Trump is really trying to get Sessions to resign

[Pom]

Jul 25, 2017 12:53:22 GMT -5 sofamonkey said:

Jul 25, 2017 12:41:57 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Does that mean it never sees the light of day?

There's no way Mueller doesn't have fail safes in place. I don't know what will happen, but I know that like Comey, he's interested in preserving the institution and process, as well as the mounds of evidence.

Who knows what anyone will do with it, but I don't think that his will ever go away for 45. Or his co conspirators.

Someone needs to explain a pathway for this investigation and evidence to keep moving forward despite 45 shitcanning everyone and the GOPs in congress continuing to sit on their hands. Please.

[TamiTaylor]

How long did it take for Republicans to flip on Nixon?

[bex]

Jul 25, 2017 13:34:27 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

How long did it take for Republicans to flip on Nixon?

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

[TamiTaylor]

Jul 25, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -5 bex said:

Jul 25, 2017 13:34:27 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

How long did it take for Republicans to flip on Nixon?

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

Well fuck.

[Deleted]

Jul 25, 2017 13:44:55 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Jul 25, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -5 bex said:

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

Well fuck.

And don't forget that the 93rd Congress was controlled by the opposition party, not the same party as Nixon.

[hopecounts]

Jul 25, 2017 13:44:55 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Jul 25, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -5 bex said:

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

Well fuck.

And not until the tapes came out and denying it became impossible.

[ESF]

Jul 25, 2017 13:44:55 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Jul 25, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -5 bex said:

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

Well fuck.

He didn't resign until 10 months after the Saturday Night Massacre.

Then ten years later, Reagan nominated the guy who actually fired the independent prosecutor to the Supreme Court, and to this day, the GOP is still pissed at the left for not letting them put him there.  

[hopecounts]

Which is why I want Sessions to stay.
Sessions being recused makes firing Mueller harder and messier.
That may or may not stop Trump but it may well slow him down.
It's going to get exponentially harder for the Rs to ignore this once Mueller publishes his report.
Our one hope of the Rs growing spines is his info being so damning and public that it forces their hands.
If Mueller goes the info will be buried by the AG and we won't learn anything.
The Senate and House Rs are going to keep anything g their committees learn quiet on grounds of clearance to keep power.
They don't want to impeach and the only way to make them is for the info of his crimes to be public

[pizzapizza]

My only hope with the complete and utter shit show that is this presidency is that it stays messy ALL THE DAMN TIME. Because the messier it is the harder it is to get shit done. Or at the very least it takes longer for it to happen. Sessions is a racist fuck face and I relish him getting humiliated by Trump.

[bowies]

Trump is still being wishy-washy on what he's going to do at news conference. He's unhappy about recusal and is still thinking over Sessions' fate.

[UMaineTeach]

Jul 25, 2017 15:19:54 GMT -5 bowies said:

Trump is still being wishy-washy on what he's going to do at news conference. He's unhappy about recusal and is still thinking over Sessions' fate.

Because it's all just a reality show to him. Build suspense. Get ratings. Cut to commercial. To Be Continued. Dramatic music. Tune in next week!

[Velar Fricative]

Jul 25, 2017 13:44:55 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Jul 25, 2017 13:36:14 GMT -5 bex said:

years. The Watergate break-in was in 1972, he didn't resign until 1974.

Well fuck.

The only hope I have now though is this 2017 is so very different from the 1970s in terms of media. There were no 24/7 news channels and no Twitter. It will still take a while longer than we want it to (if it happens), but maybe not as long.

[pinkdutchtulips]

Jul 25, 2017 7:48:33 GMT -5 pitta12 said:

if I needed further proof that my xh and DT are one in the same ... he hated me but wouldn't leave bc it was more fun for him to have me as his whipping girl than not. DT and Sessions are no different 😱

[rupertpenny]

Jul 25, 2017 12:41:57 GMT -5 TamiTaylor said:

Jul 25, 2017 10:27:24 GMT -5 bowies said:

I honestly don't know. I assume it gets turned over to the DOJ and archived.

Does that mean it never sees the light of day?

No. Senate records are regularly sent to the Center for Legislative Archives at NARA. Records from 2000 were probably sent over at least 10 years ago. Senate records stay closed for 20 years, so this isn't open yet, but it should exist, be easy for archivists to find, and could be subject to FOIA request. It should definitely not be hard for Mueller to get his hands on it.

[miniroller]

H & I just had a great discussion at the beginning of Rach M: Wouldn't it be amazing to see 45 & Sessions in a cage match?!?
Sessions as Gullom & Drumpf looking for his help/button (b/c he does nothing without a backup). Ah- MTV Celebrity Deathmatch GOLD!

[rjamz]

Jul 25, 2017 7:42:10 GMT -5 bex said:

Jul 25, 2017 7:34:02 GMT -5 KateAggie said:

I hope Sessions is just sitting at his desk, all "nope. Not moving."

Yup, I think Sessions is digging in his heels and is going to make Trump fire him.

I don't want Sessions as AG so I'm not going to lose any sleep if Trump fires him*, but I am finding this whole power play kind of amusing. Trump doesn't WANT to fire him. He wants him to resign and I kind of love that Sessions is just like, NOPE.

*the one thing that makes me worried about sessions being replaced is how it would impact Mueller's investigation.

I'm the same. I'm amused but won't lose any sleep if he goes. But I reluctantly applaud him for digging in his little elf heels (I'm picturing him literally digging in his heels wearing elf shoes with bells on them with a suit and cracking myself up). I hate him as a person and AG. But I like that he's making Trump mad.

[pitta12]

Newt is on NPR right now saying the whole DOJ is anti-45 and the Russia investigation shouldn't be happening at all because it's just a fishing expedition with no evidence. So, I have a feeling bad things are coming if he's sending out Newt.

Also LOL for days that Sessions is part of some left-wing conspiracy.