Post by MrsAxilla on Sept 15, 2012 20:29:43 GMT -5
Assuming they're interested in me, that is. You know, because jobs are so easy to get.
My friend is actually the girl I supervised and mentored at my last job. She suffered the same fate as me about six months later, and we become friends. We both applied to a job that is pretty much my exact job description about six months ago and neither of us heard anything. I am way more qualified.
She said she was called for an interview last week. I have not been called (yet). She said they had an administration change and revised the job description. I checked it out, and what they added makes me even MORE qualified than before.
We both have very niche experience, and this job is exactly what we both did. Except that I supervised her; she did things under my direction and with me approval. I want this job. I'm sure she does, too. We'd both be good (but I'd be better!)
What should I do? Call and mention I saw the revised posting and would like to still be considered? Wait to see if they call me? Help!!
Reapply? I don't know that I'd call if they never called you to begin with...are you overqualified maybe?
No, although maybe they think I cost too much money? It's not an attorney position, although there is a lot of legal/paralegal work. Maybe they don't want an attorney? Or think an attorney is probably not available 6 months later? It's mostly accreditation. They're looking for someone to run their self study, and I've run 4. She assisted me with 1.
All's fair in business? Yeah, it's not sitting right. She knows I applied in the first place, though, and she texted to tell me...surely the thought that I'd call them or something crossed her mind....
Post by basilosaurus on Sept 15, 2012 20:46:49 GMT -5
I'd call. You're not stealing it from the friend. It's up to the employers to make that decision. You need a job, she needs a job. You both got screwed. But that doesn't mean you owe her a job without competition.
Post by MrsAxilla on Sept 15, 2012 20:50:38 GMT -5
To be perfectly honest, I was planning to call anyway, because I have to make 5 job contacts a week for unemployment and I have an audit in a few weeks where I have to prove it. I was planning on following up with all my open leads, especially this one.
She has an interview and you don't (whether as of yet or not at all) I don't understand how you make them interview you?
Clearly I don't. My plan before I found out she had an interview was just to call and say that I noticed the position was still open and could they give me any information on the status of the search. That would still be the plan.
I guess you plan to stun them with your stellar superiority?
Look, I just think it's weird that you're flat out saying you'd be so fabulous that you could take this job from her if you wanted to with just a teeny little phone call but you want us to tell you it's totes cool and not at all shady or douchey.
I mean if you were gonna call them anyway then it's a moot point. But your phrasing indicates that's not totally the truth here.
I guess you plan to stun them with your stellar superiority?
Look, I just think it's weird that you're flat out saying you'd be so fabulous that you could take this job from her if you wanted to with just a teeny little phone call but you want us to tell you it's totes cool and not at all shady or douchey.
I mean if you were gonna call them anyway then it's a moot point. But your phrasing indicates that's not totally the truth here.
Yes, I get what you're saying. Tone is hard on the Internet, no? If one teeny phone call would get me a job, I wouldn't be unemployed now, would I?
Yes, I would be way better at the job than her. I do have stellar superiority in that regard, and I worked damn hard to earn it. Even SHE would tell you that! But who the hell knows what an employer is looking for? There's a reason they called her and not me (yet), but I doubt it's because they think she's better qualified. A better fit or something, sure.
I was planning on calling before I found out about her interview. Now I feel like that would be a shady, douchey move. But I need a job, too, and I have to look out for myself and my family, don't I?
Call. You have to look out for yourself first and since you were already planning to call her text shouldn't change your position on that. Having been in the work force for a long time now (and having gotten screwed over for not properly looking out for myself) I'm kind of a hardened bitch about that now.
I think you're in for a big surprise...as in you are probably too qualified and your friend costs them a lot less. That's why she got the interview. I'm thinking if you haven't been called for an interview yet, you probably will not be called.
I don't see a problem with giving them the "status" call, but I don't think it will change anything....and considering you think you would do a much better job than her, you'll have to sort through your feelings on that one.
I guess you plan to stun them with your stellar superiority?
Look, I just think it's weird that you're flat out saying you'd be so fabulous that you could take this job from her if you wanted to with just a teeny little phone call but you want us to tell you it's totes cool and not at all shady or douchey.
I mean if you were gonna call them anyway then it's a moot point. But your phrasing indicates that's not totally the truth here.
