Points Shaving on NY Regents (standardized) exams

[Jalapeñomel]

www.pressreader.com/usa/new-york-post/20170625/281479276421646

Thoughts?

[killercupcake]

Hooooo, end of course exams.

I'm curious to see how many of those kids who failed the exam passed the aligned course.

[junieolive]

The math Regents conversion scales kill me. They are not proficient in algebra at that level. Then they get to me in Regents Chemistry, and cannot solve simple equations that are necessary for my course. So I end up teaching basic algebra along with Chemistry. The conversion scale for chem is 50/85 to pass with a 65. The % is still not a 65, but my results look horrendous in comparison. I'm fine with my scale being close to what an actual passing grade is, but my students are not expecting the test to have such a high scale to pass, not are their parents. I know I sound like I'm whining, but it does not help my students to give them a false sense of security.

[junieolive]

Jun 27, 2017 18:11:48 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

Hooooo, end of course exams.

I'm curious to see how many of those kids who failed the exam passed the aligned course.

I will say that most of my students who fail the exam, also fail my course. A few squeak by.

[killercupcake]

Jun 28, 2017 19:26:18 GMT -5 junieolive said:

Jun 27, 2017 18:11:48 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

Hooooo, end of course exams.

I'm curious to see how many of those kids who failed the exam passed the aligned course.

I will say that most of my students who fail the exam, also fail my course. A few squeak by.

We're so hit or miss with ours. We've got a lot of kids who fail the classes but pass the tests with 3 or 4s.

[junieolive]

Jun 28, 2017 19:53:31 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:26:18 GMT -5 junieolive said:

I will say that most of my students who fail the exam, also fail my course. A few squeak by.

We're so hit or miss with ours. We've got a lot of kids who fail the classes but pass the tests with 3 or 4s.

I definitely have kids who do better on the exam than in the course, but that's usually because they fail to hand in labs on time, and rarely prepare for the weekly quizzes. It's mostly laziness in my students when that happens.

[killercupcake]

Jun 28, 2017 20:06:45 GMT -5 junieolive said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:53:31 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

We're so hit or miss with ours. We've got a lot of kids who fail the classes but pass the tests with 3 or 4s.

I definitely have kids who do better on the exam than in the course, but that's usually because they fail to hand in labs on time, and rarely prepare for the weekly quizzes. It's mostly laziness in my students when that happens.

Yup. The missing work is the killer.

[Jalapeñomel]

Jun 28, 2017 19:25:12 GMT -5 junieolive said:

The math Regents conversion scales kill me. They are not proficient in algebra at that level. Then they get to me in Regents Chemistry, and cannot solve simple equations that are necessary for my course. So I end up teaching basic algebra along with Chemistry. The conversion scale for chem is 50/85 to pass with a 65. The % is still not a 65, but my results look horrendous in comparison. I'm fine with my scale being close to what an actual passing grade is, but my students are not expecting the test to have such a high scale to pass, not are their parents. I know I sound like I'm whining, but it does not help my students to give them a false sense of security.

i didn't realize there was another Regents chem teacher on here! I will also be teaching regents Algebra 2 next year, lucky me.

[Jalapeñomel]

Jun 28, 2017 19:53:31 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:26:18 GMT -5 junieolive said:

I will say that most of my students who fail the exam, also fail my course. A few squeak by.

We're so hit or miss with ours. We've got a lot of kids who fail the classes but pass the tests with 3 or 4s.

This has never happened at my school. For the most part, what they get in my class is mirrored on the Regents.

[killercupcake]

Jun 29, 2017 21:12:32 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:53:31 GMT -5 killercupcake said:

We're so hit or miss with ours. We've got a lot of kids who fail the classes but pass the tests with 3 or 4s.

This has never happened at my school. For the most part, what they get in my class is mirrored on the Regents.

I'm in the midst of ripping my kitchen apart, but remind me to come back and tell you what a cluster fuck our EOCs are.

[junieolive]

Jun 29, 2017 21:11:34 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Jun 28, 2017 19:25:12 GMT -5 junieolive said:

The math Regents conversion scales kill me. They are not proficient in algebra at that level. Then they get to me in Regents Chemistry, and cannot solve simple equations that are necessary for my course. So I end up teaching basic algebra along with Chemistry. The conversion scale for chem is 50/85 to pass with a 65. The % is still not a 65, but my results look horrendous in comparison. I'm fine with my scale being close to what an actual passing grade is, but my students are not expecting the test to have such a high scale to pass, not are their parents. I know I sound like I'm whining, but it does not help my students to give them a false sense of security.

i didn't realize there was another Regents chem teacher on here! I will also be teaching regents Algebra 2 next year, lucky me.

Eek! I used to love math, but I know I would be a horrible math teacher. I get frustrated just teaching kids how to substitute values into Chem equations and teaching them how to solve for an unknown. Good luck, Algebra 2 is as much of a bear as Chemistry.