Scalia dead?

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rjamz Have you heard this?

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/antonin-scalia-dead_us_56bfa5f7e4b0b40245c6f0d9

Reports are Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia passed away.

[rjamz]

I JUST HEARD. OH MY GOD!

[vthokie]

Oh crap!

[honeybee503]

Yes, they are discussing it on MSNBC right now.

[The Foozzler]

I hate to celebrate when someone dies, but...

[The Foozzler]

Ah, I am so happy Obama gets to nominate someone! I can't wait to see who he picks!

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Feb 13, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5 The Foozzler said:

Ah, I am so happy Obama gets to nominate someone! I can't wait to see who he picks!

Is there a chance Congress won't approve anyone he nominates? What happens then?

[rjamz]

Feb 13, 2016 17:31:57 GMT -5 @lindy said:

Feb 13, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5 The Foozzler said:

Ah, I am so happy Obama gets to nominate someone! I can't wait to see who he picks!

Is there a chance Congress won't approve anyone he nominates? What happens then?

It goes to the next president. There's a real chance that will happen

[rjamz]

Feb 13, 2016 17:35:59 GMT -5 jamaicam said:

Feb 13, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5 The Foozzler said:

Ah, I am so happy Obama gets to nominate someone! I can't wait to see who he picks!

CEP are (of course!) discussing this. They don't seem to think he'll be able to get anyone through

It does seem rather unlikely unless he picks someone very moderate just to get it through.

[mumegs]

It's like a whole year before his term is up they can't stall for that long can they?? I guess they probably can.

[The Foozzler]

If they can manage to stall for a whole year, that makes this upcoming election even more important. The thought of that stresses me out about it even more.

[rjamz]

But Rachel Maddow thinks that if he can choose someone who has already been "vetted" - like at a cabinet level - that congress could let it through

[imimahoney]

Realistically Obama won't get anyone through but can't say I'm sad to see him dead.

And now maybe people will realize how important this election is regarding the supreme court.

[PatBenatar]

My cousin just posted this on fb. My first thought was to be glad that Obama was still in office. I didn't know he might not be able to appoint someone ugh

[rjamz]

I want to say something to those who are "glad" he's dead.

He was not an "evil" human being - it's such a shallow understanding of who he was. He was father to 9 children, he had a wife, he was a person. He wasn't a murderer or a child rapist. He was a conservative Supreme Court justice with a brilliant legal mind who, by all accounts, was a really good guy. I've always had a deep seated respect for the man.

And P.S. He was one of the greatest supporters of free speech and prisoners rights.

[thedahliharpa]

Not good. Im really going to need the brothers and sisters of the revolution and "her" Democrats to come together by the time the general comes around.

[vthokie]

My immediate thought is that of course they won't approve anyone that Obama tries to appoint. They'll fight him on anything just on...let's say, principle.
But, they need to be smart about it. Yes, it's possible that the republicans win the White House and get their own appointment.
But, it's also possible that they DON'T win the White House AND that they aren't the legislative majority anymore. Then, they lose some of their leverage and risk having a more liberal addition to the SCOTUS.
IMO, the republicans would be more likely to "win" if they would approve a moderate appointee from Obama. And I think he is more than aware of how careful he needs to be with who he chooses.

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Feb 13, 2016 18:39:43 GMT -5 vthokie said:

My immediate thought is that of course they won't approve anyone that Obama tries to appoint. They'll fight him on anything just on...let's say, principle.
But, they need to be smart about it. Yes, it's possible that the republicans win the White House and get their own appointment.
But, it's also possible that they DON'T win the White House AND that they aren't the legislative majority anymore. Then, they lose some of their leverage and risk having a more liberal addition to the SCOTUS.
IMO, the republicans would be more likely to "win" if they would approve a moderate appointee from Obama. And I think he is more than aware of how careful he needs to be with who he chooses.

