HR work question bc I'm nosy

[Deleted]

Huh. My company doesn't fire on Fridays.

They only doing them mid-week. Tues-thurs. I get Friday's but why not Monday's?

[kaybee85]

The only thing I don't get is the wording that it is 'in her best interest' to be there...if she's getting fired, wtf does it matter if she shows?

[livinitup]

She's not going to show up on Friday, because it's her "day off".

I hope you post what happens next.

[cuddlyevil]

She's getting shit canned or they discovered the "got a new job, but tee hee no one will know until after layoffs" plan.

[ECB]

So, on the layoff front, the way the company I used to work did it - if you were laid off, you got severance.  If they offered you another position, if you turned it down, oh well.  No severance. 

Maybe your company is doing it differently.  But if not, her 'plan' may backfire on her. 

But also - I 'm not sure why, if they are doing layoffs, they'd keep the person who is on probation over other employees who are better employees. 

  

[Kristinmo]

She's already on a plan and they're doing layoffs? Yeah, she has no chance. My company did layoffs and low performers were the first to go.

[whiskeyandwine]

Oct 7, 2015 5:47:45 GMT -5 cuddlyevil said:

She's getting shit canned or they discovered the "got a new job, but tee hee no one will know until after layoffs" plan.

Seriously no "tee hee" about it. If I had a new job lined up you better believe I'd try to get laid off, collect my severance, and then start a new job. This is business, and it sounds like maybe the one smart decision this woman has made.

[Deleted]

Yeah she is getting let go either way and I doubt she is "getting a package".

[prettyinpearls]

Oct 7, 2015 7:16:59 GMT -5 tarzanswife said:

Yeah she is getting let go either way and I doubt she is "getting a package".

This is what I was going to say. There's a difference between being laid off and being fired. Fired = no package. I HIGHLY doubt she'd be laid off instead of just being fired since she was a on PIP.

I can't wait to hear how this unfolds.

[Deleted]

I won't know until Monday what went down. This Friday is my work Friday, but I'm leaving at noon for a dentist appt.

[iammalcolmx]

Oct 7, 2015 7:52:56 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

I won't know until Monday what went down. This Friday is my work Friday, but I'm leaving at noon for a dentist appt.

You mean you won't receive a text message from someone in the office? That's what happens around here.

[ECB]

Oct 7, 2015 7:52:56 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

I won't know until Monday what went down. This Friday is my work Friday, but I'm leaving at noon for a dentist appt.

RESCHEDULE!!!!!!  YOU MUST BE THERE!!!!  

[Deleted]

Oct 7, 2015 6:17:14 GMT -5 ECB said:

So, on the layoff front, the way the company I used to work did it - if you were laid off, you got severance.  If they offered you another position, if you turned it down, oh well.  No severance. 

Maybe your company is doing it differently.  But if not, her 'plan' may backfire on her. 

But also - I 'm not sure why, if they are doing layoffs, they'd keep the person who is on probation over other employees who are better employees. 

  

The way it's working here is since they're relocating, if you're offered a position in the new office and you don't accept it bc you don't want to move you'll still get the package.

[ECB]

Oct 7, 2015 7:54:11 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

Oct 7, 2015 6:17:14 GMT -5 ECB said:

So, on the layoff front, the way the company I used to work did it - if you were laid off, you got severance.  If they offered you another position, if you turned it down, oh well.  No severance. 

Maybe your company is doing it differently.  But if not, her 'plan' may backfire on her. 

But also - I 'm not sure why, if they are doing layoffs, they'd keep the person who is on probation over other employees who are better employees. 

  

The way it's working here is since they're relocating, if you're offered a position in the new office and you don't accept it bc you don't want to move you'll still get the package.

Ah, gotcha.  So she assumes she's being offered a position and she's going to SHOW THEM and say "no"?  LOL.

As they are making a point to bring her in NOW and layoffs are next month (right?), I would assume they want to get rid of her now vs waiting for the true layoff period. 

She seems to not be based in reality.  The fact that she's trying to draw out her probation, the fact that she's saying "it's my day off, can we reschedule"....  oy.  If this meeting goes the way WE all think it will, she's in for a big shock. 

[sassycat]

You are making us wait until Monday?? Oh no whatever are we going to do. I am way too invested in this post. lol

[just]

Oct 7, 2015 7:52:56 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

I won't know until Monday what went down. This Friday is my work Friday, but I'm leaving at noon for a dentist appt.

It's in your/our best interests for you to be there.

[cep1976]

Oct 7, 2015 6:26:36 GMT -5 whiskeyandwine said:

Oct 7, 2015 5:47:45 GMT -5 cuddlyevil said:

She's getting shit canned or they discovered the "got a new job, but tee hee no one will know until after layoffs" plan.

