I just had a colleague ask me if I had to show ID at the polls. I said yes, this is the first presidential election in our state since we have had the voter ID law, but its been in place for a few years so we've been showing ID for a few years.
He says something to the extent of, "it seems crazy to me that people can be against reasonable provisions like a voter ID law." And I totally went off on him about how there is no need for voter ID, it disenfranchises people unnecessarily of a constitutional right to vote, etc. And then I just walked away into my office.
I have three weeks left to work here and he annoys me so much. I have been trying to be nice to him, but it's not worth it. GAH.
The one BIG Trump supporter on my FB feed (I'm keeping her on for now- just to see what crap she posts) - she posted about how her DH showed his ID today and when he was told he didn't need to, he said "I know, but I should".
Yeah. This is what I wanted to see, TBH. Please, show me your ass even more!
Post by notsocreepylurker on Nov 8, 2016 8:49:10 GMT -5
I have one on my FB feed - she is in NJ where I am from and we NEVER had to show ID to vote. She is 41 like me so presumably she has voted before. Here was her post on FB:
"I voted...i walked up, gave my name, signed and voted...no ID required. Really? That's totally ridiculous! I just lost all faith in this election."
I have one on my FB feed - she is in NJ where I am from and we NEVER had to show ID to vote. She is 41 like me so presumably she has voted before. Here was her post on FB:
"I voted...i walked up, gave my name, signed and voted...no ID required. Really? That's totally ridiculous! I just lost all faith in this election."
If she just lost faith because they didn't ask for ID, then she has never voted before. GTFO.
In Maryland they ask you for your name, DOB (I think?), address and zip code.
I mean it seems someone could impersonate me if they wanted to, but they would have to memorize a lot of information about a lot of people to make it worthwhile.
I have one on my FB feed - she is in NJ where I am from and we NEVER had to show ID to vote. She is 41 like me so presumably she has voted before. Here was her post on FB:
"I voted...i walked up, gave my name, signed and voted...no ID required. Really? That's totally ridiculous! I just lost all faith in this election."
If she just lost faith because they didn't ask for ID, then she has never voted before. GTFO.
Oklahoma does require ID. Ugh.
She said she's voted before but since she lives in a small town and she knew the people at registration that they didn't ask her for ID because they knew her. <eyeroll>
The comments on her post are hysterical! Someone could keep going back in and voted as DEAD PEOPLE! I could have had ANYONE go and vote for me! You have to show ID to buy cough syrup but not to vote - how ridiculous!
If she just lost faith because they didn't ask for ID, then she has never voted before. GTFO.
Oklahoma does require ID. Ugh.
She said she's voted before but since she lives in a small town and she knew the people at registration that they didn't ask her for ID because they knew her. <eyeroll>
The comments on her post are hysterical! Someone could keep going back in and voted as DEAD PEOPLE! I could have had ANYONE go and vote for me! You have to show ID to buy cough syrup but not to vote - how ridiculous!
Ohhh, so it was fine every other year, but not THIS year. Okay.
She said she's voted before but since she lives in a small town and she knew the people at registration that they didn't ask her for ID because they knew her. <eyeroll>
The comments on her post are hysterical! Someone could keep going back in and voted as DEAD PEOPLE! I could have had ANYONE go and vote for me! You have to show ID to buy cough syrup but not to vote - how ridiculous!
Ohhh, so it was fine every other year, but not THIS year. Okay.
Well she KNEW the people before. No fraud could ever happen when you KNOW people!
In my country, we have to bring our personal invitation to vote and our ID card - which we have to carry at all times since WWI.
This doesn't really disturb me.
I have been president for voting bureaus at least 7 times and we need to verify identity to make sure that everybody votes and that no one votes twice.
We have a legal obligation to vote too. I know this seems weird to foreigners, but I'm really not troubled by this.
I have one on my FB feed - she is in NJ where I am from and we NEVER had to show ID to vote. She is 41 like me so presumably she has voted before. Here was her post on FB:
"I voted...i walked up, gave my name, signed and voted...no ID required. Really? That's totally ridiculous! I just lost all faith in this election."
