Day 1 Update: Alright, PTing stuff.

[thebreakfastclub]

I probably have 20 pairs, 2 packs of character ones and a pack of colors and stripes from Garanimals. Those are actually the nicest.

My son pt'd naked from the waist down though. He wore a diaper for naps and overnight for awhile. Pull ups are more expensive so I held off.

[NandaB]

Best of luck to you. Lol

I would also recommend letting her pick out undies herself and make a big deal about how you want to "keep Anna and Elsa dry" or whatever. By evening do you mean between getting home from Daycare and bedtime? I would have her try at least once in there just to get in the routine. Bedtime for sure, but maybe also give it a try when she is washing her hands for dinner? The water may help.

When my son was pting I made a big deal about listening to your body. So I would ask him periodically if he needed to go, but not "make" him because I really wanted him to listen to his body. The only rule is you have to try before bed and before leaving the house.

But what do I know, my 3 year old keeps telling me she will use the potty "maybe tomorrow" lol

[NandaB]

Jun 5, 2016 9:05:27 GMT -5 @starry said:

We didn't do pull ups because my husband was adamant that we do day and night training at the same time. Some of you may recall he woke her up MOTN to pee for two weeks. Lol. But it worked.

Anyway I don't know if there's any advantage to pull ups over diapers. If diapers are cheaper I would just use those, I think.

In my haze of sleep deprivation I can't think of much worse than purposefully waking my children ar night. Like, short of a house fire or burglar those kid better stay asleep in their pee filled pullups and leave mommy alone, lol

[dcn]

unless you want to do laundry all the time get lots. I think we have 20?

We do a pull-up now at night but did diapers until last week. He has finally started to go to the bathroom in the morning himself and couldn't/wouldn't take his diaper off without help from us. So now he will go alone which is awesome.

Good luck!

[NandaB]

Jun 5, 2016 9:13:27 GMT -5 @starry said:

Jun 5, 2016 9:11:35 GMT -5 NandaB said:

In my haze of sleep deprivation I can't think of much worse than purposefully waking my children ar night. Like, short of a house fire or burglar those kid better stay asleep in their pee filled pullups and leave mommy alone, lol

I agree with you but he took full responsibility for it and it worked so I'm not complaining. He would call it a "dream pee" and pick her up at 11:30 PM, put her on the potty, then put her back in the bed and she would barely wake up. I was like WTF is wrong with you but I was happy with the result.

Well there you go, my H sleeps like he's in a coma (do you still snore in a coma?) so I see him trying this exactly never. Lol.

[niq]

We have about 25 pairs of underwear. We make sure there are about 10 at daycare every week. We did the 3 day method 2 weeks ago, he did great at home, but he's averaging at least 1 full-on accident each day at daycare. This week we've had just two daycare accidents, one on the trip home, and another outside the house.

Our crunchy daycare tells people no pullups since it confuses kids on whether it's okay to pee in something that looks like underwear. Just regular diapers for nap/bedtime. Take this advice with a grain of quinoa.

Our pedi recommended this DVD for kids, there's also one with Elmo:
www.amazon.com/Bear-Big-Blue-House-Potty/dp/B0002J4ZKK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465136717&sr=8-1&keywords=potty+time+with+bear

Good luck!

[NandaB]

Jun 5, 2016 9:26:48 GMT -5 niq said:

We have about 25 pairs of underwear. We make sure there are about 10 at daycare every week. We did the 3 day method 2 weeks ago, he did great at home, but he's averaging at least 1 full-on accident each day at daycare. This week we've had just two daycare accidents, one on the trip home, and another outside the house.

Our crunchy daycare tells people no pullups since it confuses kids on whether it's okay to pee in something that looks like underwear. Just regular diapers for nap/bedtime. Take this advice with a grain of quinoa.

Our pedi recommended this DVD for kids, there's also one with Elmo:
www.amazon.com/Bear-Big-Blue-House-Potty/dp/B0002J4ZKK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465136717&sr=8-1&keywords=potty+time+with+bear

Good luck!

