Pretty sure I bleed crisco

[pegasuskat]

At the time I was walking around with 3 blockages of over 90% each, I was 32 - didn't drink, smoke and was very small and was a woman - thats all the reason's my first dr. didn't do any other testing, said I had no other risks. I have a huge scar on my chest and 6 stents that have been placed in the 16 years since then to prove that's all crap. Nothing but the high numbers and my arteries still blocked. My 28 year old cousin dropped dead, so the no other risk factors is crap.

[mich1]

Lifestyle changes can only account for about 10% of cholesterol levels. The balance is made in your liver, which you have very little control over.  Genetics has a lot to do with this, if your parents have high cholesterol, there is a good chance you will too.  Jim Fixx was a marathon runner and granted he had a very unhealthy lifestyle before he started running, his had a genetic component to it and he recognized it.  Even though he had some tremendous lifestyle changes, it bought him a couple years (from how old his dad was when he died) and he still died young.  

Believe me, I know where you are coming from.  I argued with my doctor about this for about 3 years, but  I'm currently on lipitor now to control mine.  For a long time, I was trying to control it with diet and exercise but it reached a point where regardless of what I did, it still kept climbing.  My dad also had issues with both cholesterol and blood pressure so I have a double whammy.

Since your levels are way over 10%, you might want to give this some serious thought.

[jigsy]

We don't know the long term effects of most things. But a pretty standard outcome of long-term high cholesterol is heart attack/stroke. Seems like you are worried about a maybe, when you should be worried about the probably.

I don't think you are as flip about this in real life as you are on here...but you still seem a little less concerned than you should be.

[gretchenindisguise]

There is something to be said about being skeptical of the statins based on the lack of research, but the thing people are reacting to in this post is the glibness. I bleed Crisco, but won't take meds!

If there was mention of other things you were going to try, asking for others experiences/knowledge, acknowledgment that that high of cholesterol is dangerous - you wouldn't have gotten the reactions you've gotten here.

[mcsangel2]

Honestly, with levels that high for that long, given your age, I would push for more testing to see if you have blockages.

[gretchenindisguise]

Feb 11, 2016 15:45:56 GMT -5 @32flavors said:

Feb 11, 2016 15:42:21 GMT -5 gretchenindisguise said:

There is something to be said about being skeptical of the statins based on the lack of research, but the thing people are reacting to in this post is the glibness. I bleed Crisco, but won't take meds!

If there was mention of other things you were going to try, asking for others experiences/knowledge, acknowledgment that that high of cholesterol is dangerous - you wouldn't have gotten the reactions you've gotten here.

Because I really wasn't taking it that seriously. I've had it so long it seems like normal for me. I have no family history but I have to assume it's inherited. 

You guys knocked some sense in to me. I called my doc and she's calling in the meds. 

[stella1802]

Wow, that is really high! Take the medicine, if not for you, for your family.

[dexteroni]

Feb 11, 2016 15:38:57 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Lifestyle changes can only account for about 10% of cholesterol levels.

This is good to know. Do you have a link? I googled but didn't find anything. I have a friend who kind needs to read this from an approved medical source.

[aprilsails]

Feb 11, 2016 15:20:55 GMT -5 redredwine said:

My dad has been on statins for like, as long as I can remember. It's actually heriditary, he's always been healthy (with the exception of alcohol)
SO, 20 - 30 years on the drugs? It's kept him alive...so there's that.

Same here. My Dad started on statins when he was 22 and playing provincial tier competitive hockey (one level down from the NHL). So my Dad has 35 years on statins with no apparent ill health effects, and while he is male, he has never been overweight or unhealthy. At my Dads current age his father was on his 3rd heart attack.

[pegasuskat]

Feb 11, 2016 15:47:53 GMT -5 mcsangel2 said:

Honestly, with levels that high for that long, given your age, I would push for more testing to see if you have blockages.

This XXXX10,000

[ginger]

Glad you called @32flavors!

[jigsy]

ML - Saving lives.

[WOUNDTIGHT]

. . Do you like being flamed? Honest question. Is any attention better than no attention? Not sure what you want from this. It's such a strange thing to brag about.

"Hey guys, I have a serious health issue (and a kid) and aren't going to take the recommended medicine! Even though it was suggested by a doctor!"

