Negative associations with the name Mkayla of special spelling are probably more likely to be of the poor white variety anyway. I know tons of little white girls named Mykayla and they're all from blond haired blue eyed working class families. I'm it sure I've ever met a black woman named Mkaela and I've known a lot of people with that name.
But I'm not from any part of Detroit so maybe I'm missing something.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
When my niece was born we ALL side eyed the hell out of her name bc it sounded like something from the inner inner part of Detriot - MaKaylah. Our fear being that 20 years from now her resume will find itself in the round file over something as ridiculous as a name. The perception of her being a black woman vs the blonde blue eyed woman she actually is.
I get that you are saying that you think it is wrong to dismiss someone's potential because of a name, particularly as it is perceived to be associated with race. But you HAVE to see that the WAY you told this story and the language you used is offensive. You implied that the "inner inner" part of Detroit is populated with people who are not as worthy as a blond blue eyed woman, you implied the name itself is worthy of scorn, and you insinuated that MaKaylah deserves the privilege she will otherwise enjoy AS a blond blue eyed woman.
When my niece was born we ALL side eyed the hell out of her name bc it sounded like something from the inner inner part of Detriot - MaKaylah. Our fear being that 20 years from now her resume will find itself in the round file over something as ridiculous as a name. The perception of her being a black woman vs the blonde blue eyed woman she actually is.
I get that you are saying that you think it is wrong to dismiss someone's potential because of a name, particularly as it is perceived to be associated with race. But you HAVE to see that the WAY you told this story and the language you used is offensive. You implied that the "inner inner" part of Detroit is populated with people who are not as worthy as a blond blue eyed woman, you implied the name itself is worthy of scorn, and you insinuated that MaKaylah deserves the privilege she will otherwise enjoy AS a blond blue eyed woman.
yes .. that the point i was trying to make .. it didn't come out the best way.
if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
I get that you are saying that you think it is wrong to dismiss someone's potential because of a name, particularly as it is perceived to be associated with race. But you HAVE to see that the WAY you told this story and the language you used is offensive. You implied that the "inner inner" part of Detroit is populated with people who are not as worthy as a blond blue eyed woman, you implied the name itself is worthy of scorn, and you insinuated that MaKaylah deserves the privilege she will otherwise enjoy AS a blond blue eyed woman.
yes .. that the point i was trying to make .. it didn't come out the best way.
if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
I understand what you're saying.
you and your family were/are concerned about the potential bias your niece may experience in the hiring process based on her name.
I get that you are saying that you think it is wrong to dismiss someone's potential because of a name, particularly as it is perceived to be associated with race. But you HAVE to see that the WAY you told this story and the language you used is offensive. You implied that the "inner inner" part of Detroit is populated with people who are not as worthy as a blond blue eyed woman, you implied the name itself is worthy of scorn, and you insinuated that MaKaylah deserves the privilege she will otherwise enjoy AS a blond blue eyed woman.
yes .. that the point i was trying to make .. it didn't come out the best way.
if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
yes .. that the point i was trying to make .. it didn't come out the best way.
 if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
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I'm gonna need a minute to pick my jaw up off the floor.
Negative associations with the name Mkayla of special spelling are probably more likely to be of the poor white variety anyway. I know tons of little white girls named Mykayla and they're all from blond haired blue eyed working class families. I'm it sure I've ever met a black woman named Mkaela and I've known a lot of people with that name.
But I'm not from any part of Detroit so maybe I'm missing something.
This. All of the unique Makayla spellings I've seen, were little white girls.
you and your family were/are concerned about the potential bias your niece may experience in the hiring process based on her name.
The above us how you should have worded it. The extra about her whiteness is unnecessary. It gives the impression that if she were was black with that spelling she deserved the lack of job opportunities. Clearly you see that, right?
This. What should have been said, is that I and my family have seen discriminatory hiring practices based on names alone, and are/were concerned with people's preconceived notions about a "black name" or uniquely spelled name.