Yes, I get what you're saying. Tone is hard on the Internet, no? If one teeny phone call would get me a job, I wouldn't be unemployed now, would I?
Yes, I would be way better at the job than her. I do have stellar superiority in that regard, and I worked damn hard to earn it. Even SHE would tell you that! But who the hell knows what an employer is looking for? There's a reason they called her and not me (yet), but I doubt it's because they think she's better qualified. A better fit or something, sure.
I was planning on calling before I found out about her interview. Now I feel like that would be a shady, douchey move. But I need a job, too, and I have to look out for myself and my family, don't I?
You keep saying "(yet)"? Why? Why do you think they are planning on calling others when the interviews have already been scheduled?
Post by copzgirl1171 on Sept 16, 2012 7:47:59 GMT -5
I thought about this all night. The "yet" fully leads me to believe you plan on undercutting your friend by either disparaging her in some way or selling yourself in a manner that brings your superiority to the fore front.
No way I could reconcile this in my mind with someone I call "friend" but hey, all is fair in job hunting right?
Post by lyssbobiss, Command, B613 on Sept 16, 2012 9:05:04 GMT -5
I'm hoping you're being a little TIC with the comments of your fabulosity. If you've got to make a call for unemployment purpses, go ahead and do the status check. If they reposted it and they tell you this and encourage you to re-apply, go for it. If they state they're almost done interviewing you have your answer. But maybe you'll have to just breathe in and accept that your friend was just a better fit for them, and yes it sucks because you trained her, but it happens in life.
"This prick is asking for someone here to bring him to task Somebody give me some dirt on this vacuous mass so we can at last unmask him I'll pull the trigger on it, someone load the gun and cock it While we were all watching, he got Washington in his pocket."
I still don't understand why if you are/were qualified for the job they didn't call you in for an interview six months ago? As an employer, I wouldn't sit on someone I wanted for the job for one month, let alone six.
I also hope that you are not intending to downgrade your friend's abilities and qualifications to help yourself.
I still don't understand why if you are/were qualified for the job they didn't call you in for an interview six months ago? As an employer, I wouldn't sit on someone I wanted for the job for one month, let alone six.
I also hope that you are not intending to downgrade your friend's abilities and qualifications to help yourself.
I'm thinking MrsA is smarter than that. That will only make herself look bad.
I would not hire a lawyer to do a non-law job. Because I know unemployed lawyers, and I know that as soon as they get an offer in their field, they'll take it. You may be an exception. You might not want to practice. But if your license is current, and your last job was as a lawyer, I wouldn't believe it. And I wouldn't want a lawyer's attitude doing a non-law job either.
I think a "status check" phone call Wouldn't hurt.
I may be reading too much into this, but is your concern that your friend is going to oversell herself and take credit for things that she did under you? (ie say "I ran X project " when in reality you ran it and she was a subordinate ?)
Even if the above is the case I'm not sure what you can do about it.
Post by StrawberryBlondie on Sept 16, 2012 17:10:55 GMT -5
I also think a phone call to check on the status wouldn't hurt.
My issue is that you seem pretty darn sure you'll get the job over her... which seems a bit overconfident considering she currently has an interview and you don't.
Post by cookiemdough on Sept 16, 2012 17:59:09 GMT -5
I agree that if you are an attorney they probably are skeptical of hiring you for a position that does not require a lawyer. Even if you are qualified you would pose a greater risk of turnover because they would expect that this is just an interim job for you until you found a position that was more suited for your qualifications.
I agree that if you are an attorney they probably are skeptical of hiring you for a position that does not require a lawyer. Even if you are qualified you would pose a greater risk of turnover because they would expect that this is just an interim job for you until you found a position that was more suited for your qualifications.
This is probably the case.
Almost none of my clients will consider a JD for a non-JD position, unless the person has been in the role for a number of years (think graduated law school in 1983, but has been working as a paralegal since 1984)
I also think a phone call to check on the status wouldn't hurt.
My issue is that you seem pretty darn sure you'll get the job over her... which seems a bit overconfident considering she currently has an interview and you don't.
Ditto this. Why are you so sure you'd be better at the job?? I don't mean that to be as snarky as it sounds, but perhaps for reasons unknown to you, she would be better.