I agree with no daytime pullups. But we do use goodnights for bedtime and call them "big kid pullups" because I wanted to make the distinction between diapers, which are worn by babies/little kids who haven't learned how to use the potty yet, and "pullups that sometimes even big kids wear at night just in case because their bodies are still learning"

[chickadee77]

We have a ton of underwear, but honestly, never went through more than 4-5 per day. I leave 4-5 sets at daycare, though, just in case - her one-year-old room didn't have potty built into their schedule, but she starts upper twos tomorrow, and the teacher pretty much said anyone that wasn't already potty trained would be in two weeks. I'll be amazed if she gets 14 kids (15 in the class and L is already trained) trained in two weeks, but at least there will be plenty of potty opportunities!

Good luck - it may not be as bad as you think. If it's being re-enforced at daycare (that was our biggest issue), I bet it will go pretty smoothly!

Oh, we tried pull-ups and were not impressed. We use diapers for nap and bedtime - we just talked about it, and she doesn't have any issue with it. Undies the rest of the time, though. Totally.

[biogirl21]

We have 14 pairs of underwear, but he's naked 90 percent of the time at home. I use s pull-up for nap and overnight huggies for bedtime, so I would buy more if I were you. J still pees a lot at night and usually poops.
He hasn't been in daycare since we trained, but he's pretty good at telling me now when he has to pee when we're out (I HAS TO PEE MOMMY!).
Good luck! I'm sure she'll do great.

[DarcyLongfellow]

We're cold turkey potty training Anna later this week. She turns 3 on Thursday, and we've been brain washing her for weeks about how 3 year olds get to wear BIG GIRL PANTIES!!!!!! and we'll be throwing the diapers in the trash.

We have probably 50 pairs of underwear for her. DD1 took a long, long time to potty train, so we have a million pairs from her. I kept having to buy more.

Just a word of caution, DD1 took about 4 months to poop train. So I spent 4 months washing poppy underwear 2 or 3 times a day. Washing poppy underwear is gross, but not the end of the world. Bleach is your friend.

With DD1 I refused to use pull ups. This time, I'm going to use them when we leave the house. Because I'm not going to hunker down and be house bound for 2 weeks the way I did with DD1.

Also, get a potty for your car. It makes life so much easier.

[broadsheet]

I'm no expert on PT (DD1 trained late and it took forever) but I'd recommend buying cheapo undies now so you don't feel bad about tossing them if you need to.

After daycare/before bed, we set a timer on the microwave for 30 minutes and made her sit on the potty when it went off

My kid has some sensory stuff going on and literally did not recognize the urge to pee so we just had to force her.

[irish]

Our record number of daycare accidents was 8. In one day. I kid you not. I hate laundry.

Make sure you have lots of clothes and not just undies.

Good luck.

[celiacmom]

Did you ask daycare to do this? Or did they initiate? If they initiated and you don't think she's ready I'd ask them not to. Potty training should not be a struggle.

[auntie]

Jun 5, 2016 16:38:36 GMT -5 celiacmom said:

Did you ask daycare to do this? Or did they initiate? If they initiated and you don't think she's ready I'd ask them not to. Potty training should not be a struggle.

This. All of this.

Does she have any of the physical and emotional signs of readiness? Waking dry in the morning or after naps? Does she take off wet diapers? Does she seek privacy (i.e. she knows she's going to go) to poop? Is she upset with being soiled? Does she have the fine motor skills to manage dressing/undressing?

Is this a DCD familiar with PT kids with ASD? Some kids on spectrum PT pretty easily, others take much longer. There's a reason there are a number of books out there specific to the topic.

[MamaMaui24]

Good luck! Hopefully she'll surprise you (after a few days). Our kids sound similar and he PT just fine!

[hermione]

We've never used a pull up. We do use a diaper at night.

We own about 20 pair of undies.

Is daycare going to use a reward at all? C rejected any and all immediate and future rewards including me taking her into Toys R Us and telling her she could choose anything in the store for a potty reward. Her response was, "I no need a potty reward. I never using the potty." M&Ms, stickers and dum dums failed too. Letting her choose a stamp and ink worked even though she chose a giant dog stamp with rainbow ink. She often looked like she had a full sleeve of tattoos by the end of the day.

Good luck!

[broadsheet]

I'd give it another day or two but I would definitely vote not ready.

