Thursday Treason Watch

[Pom]

Chris fucking Christie is tied to hedge fund that owns AMI and The Enquirer and STILL could not leverage that into a job working for Donnie. Holy shit.

[tessalb]

Aug 23, 2018 14:37:05 GMT -5 Bad Dingo said:

Aug 23, 2018 11:39:00 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Michael Cohen paid a mysterious tech company $50,000 'in connection with' Trump's campaign

Hmm...payment for setting up a server in Trump Tower to communicate with Russia?

The way things are going with this investigation, I fully expect your musings here to be confirmed by WaPo or Vanity Fair in 6-8 months.

[curbsideprophet]

Aug 23, 2018 18:21:37 GMT -5 bowies said:

Sit down for this....Trump is itching to pardon Manafort.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2018/08/23/trump-sought-his-lawyers-advice-weeks-ago-on-possibility-of-pardoning-manafort-but-they-counseled-against-it-giuliani-says/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.c16bc7fcd8f3&__twitter_impression=true&noredirect=on

This seems like it would be a bad idea for #45.

[mbcdefg]

The Manhattan district attorney's office is considering pursuing criminal charges against the Trump Organization and two senior company officials in connection with Michael Cohen's hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, NYT reports.

t.co/oqYCTtjQfu?amp=1

[sparrowsong]

On CNN, @michaelavenatti just made an important point: If prosecutors granted David Pecker immunity *after* already knowing they had what they needed against Michael Cohen, that suggests they might be pursuing more information about the role of Trump himself in the payoff scheme.


Someone commented that this is obvious but it’s still helpful for me. ( I never know ahead of time who dunnit in crime novels/movies either though)

[Velar Fricative]

Aug 23, 2018 21:26:52 GMT -5 mbcdefg said:

The Manhattan district attorney's office is considering pursuing criminal charges against the Trump Organization and two senior company officials in connection with Michael Cohen's hush money payment to Stormy Daniels, NYT reports.

t.co/oqYCTtjQfu?amp=1

[carmenere]

Aug 23, 2018 21:16:39 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Aug 23, 2018 18:21:37 GMT -5 bowies said:

Sit down for this....Trump is itching to pardon Manafort.

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2018/08/23/trump-sought-his-lawyers-advice-weeks-ago-on-possibility-of-pardoning-manafort-but-they-counseled-against-it-giuliani-says/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.c16bc7fcd8f3&__twitter_impression=true&noredirect=on

This seems like it would be a bad idea for #45.

When has that ever stopped him?

[ESF]

Aug 24, 2018 6:02:24 GMT -5 carmenere said:

Aug 23, 2018 21:16:39 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

This seems like it would be a bad idea for #45.

When has that ever stopped him?

Well, it’s a bad idea in that if Manafort has been pardoned, it’s effectively like having immunity. Which means prosecutors can compel you to testify as there’s no longer the threat of self-incrimination. Which means Manafort has to spill the beans on Trump and his shitty kids, or they will throw him in jail for contempt.

Now I’m sure Manafort and Trump are hoping this is all going to blow over and the investigation will end and then Manafort can be pardoned. But I doubt we will see one anytime soon.

[curbsideprophet]

Aug 24, 2018 6:15:42 GMT -5 ESF said:

Aug 24, 2018 6:02:24 GMT -5 carmenere said:

When has that ever stopped him?

Well, it’s a bad idea in that if Manafort has been pardoned, it’s effectively like having immunity. Which means prosecutors can compel you to testify as there’s no longer the threat of self-incrimination. Which means Manafort has to spill the beans on Trump and his shitty kids, or they will throw him in jail for contempt.

Now I’m sure Manafort and Trump are hoping this is all going to blow over and the investigation will end and then Manafort can be pardoned. But I doubt we will see one anytime soon.

Do you think #45 understands those are the consequences of pardoning him now though? I assume this is why is lawyers are telling him to wait until after the investigation. However he is in his own Fox News world and I honestly don't know if he really understand what is going on. I feel like his advisors hide info from him to avoid setting him off.

[anodyne]

Today the House Judiciary has a meeting with someone who investigated Clinton's emails. This meeting was set up after the Cohen plea and implication of Trump.

Video of Swalwell on Maddow in link. 4:00 mark.

www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/swalwell-what-else-is-in-the-locked-safe-of-trump-secrets-1305435203614?v=railb

[ESF]

Aug 24, 2018 6:42:13 GMT -5 curbsideprophet said:

Aug 24, 2018 6:15:42 GMT -5 ESF said:

Well, it’s a bad idea in that if Manafort has been pardoned, it’s effectively like having immunity. Which means prosecutors can compel you to testify as there’s no longer the threat of self-incrimination. Which means Manafort has to spill the beans on Trump and his shitty kids, or they will throw him in jail for contempt.

Now I’m sure Manafort and Trump are hoping this is all going to blow over and the investigation will end and then Manafort can be pardoned. But I doubt we will see one anytime soon.

Do you think #45 understands those are the consequences of pardoning him now though? I assume this is why is lawyers are telling him to wait until after the investigation. However he is in his own Fox News world and I honestly don't know if he really understand what is going on. I feel like his advisors hide info from him to avoid setting him off.

I’m sure he understands this. Cheeto has been a sued enough times that he is well aware of what witnesses can do to him.

Anyway, Cheeto can’t just wave a wand and pardon someone. His lawyers have to write up the paperwork. They aren’t going to do it. Giuliani is a criminal too.