Interesting points. I do hope he chooses a moderate and is able to get someone appointed. I think it's important to keep the Supreme Court full if all possible.

[silverjm]

My condolences to his friends and family.

I am very scared of what this means for the election.

[imimahoney]

It's already being use as a political issue. This is going to throw everything on its head.

And I didn't mean I was glad to see him dead, I'm just not sad he's dead. It is sad he died, he will be missed by many people who loved him dearly. I just feel no emotional connection to him.

[The Foozzler]

I have nothing against him as a person. He just planned to continue to be 1/9 of the most important group in our country until he died. And during his tenure, he made many decisions that went against things I am fundamentally in favor of. His absence from the court will not be missed by me. I am hopeful about a more moderate or possible liberal replacement.

[vthokie]

www.addictinginfo.org/2016/02/13/before-scalias-body-is-even-cold-republicans-vow-to-obstruct-any-obama-nominee/

[lolaburns]

Feb 13, 2016 18:03:04 GMT -5 rjamz said:

I want to say something to those who are "glad" he's dead.

He was not an "evil" human being - it's such a shallow understanding of who he was. He was father to 9 children, he had a wife, he was a person. He wasn't a murderer or a child rapist. He was a conservative Supreme Court justice with a brilliant legal mind who, by all accounts, was a really good guy. I've always had a deep seated respect for the man.

And P.S. He was one of the greatest supporters of free speech and prisoners rights.

This.

I am very shocked reading some of these comments.

Frankly, I am disgusted and appalled.

I disagree with many of you politically, but I would NEVER not be sad at the death of another human being due to interpretation of the Constitution or political views. Think about your words and I think you also need to look inside your hearts.

[Deleted]

I did not post this to say I was glad he is dead. I hope it wasn't taken that way...
I only see a single comment that seems to imply they are glad but maybe I'm not reading others right.

[rjamz]

Feb 13, 2016 20:55:38 GMT -5 @lindy said:

I did not post this to say I was glad he is dead. I hope it wasn't taken that way...
I only see a single comment that seems to imply they are glad but maybe I'm not reading others right.

I definitely didn't take your post that way

[thedahliharpa]

Feb 13, 2016 20:55:38 GMT -5 @lindy said:

I did not post this to say I was glad he is dead. I hope it wasn't taken that way...
I only see a single comment that seems to imply they are glad but maybe I'm not reading others right.

One comment is all it takes to ensure a good liberal scolding with a healthy dose of "I'm a better person than you". Extreme eye rolls at the dramatics.

[lolaburns]

Feb 13, 2016 21:08:57 GMT -5 thedahliharpa said:

Feb 13, 2016 20:55:38 GMT -5 @lindy said:

I did not post this to say I was glad he is dead. I hope it wasn't taken that way...
I only see a single comment that seems to imply they are glad but maybe I'm not reading others right.

One comment is all it takes to ensure a good liberal scolding with a healthy dose of "I'm a better person than you". Extreme eye rolls at the dramatics.

Is this directed towards me? This isn't drama.This isn't holier than thou. This is about people. This is about seeing each other.

Imagine this thread was about Ginsberg or God forbid president Obama. Imagine. I would hope you would be horrified.

[thedahliharpa]

Feb 13, 2016 21:27:21 GMT -5 lolaburns said:

Feb 13, 2016 21:08:57 GMT -5 thedahliharpa said:

One comment is all it takes to ensure a good liberal scolding with a healthy dose of "I'm a better person than you". Extreme eye rolls at the dramatics.

This isn't drama.This isn't holier than thou. .

This is exactly how it read and it eclipsed your point.

[The Foozzler]

Of course it is always sad when a human dies and leaves behind family and friends. I don't think anyone here feels otherwise.

But it is also true that his life is linked to his job. A job that he was appointed to for as long as he wanted it. Until he died.

[Dorothy Zbornak]

There are definitely some people in the political world that I would not be sad about if they died.