Just because the term didn't exist in 1993 doesn't mean the people didn't.
But the "alternative" people back then were different, right? I like to think (maybe because I was young and sort of kind of one of them) far less godawful?
Or it could just be that I've gotten old enough that I have no tolerance for this shit.
But at any rate, every time I go to Williamsburg I want to do violent things to others and to myself in a way that the idea of going back to 1993 and hanging out with those people doesn't conjure up.
(And sadly, two of my closest friends now live in Williamsburg so I think the day on which I finally snap can't be that far behind.)
I think the equivalent is closer to those who listened to emo, rather than Seattle Alternative. The emo kids dressed pretty much the same way hipsters today dress, listened to music you've never heard of, and had the same mentality of abandoning a band once it became mainstream.
But the "alternative" people back then were different, right? I like to think (maybe because I was young and sort of kind of one of them) far less godawful?
Or it could just be that I've gotten old enough that I have no tolerance for this shit.
But at any rate, every time I go to Williamsburg I want to do violent things to others and to myself in a way that the idea of going back to 1993 and hanging out with those people doesn't conjure up.
(And sadly, two of my closest friends now live in Williamsburg so I think the day on which I finally snap can't be that far behind.)
I think the equivalent is closer to those who listened to emo, rather than Seattle Alternative. The emo kids dressed pretty much the same way hipsters today dress, listened to music you've never heard of, and had the same mentality of abandoning a band once it became mainstream.
I have no idea when emo began but it wasn't in my high school in 1993 or by the time I graduated in 1997. By me, "alternative" kids were either (a lame and preppy version of) grunge, or goth. I could tolerate those two crowds well (although they were definitely into abandoning bands when they became too popular). I didn't even know what the term "emo" meant until I was in law school in 2001 onward
I think the equivalent is closer to those who listened to emo, rather than Seattle Alternative. The emo kids dressed pretty much the same way hipsters today dress, listened to music you've never heard of, and had the same mentality of abandoning a band once it became mainstream.
I have no idea when emo began but it wasn't in my high school in 1993 or by the time I graduated in 1997. By me, "alternative" kids were either (a lame and preppy version of) grunge, or goth. I could tolerate those two crowds well (although they were definitely into abandoning bands when they became too popular). I didn't even know what the term "emo" meant until I was in law school in 2001 onward
It was so underground you didn't know about it!
I learned about emo from a floormate freshman year of college (1998) She had been into emo for a few years by then and we learned about it from her. I didn't dress like her, but we listened to the music together. A lot of the music was pretty good. I still have my Sunny Day Real Estate and Fugazi albums.
In 2001 or so, it became mainstream (Dashboard Confessional and the like) and that friend was pretty upset about it.
I think the equivalent is closer to those who listened to emo, rather than Seattle Alternative. The emo kids dressed pretty much the same way hipsters today dress, listened to music you've never heard of, and had the same mentality of abandoning a band once it became mainstream.
I have no idea when emo began but it wasn't in my high school in 1993 or by the time I graduated in 1997. By me, "alternative" kids were either (a lame and preppy version of) grunge, or goth. I could tolerate those two crowds well (although they were definitely into abandoning bands when they became too popular). I didn't even know what the term "emo" meant until I was in law school in 2001 onward
Precursors to emo music kind of existed, but no one called it emo. It generally was called "shoegazing" or lo-fi in the early '90s. My Bloody Valentine, Jesus & Mary Chain, Neutral Milk Hotel, Yo La Tengo... all heavily influenced the emo genre.
I have no idea when emo began but it wasn't in my high school in 1993 or by the time I graduated in 1997. By me, "alternative" kids were either (a lame and preppy version of) grunge, or goth. I could tolerate those two crowds well (although they were definitely into abandoning bands when they became too popular). I didn't even know what the term "emo" meant until I was in law school in 2001 onward
Precursors to emo music kind of existed, but no one called it emo. It generally was called "shoegazing" or lo-fi in the early '90s. My Bloody Valentine, Jesus & Mary Chain, Neutral Milk Hotel, Yo La Tengo... all heavily influenced the emo genre.