Seriously no "tee hee" about it. If I had a new job lined up you better believe I'd try to get laid off, collect my severance, and then start a new job. This is business, and it sounds like maybe the one smart decision this woman has made.

Yeah, I tried to do this once. Returned from maternity leave to an abusive new boss who had started in my absence, started looking for a new job within a week of returning because it was clear that this wasn't going to be a good situation for me, new boss started actively trying to force me out, got a new job offer at the same time that they said they'd give me severance if I left, so I asked for the severance offer before telling them that I had a new job. 

Ultimately, it didn't work out for me because the severance offer was written that you only received the money in the absence of another position. But, they made the offer of severance. If they're going to extend the offer, and it works out, it's stupid not to take it. For some ridiculous moral high ground? Who turns down free money?

I was put through a lot of terrible abuse at that job. I definitely earned that severance, even though I ultimately couldn't take it.

[Deleted]

Oct 7, 2015 7:57:00 GMT -5 ECB said:

Oct 7, 2015 7:54:11 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

The way it's working here is since they're relocating, if you're offered a position in the new office and you don't accept it bc you don't want to move you'll still get the package.

Ah, gotcha.  So she assumes she's being offered a position and she's going to SHOW THEM and say "no"?  LOL.

As they are making a point to bring her in NOW and layoffs are next month (right?), I would assume they want to get rid of her now vs waiting for the true layoff period. 

She seems to not be based in reality.  The fact that she's trying to draw out her probation, the fact that she's saying "it's my day off, can we reschedule"....  oy.  If this meeting goes the way WE all think it will, she's in for a big shock. 

The layoffs are starting on the 15th of this month and will be done by the end of Oct.

So maybe they're trying to get this done before she's officially in the layoff pool window?

[Deleted]

Oct 7, 2015 7:54:18 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

Oct 7, 2015 7:52:56 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

I won't know until Monday what went down. This Friday is my work Friday, but I'm leaving at noon for a dentist appt.

You mean you won't receive a text message from someone in the office? That's what happens around here.

Maybe, but there will hardly be anyone there from 3-4 on a Friday. 3 is when most people leave.

[Deleted]

Oct 6, 2015 20:21:39 GMT -5 Queen Dick, Hibernating Bear said:

She's about to get shit canned for being a horrible employee. She should be grovelling not insisting on her day off. She hasn't a right to it.

So much this.

If she's been on a PIP since June, she's being let go. They may give her the option to voluntarily separate versus being let go, but it's hardly relevant if it's her "day off".

[ECB]

Oct 7, 2015 8:24:12 GMT -5 @bettyhomewrecker said:

Oct 7, 2015 7:54:18 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

You mean you won't receive a text message from someone in the office? That's what happens around here.

Maybe, but there will hardly be anyone there from 3-4 on a Friday. 3 is when most people leave.

Yup.  Between this and the layoffs starting on the 15th, I suspect they are firing her. 

[fryjack2]

Oct 6, 2015 20:24:45 GMT -5 thebreakfastclub said:

My company fired/reorganized at least once a year, and people were generally let go on Friday mornings.

Then again, my boss and I were fired on a Monday morning.

My CW's H was a Sr VP there, and he had to fire half his staff on a Wednesday, and that evening he got an email for an 8am meeting the next day, for his firing.

Ouch.

[captainobvious]

Ugh, I hate terming people at the end of the work day on a Friday. It's the worst.

That being said, she's probably getting her package, especially if they're making her come in on a day off.

[mcsangel2]

Oct 6, 2015 23:20:32 GMT -5 kaybee85 said:

The only thing I don't get is the wording that it is 'in her best interest' to be there...if she's getting fired, wtf does it matter if she shows?

So that she can collect her last paycheck.

[Deleted]

Ok, so this morning she got here at 8:45 (she's supposed to be in at 7 to do a morning report for our VP that needs by 8)

Left TEN MINUTES later saying she had to run back to her place in town to get PIP review paperwork that HR told her they need today. Said she'd be gone for thirty minutes.

[ECB]

Oh, to be a fly on the wall on Friday. I just so want to see the shock on her face when she's fired w/ no severance.

[BirdGirl]

She's getting fired. I'm shocked she has a Friday off schedule on a PIP. PIP here would mean you would lose any special scheduling privileges.

[kaybee85]

Oct 7, 2015 9:04:39 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Oct 6, 2015 23:20:32 GMT -5 kaybee85 said:

The only thing I don't get is the wording that it is 'in her best interest' to be there...if she's getting fired, wtf does it matter if she shows?

So that she can collect her last paycheck.

Can they withhold it if she came later? I'm so dumb about this stuff lol.

[pagas]

She has some balls.

[trafficgirl]

I cannot wait to find out how shit goes down.