Inherently, there's nothing wrong with that, as many POC on here have said they specifically named their children something that doesn't get their name thrown in the no pile, but the wording and intent count, and the wrong words and intent were chosen.
Negative associations with the name Mkayla of special spelling are probably more likely to be of the poor white variety anyway. I know tons of little white girls named Mykayla and they're all from blond haired blue eyed working class families. I'm it sure I've ever met a black woman named Mkaela and I've known a lot of people with that name.
But I'm not from any part of Detroit so maybe I'm missing something.
This. All of the unique Makayla spellings I've seen, were little white girls.
Yeah. It's the name white people moved onto after they got bored with Kaelyn/Caelyn/Kaylinn.
I really just can't with this, but isn't McKayla that stupid sneering gymnast?
ETA: I guess I can (with a least one thing) - does "teaching and preaching" sound as condescending as I think it does?
If I remember correctly, pinkdutchtulips' father is a preacher, so I just assumed from what she wrote, that her mother was a teacher. I think it was just literal.
That part is one of the few things not making my jaw drop. This is like really a time to check your privilege and think about your words and the meaning they impart, because so many things written were really crazy and also, insulting.
I really just can't with this, but isn't McKayla that stupid sneering gymnast?
ETA: I guess I can (with a least one thing) - does "teaching and preaching" sound as condescending as I think it does?
If I remember correctly, pinkdutchtulips' father is a preacher, so I just assumed from what she wrote, that her mother was a teacher. I think it was just literal.
That part is one of the few things not making my jaw drop. This is like really a time to check your privilege and think about your words and the meaning they impart, because so many things written were really crazy and also, insulting.
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley
I really just can't with this, but isn't McKayla that stupid sneering gymnast?
ETA: I guess I can (with a least one thing) - does "teaching and preaching" sound as condescending as I think it does?
If I remember correctly, pinkdutchtulips' father is a preacher, so I just assumed from what she wrote, that her mother was a teacher. I think it was just literal.
That part is one of the few things not making my jaw drop. This is like really a time to check your privilege and think about your words and the meaning they impart, because so many things written were really crazy and also, insulting.
is it ' rip apart everything i say' day today ?!? there is nothing condescending about using the phrase teaching and preaching when i am literally explaining what my parents did for a living until they retired. its very common, at least in Lutheran clergy circles, for ministry students to marry education students.
my privilege has been checked ...... trust me ....
If I remember correctly, pinkdutchtulips' father is a preacher, so I just assumed from what she wrote, that her mother was a teacher. I think it was just literal.
That part is one of the few things not making my jaw drop. This is like really a time to check your privilege and think about your words and the meaning they impart, because so many things written were really crazy and also, insulting.
is it ' rip apart everything i say' day today ?!? there is nothing condescending about using the phrase teaching and preaching when i am literally explaining what my parents did for a living until they retired. its very common, at least in Lutheran clergy circles, for ministry students to marry education students.
my privilege has been checked ...... trust me ....
I'm sorry if I was wrong on that point. Really, no disrespect meant to your parents' vocations.
is it ' rip apart everything i say' day today ?!? there is nothing condescending about using the phrase teaching and preaching when i am literally explaining what my parents did for a living until they retired. its very common, at least in Lutheran clergy circles, for ministry students to marry education students.
my privilege has been checked ...... trust me ....
I'm sorry if I was wrong on that point. Really, no disrespect meant to your parents' vocations.
if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
if someone from the inner city of detroit can make it, more power to them ! the name in and off itself isn't worthy of scorn but the unique spelling raised everyone's eyebrows (how many times on these boards have names w/ unnecessary capital letters and apostrophe's been mocked ?!?)
"Not gonna lie; I kind of keep expecting you to post one day that you threw down on someone who clearly had no idea that today was NOT THEIR DAY." ~dontcallmeshirley