But don't hold it against them.
Yeah, I dont consider any of those bands emo.
Also, bands that I do consider emo- Sunny Day Real Estate, Fugazi, Jawbreaker, Braid, Jimmy Eat World (before they were mainstream), Saves the Day, etc-- all had albums in the early 90s.
And for the record, I wasn't into the emo "scene"- I just knew a lot about it from my friend. Back in 1993-1994 I was listening to Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men, with a bit of Pearl Jam thrown in because it was on Z100. I found good music in college. lol
But the "alternative" people back then were different, right? I like to think (maybe because I was young and sort of kind of one of them) far less godawful? Or it could just be that I've gotten old enough that I have no tolerance for this shit.
Unfortunately, even though I wish the former were the case, it's probably the latter. Either way, that's why I find "Girls" so annoying.
But at any rate, every time I go to Williamsburg I want to do violent things to others and to myself in a way that the idea of going back to 1993 and hanging out with those people doesn't conjure up.
Agree with every word of this, and add Bushwick and Greenpoint for good measure.
Lol at remembering the straightedge hardcore contingent. Guess what? They're still around. Except now I see them at the IKEA in Red Hook. Not even kidding about that...
My favorites: Happy Coffee in Denver Bradburys in Madison Dogwood in Minneapolis
There is a hipster barista (hipsterista?) at Bradburys that I think looks like Matt Damon. He also works at Mana cafe and I did a double take the first time he served me my food. I like going there
To the OP - Sorry, those are not hipster bands at all.
My favorites: Happy Coffee in Denver Bradburys in Madison Dogwood in Minneapolis
There is a hipster barista (hipsterista?) at Bradburys that I think looks like Matt Damon. He also works at Mana cafe and I did a double take the first time he served me my food. I like going there .
I don't know if this is an additional hipster talent or just a coincidence, but the crepes at Bradburys are ah-may-zing.
But the "alternative" people back then were different, right? I like to think (maybe because I was young and sort of kind of one of them) far less godawful?
Or it could just be that I've gotten old enough that I have no tolerance for this shit.
But at any rate, every time I go to Williamsburg I want to do violent things to others and to myself in a way that the idea of going back to 1993 and hanging out with those people doesn't conjure up.
(And sadly, two of my closest friends now live in Williamsburg so I think the day on which I finally snap can't be that far behind.)
I think the equivalent is closer to those who listened to emo, rather than Seattle Alternative. The emo kids dressed pretty much the same way hipsters today dress, listened to music you've never heard of, and had the same mentality of abandoning a band once it became mainstream.
And for the record, I wasn't into the emo "scene"- I just knew a lot about it from my friend. Back in 1993-1994 I was listening to Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men, with a bit of Pearl Jam thrown in because it was on Z100. I found good music in college. lol
Pearl Jam is good! I am seeing them this weekend!
And yes, I am aware that I am living in the 90s. I really should have been born 15 years earlier.
Post by stretchad on Sept 18, 2012 20:52:02 GMT -5
DH and I regularly have heated debates on what a hipster is. And have spent countless hours judging people as to whether or no they are a hipster. So, as a gag gift I bought him this book:
BTW, this post is brought to you courtesy of my sister accusing me of being a hipster on the basis of my taste in music. (I listen to new stuff too, but pretty mainstream.) Clearly neither of us knows what a hipster is! LOL
And yes, I am aware that I am living in the 90s. I really should have been born 15 years earlier.
I have a friend who follows them on tour :/ And she dated the Eddie Vedder in a "prominent" tribute band for a while basically because he was a fake Eddie Vedder (who was kind of an asshole, and lived in his parents' basement at, like, 40). And she has lots of PJ tattoos.
And yes, I am aware that I am living in the 90s. I really should have been born 15 years earlier.
I have a friend who follows them on tour :/ And she dated the Eddie Vedder in a "prominent" tribute band for a while basically because he was a fake Eddie Vedder (who was kind of an asshole, and lived in his parents' basement at, like, 40). And she has lots of PJ tattoos.