If she just lost faith because they didn't ask for ID, then she has never voted before. GTFO.
Oklahoma does require ID. Ugh.
In OK, your voter registration card is accepatable. It doesn't have to be a photo id. I believe I've voted twice with the voter Id card simply because it was out first.
If she just lost faith because they didn't ask for ID, then she has never voted before. GTFO.
Oklahoma does require ID. Ugh.
In OK, your voter registration card is accepatable. It doesn't have to be a photo id. I believe I've voted twice with the voter Id card simply because it was out first.
They accept:
•A current Oklahoma driver’s license •A current photo ID issued by Oklahoma, the US government, or a federally recognized tribal government •A military photo ID •A county election board voter ID card
They used to just ask your name and address, I think Voter ID only became required in 2010? The bill actually stated you need "proof of identity" that includes: voter’s name, a picture of the voter, and is issued by the United States, the State of Oklahoma, or a federally recognized Indian Tribe or Nation. However, the law added a caveat that if a person does not have any of those forms of identification, a county issued Voter ID card would be considered valid.
In Maryland they ask you for your name, DOB (I think?), address and zip code.
I mean it seems someone could impersonate me if they wanted to, but they would have to memorize a lot of information about a lot of people to make it worthwhile.
plus they need to know your precinct. I can't even remember that. There's 2 precincts that vote at my polling place. People are always in the wrong line, including me, and have to go to the other line.
In OK, your voter registration card is accepatable. It doesn't have to be a photo id. I believe I've voted twice with the voter Id card simply because it was out first.
They accept:
•A current Oklahoma driver’s license •A current photo ID issued by Oklahoma, the US government, or a federally recognized tribal government •A military photo ID •A county election board voter ID card
They used to just ask your name and address, I think Voter ID only became required in 2010? The bill actually stated you need "proof of identity" that includes: voter’s name, a picture of the voter, and is issued by the United States, the State of Oklahoma, or a federally recognized Indian Tribe or Nation. However, the law added a caveat that if a person does not have any of those forms of identification, a county issued Voter ID card would be considered valid.
This is from the state election board site. Sorry if formatting is wonky, I'm on my phone.
What can I show for proof of identity?
You may show any document issued by the United States, the State of Oklahoma, or a federally recognized tribal government if it includes your name, a photograph of you, and an expiration date that is later than the election in which you are voting. For example, the following documents meet these requirements: Oklahoma driver license Oklahoma Identification Card United States passport United States military identification The law also requires that your name on your proof of identity must match your name in the Precinct Registry There are two alternatives to showing a photo identification described above:
1. You may show the free Voter Identification Card issued by the County Election Board as proof of identity even though it does not include a photograph.
2. You may vote by provisional ballot and prove your identity by signing a sworn affidavit.
Top of Proof of Identity for Voting
Eta: nevermind, I see you said there was a caveat. Sorry, I'm fighting my work Internet while trying to gbcn.
In my country, we have to bring our personal invitation to vote and our ID card - which we have to carry at all times since WWI.
This doesn't really disturb me.
I have been president for voting bureaus at least 7 times and we need to verify identity to make sure that everybody votes and that no one votes twice.
We have a legal obligation to vote too. I know this seems weird to foreigners, but I'm really not troubled by this.
This gives a good overview as to why people have a problem with it:
In OK, your voter registration card is accepatable. It doesn't have to be a photo id. I believe I've voted twice with the voter Id card simply because it was out first.
They accept:
•A current Oklahoma driver’s license •A current photo ID issued by Oklahoma, the US government, or a federally recognized tribal government •A military photo ID •A county election board voter ID card
They used to just ask your name and address, I think Voter ID only became required in 2010? The bill actually stated you need "proof of identity" that includes: voter’s name, a picture of the voter, and is issued by the United States, the State of Oklahoma, or a federally recognized Indian Tribe or Nation. However, the law added a caveat that if a person does not have any of those forms of identification, a county issued Voter ID card would be considered valid.
I have a OK DL, but I conscientiously object and never show it. I just use my voter registration card. I hate that stupid law.