Edit: I see you changed your tune (that was quick!) but still- weird that internet strangers convinced you to take your doctor prescribed medicine.

[laladypoet]

Feb 11, 2016 13:58:09 GMT -5 thinkofthesoldiers said:

You sound like those idiot anti-vax people.

you sound cool.

[beefjerky]

What was your HDL?

[sparkythelawyer]

I also have stupid high cholesterol. My doctor didn't go the statin route because it is apparently linked to some birth defects so he tries to avoid prescribing it to women of childbearing age

[thinkofthesoldiers]

Feb 11, 2016 17:44:31 GMT -5 laladypoet said:

Feb 11, 2016 13:58:09 GMT -5 thinkofthesoldiers said:

You sound like those idiot anti-vax people.

you sound cool.

Lol so are you anti vax...and therefore an idiot?

[Kristinmo]

Feb 11, 2016 18:12:26 GMT -5 beefjerky said:

What was your HDL?

Isn't it the difference between total and ldl? She gave both of those in the OP

[muffin0]

Feb 11, 2016 18:54:11 GMT -5 thinkofthesoldiers said:

Feb 11, 2016 17:44:31 GMT -5 laladypoet said:

you sound cool.

Lol so are you anti vax...and therefore an idiot?

::giggle::

[muffin0]

I didn't respond earlier but I'm really glad you called!

And for reminding me to get off my ass to make an appointment to get all the things tested.

[mich1]

Feb 11, 2016 15:50:39 GMT -5 dexteroni said:

Feb 11, 2016 15:38:57 GMT -5 mich1 said:

Lifestyle changes can only account for about 10% of cholesterol levels.

This is good to know. Do you have a link? I googled but didn't find anything. I have a friend who kind needs to read this from an approved medical source.

Here's one link, it says about 15%.

health.howstuffworks.com/diseases-conditions/cardiovascular/cholesterol/cholesterol2.htm

About 85 percent of your blood cholesterol level is endogenous, which means it is produced by your body. The other 15 percent or so comes from an external source -- your diet. Your dietary cholesterol originates from meat, poultry, fish, seafood and dairy products. It's possible for some people to eat foods high in cholesterol and still have low blood cholesterol levels. Likewise, it's possible to eat foods low in cholesterol and have a high blood cholesterol level.

Here is a meta analysis that shows that a low fat diet can decrease lipid levels 5%.

ajcn.nutrition.org/content/65/6/1747?cited-by=yes&legid=ajcn;65/6/1747

Predictions indicated that compliance with current dietary recommendations (30% of energy from fat, < 10% from saturated fat, and < 300 mg cholesterol/d) will reduce plasma total and low-density-lipoprotein-cholesterol concentrations by approximately 5% compared with amounts associated with the average American diet.

[dexteroni]

mich1 excellent. Thank you!

[laladypoet]

Feb 11, 2016 18:54:11 GMT -5 thinkofthesoldiers said:

Feb 11, 2016 17:44:31 GMT -5 laladypoet said:

you sound cool.

Lol so are you anti vax...and therefore an idiot?

Haha wut? No. I just think you're superb.

SUPERB.

[madringal]

Are you on birth control? When I'm on it my total cholesterol is > 300. When I'm off it it is perfectly normal. We are done having kids so H is getting a vasectomy so that I don't have to go back on it. The high cholesterol really scares me.

[bab]

You can't possibly have done more research than the physician making this recommendation for you...I think you should reconsider. Especially with those numbers

[FormerlyRR]

Feb 11, 2016 18:48:41 GMT -5 jenny1980 said:

Feb 11, 2016 16:03:37 GMT -5 WOUNDTIGHT said:

. . Do you like being flamed? Honest question. Is any attention better than no attention? Not sure what you want from this. It's such a strange thing to brag about.
"Hey guys, I have a serious health issue (and a kid) and aren't going to take the recommended medicine! Even though it was suggested by a doctor!"

Edit: I see you changed your tune (that was quick!) but still- weird that internet strangers convinced you to take your doctor prescribed medicine.

ML: We will help you, but we will make you feel like shit while doing it. Because we care. 

So, totally random comment. I remember when you were a MM person (and miso, too) and came over here. I like that you say "we" about ML.