Post by rosesandpetals on Sept 25, 2015 23:44:30 GMT -5
Do you use it? Do you like it more/less than a traditional incentive chart? I like that parents can see it but I really dislike that the kids can't see it all the time.
And since I'm not sure I ever updated on here, I am going to be in the classroom this year afterall. I wasn't planning to originally so I'm playing catch up this weekend. We did get DD's schedule settled and got a routine we're comfortable with WRT EI and speech, no more surgeries on the horizon so I felt better about going back to an inflexible job. My new class has had a long term sub for the last couple weeks, so they need structure badly.
p.s. auroraloo I may pm you about letting kids choose their own books rather than class reading. Because of the lovely "3rd grade reading guarantee" any kids who don't pass the state test at the end of the year are automatically retained. Reading-intensive year, yayay.
All I know is dd's teacher uses it (first) and dd thinks it's the coolest thing ever. I haven't even logged on because they bring home their point tally daily and she's not having any issues.
Post by andrewsgal on Sept 26, 2015 7:25:52 GMT -5
I had never heard of this until this week. One of my friend's daughters teacher uses it she likes it, but the girl has been in trouble quite a bit lately and she stalks it daily. It causes a lot of craziness for her. I prefer not knowing until the end of the day,
I don't use it, but a couple co-workers do for their advisories. I could maybe see it being a bigger deal in elem? I don't like the negative aspect (losing points)
FOr reading choice get Donalyn Miller's Book Whisperer or REading in the Wild and Steven Layne's Igniting a passion for Reading.
When I used it with my 7th graders, I projected it up on the screen so they could see it. Is that an option? Even if I had to use the screen for something else it was easy to switch back to and they could hear me adding points if it wasn't up, which reminded them I was doing it.
So, in DD's class I guess it's on the smart board all the time and when they get a point they go up and add it themselves to their dojo? I think the visual helps some of them.
But really, like I said, I haven't logged in and DD1 is the kind of kid that will be good regardless, she's a rule follower. I have no idea how it would work for a kid that was having behavioral concerns.
So, in DD's class I guess it's on the smart board all the time and when they get a point they go up and add it themselves to their dojo? I think the visual helps some of them.
But really, like I said, I haven't logged in and DD1 is the kind of kid that will be good regardless, she's a rule follower. I have no idea how it would work for a kid that was having behavioral concerns.
See, this is one thing I don't like when teachers do this. Why should your kid get to see when my kid is losing a point for something?
So, in DD's class I guess it's on the smart board all the time and when they get a point they go up and add it themselves to their dojo? I think the visual helps some of them.
But really, like I said, I haven't logged in and DD1 is the kind of kid that will be good regardless, she's a rule follower. I have no idea how it would work for a kid that was having behavioral concerns.
See, this is one thing I don't like when teachers do this. Why should your kid get to see when my kid is losing a point for something?
Yea, I see what you mean, but even if the teacher was tracking at the desk, wouldn't the other kids still know if another kid was making a bad choice? The teacher is still verbally correcting the kid, I assume.
But I'm not a teacher and this is only our second year of school - and with a rule follower. So my perspective is obviously a skewed.
Based on what I've seen in Her class, I'm indifferent at this point.
See, this is one thing I don't like when teachers do this. Why should your kid get to see when my kid is losing a point for something?
Yea, I see what you mean, but even if the teacher was tracking at the desk, wouldn't the other kids still know if another kid was making a bad choice? The teacher is still verbally correcting the kid, I assume.
But I'm not a teacher and this is only our second year of school - and with a rule follower. So my perspective is obviously a skewed.
Based on what I've seen in Her class, I'm indifferent at this point.
It's pretty rare for me to verbally correct a student's behavior in front of the entire class. I will correct and redirect from a non-whole class perspective.
Stupid. Waste of time. Just give charts to kids need a bit of extrinsic motivation. Most kids don't need this, the are already intrinsically motivated at school.
Yea, I see what you mean, but even if the teacher was tracking at the desk, wouldn't the other kids still know if another kid was making a bad choice? The teacher is still verbally correcting the kid, I assume.
But I'm not a teacher and this is only our second year of school - and with a rule follower. So my perspective is obviously a skewed.
Based on what I've seen in Her class, I'm indifferent at this point.
It's pretty rare for me to verbally correct a student's behavior in front of the entire class. I will correct and redirect from a non-whole class perspective.
This is me. I teach media/tech for kindergarten, first and second grade and unless a student is doing something that I need to quickly address in a dangerous/unsafe situation (ie falling off the chair, hurting someone-and our library is HUGE-I can't race over quick enough) I always pull them aside privately.
They used it last year, but we weren't given access through the app. This year we have access through the app and it drives me a little crazy. I don't really want to know when he gets points, etc. As long as he comes home with a stamp and no folder sign or warning, I am good.
Yea, I see what you mean, but even if the teacher was tracking at the desk, wouldn't the other kids still know if another kid was making a bad choice? The teacher is still verbally correcting the kid, I assume.
But I'm not a teacher and this is only our second year of school - and with a rule follower. So my perspective is obviously a skewed.
Based on what I've seen in Her class, I'm indifferent at this point.
It's pretty rare for me to verbally correct a student's behavior in front of the entire class. I will correct and redirect from a non-whole class perspective.
Yes. I only ever used it for positive points, mostly for extra credit when participating in class. Some teachers in my school used it for negative, but I felt weird about posting negative points on the board.
Stupid. Waste of time. Just give charts to kids need a bit of extrinsic motivation. Most kids don't need this, the are already intrinsically motivated at school.
one of those first things the other teachers and principal said, even in the interview, was that they have almost no intrinsic motivation. It is inner city and many come from unstable environments so they need a lot of structure, boundaries, and rewards. I will start weaning them and by the end of the year expect very little in the way of extrinsic rewards, but initially that is not the case.
Andddd this is a big testing year and they're almost a month behind so it will be whatever works while we play catch up.
How is that different than a typical reward chart, though?
I don't use those either.
Well yeah, you have middle schoolers. Totally different can of worms. I thought about using personal ones, like putting stickers on an index card on their desk, but it just wouldn't be practical right off the bat. I think that's what I will switch to second term.
But like, for example, one of my students has spent more days in iss than in the classroom this year. There are serious behavior problems. They need the visuals.
stenobook, lol. Don't get me started on extra credit
Haha. That's about the only form of extra credit I give. You don't do the work, too bad for you. I'm not grading extra because you didn't do it the first time. But everyone has off days and a few points here and there is no big deal. I didn't use it that way everyday.
Well yeah, you have middle schoolers. Totally different can of worms. I thought about using personal ones, like putting stickers on an index card on their desk, but it just wouldn't be practical right off the bat. I think that's what I will switch to second term.
But like, for example, one of my students has spent more days in iss than in the classroom this year. There are serious behavior problems. They need the visuals.
I have a ton of behavior problems too, and the immediacy of class dojo plus having a visual reminder seemed to work for some of them. I didn't really do negatives though. And I didn't use it all year or every day, but I have middle schoolers.
Are behavior charts new? I swear I don't remember them when I was growing up.
I remember colors growing up. Like move your clip to yellow. So no not new.
It's very possible they were around and I just don't remember. I mean, I barely remember what I had for breakfast. I get that some kids need that motivation but I'm just not sure that I'm a fan. I especially don't like the idea of it being so public.
Oh well. I'm sure it's another thing that is a bigger deal to the parents than kids.