•A current Oklahoma driver’s license •A current photo ID issued by Oklahoma, the US government, or a federally recognized tribal government •A military photo ID •A county election board voter ID card
They used to just ask your name and address, I think Voter ID only became required in 2010? The bill actually stated you need "proof of identity" that includes: voter’s name, a picture of the voter, and is issued by the United States, the State of Oklahoma, or a federally recognized Indian Tribe or Nation. However, the law added a caveat that if a person does not have any of those forms of identification, a county issued Voter ID card would be considered valid.
I have a OK DL, but I conscientiously object and never show it. I just use my voter registration card. I hate that stupid law.
I lost that thing a good 10 years ago. I should probably get a replacement...
Post by L From The D on Nov 8, 2016 11:24:58 GMT -5
I'm in MI and have always had to show ID to vote. I've never known differently and didn't understand until recently why voter ID laws can be unfair (thanks, John Oliver).
I have a OK DL, but I conscientiously object and never show it. I just use my voter registration card. I hate that stupid law.
I lost that thing a good 10 years ago. I should probably get a replacement...
They send me a new one every time I update my registration, and I've moved a lot, so I never have to hang on to one for longer than a year or two. And after the bitch at the polling place in 2012 gave me shit for the address on my DL not matching my registered address, I've made a point to keep it for voting with.
In my country, we have to bring our personal invitation to vote and our ID card - which we have to carry at all times since WWI.
This doesn't really disturb me.
I have been president for voting bureaus at least 7 times and we need to verify identity to make sure that everybody votes and that no one votes twice.
We have a legal obligation to vote too. I know this seems weird to foreigners, but I'm really not troubled by this.
I am glad this works for your country. But here in the US it didn't become a law to show ID until VERY recently and not all states require it. Some of us are damn ripped shit over the stupid ID laws and as you can see, even people who show up WITH proper ID are told they cannot vote.
I lost that thing a good 10 years ago. I should probably get a replacement...
They send me a new one every time I update my registration, and I've moved a lot, so I never have to hang on to one for longer than a year or two. And after the bitch at the polling place in 2012 gave me shit for the address on my DL not matching my registered address, I've made a point to keep it for voting with.
My ID is never the right address and no one has said anything about it. How weird!
I'm in MI and have always had to show ID to vote. I've never known differently and didn't understand until recently why voter ID laws can be unfair (thanks, John Oliver).
I'm also in MI, and have never had to show ID to vote. I wonder if this varies by county or something?
Someone on FB went into a rant about not needing ID to vote but needing it to get the flu shot. I replied if she wanted to rant about a real issue she should address voter suppression. Voter fraud is really a non issue. She didn't respond. Oh well.
I knew you could sign an affidavit and vote if you didn't have an ID, but I thought it was a provisional ballot and not counted with the regular ballots.
According to this from the Secretary of State, those ballots are counted along with the others.
Michigan does have a voter identification requirement at the polls. Voters are asked to present an acceptable photo ID such as a Michigan driver's license or identification card. Please note that voters who do not have an acceptable form of ID or failed to bring it with them to the polls still can vote. They simply sign a brief affidavit stating that they're not in possession of a photo ID. Their ballots are included with all others and counted on Election Day.
The following types of photo ID are acceptable: • Michigan driver's license or state-issued ID card • Driver's license or personal identification card issued by another state • Federal or state government-issued photo identification •U.S. passport •Military ID with photo •Student identification with photo from a high school or accredited institution of higher learning •Tribal identification card with photo
The ID does not need your address.
Also, I couldn't remember when the law went into effect because I know in at least one presidential election I had my ID ready and was told it was not needed. Apparently, it was enacted in 2007.
This is interesting. Shows a color coded map of the US based on how stringent the voter id requirements are. Sorry, I don't know how to embed a picture.
PA requires it, but only the first time you vote in a particular location. We're a purple state, so we half-assing voter disenfranchisement.
I noticed everyone at my polling place had their IDs out today. At first I thought it was only the non-white voters and I thought, "I don't blame them," but it was everyone. I have the woman my name at the front and she seemed frustrated and said, "do you just have an ID so I can see how it's spelled?" I gave her my voter registration card.