[DarcyLongfellow]

I don't know if she's not ready -- I mean, call it if you want, but if she can hold it long enough that she only went at nap and bed, I'd say she's probably ready. Can you just give her a ton of fluids so she'll have to go more?

Also -- definitely order the Potty Time with Bear DVD that Niq linked. My ped recommended it too, and it really is magical. Way better than the Elmo one. The Daniel Tiger potty episode is worth watching too -- it's on Netflix.

[djc315]

I'd probably give it another couple days at least. The fact that she can stay dry for so long should hopefully mean that once she goes on the potty, it will click quickly. That was our experience.

ETA: N would hold it for 4-6 hours at a time, and also hated it when I put him in underwear vs a diaper at first.  He was fully PT in a few days, so I say keep at it!

[thebreakfastclub]

I gave my kid so much pop he couldn't hold it more than 90 minutes. That was our kickoff event, lol. It worked though!

[chickens987]

One tip that worked for me (not sure if school will do this) - when I put DD on the potty but she didn't pee right away, I would blow in her face. That made her laugh and relax, and she would pee.

[auntie]

Jun 5, 2016 8:59:53 GMT -5 swizz said:

Update: So they sat her on the potty every 45 minutes or so. She was fine to do that -- but never actually used the potty (note: she's never actually gone in the potty before. She just sits for a minute or so, then "all done!" and hops off). 


Sounds like they're trained. 

She only had one accident (in the late afternoon on the playground), but naptime diaper was wet and her overnight diaper was soaked (and she'd pooped). 


You can't train for night time and naps. That's developmental. When she's physically and neurologically capable, that will happen. Given that she has a neurodevelopmental delay, it could be later for her than most kids. Or not. DS was dry from naps and in the am from the time he was about 2 1/2. 

Hold me.

[thebreakfastclub]

I also agree that naps and overnight have nothing to do with day training. We treated them as 2 separate events and told DS that it's hard to know when you have to pee while you're asleep, so you wear diapers during nap. He was fine with that approach, and his body learned to stay dry on its own.

[jeaniebueller]

I would KOKO until at least the end of the week.

[kershnic]

I'd let them KOKO. Her being able to hold it that long is a good sign of readiness.

The Oh Crap author says not to worry about whether diapers or wet or soiled after naps/overnight if you plan to keep using diapers for those times, so that's what I'm going with. (We started a few weeks ago... one kid is doing awesome, the other is pretty variable).

[broadsheet]

In our case, DD1 had epic bladder control and it actually made PT harder. She was dry overnight before she daytime trained.

[vmars]

I would not give up. She can clearly control her bladder which is a good thing! I wouldn't do diapers at home unless it's nap or bedtime to stay consistent. I would also look for what her sign is that she has to go potty and instead of asking her prompt her to go potty by saying it's time to go potty or I have to go potty do you wanna go first or second?

[djc315]

Jun 7, 2016 9:30:43 GMT -5 swizz said:

Jun 7, 2016 9:12:22 GMT -5 thebreakfastclub said:

I also agree that naps and overnight have nothing to do with day training. We treated them as 2 separate events and told DS that it's hard to know when you have to pee while you're asleep, so you wear diapers during nap. He was fine with that approach, and his body learned to stay dry on its own.

That's what I was thinking, but wasn't sure if her holding it until she's in a diaper was a sign of NOT being ready! I guess if she's soaking a diaper, it's mostly while she's asleep. 

N's been PT for over a year now, and still soaks through a size 6 overnight on a semi-regular basis.  I can count on one hand the number of times he's woken to go to the bathroom (and all but 1 time he's been sick).

[vmars]

Jun 7, 2016 9:44:36 GMT -5 swizz said:

Jun 7, 2016 9:42:08 GMT -5 vmars said:

I would not give up. She can clearly control her bladder which is a good thing! I wouldn't do diapers at home unless it's nap or bedtime to stay consistent. I would also look for what her sign is that she has to go potty and instead of asking her prompt her to go potty by saying it's time to go potty or I have to go potty do you wanna go first or second?

Oh, I am -- I convinced her to put on undies this morning instead of a diaper. She stayed dry in her undies until bed last night, then I changed her into her overnight diaper, and back into undies this morning for school. 

Sounds good! She's still learning so just give it time

[simpsongal]

Can you try to reinforce w/naked time this weekend?