed every 2 hours when I worked there. And let's be honest, sometimes it was there longer).
But come on you know that's not what its there for.
yes yes.. I know I know. I thought about it more after people commented and realized it was probably not a good suggestion. In my head it seemed like a great idea ...
of course now I feel a bit ick about the small bit of 2+ hour milk I add to my americano ... noooo