A reporter said Flake, Manchin, Collins, and Murkowski have been talking for days. I’m wondering if they’ve been consolidating around asking for an FBI investigation. Flake seems to be out and Donnelly seems to be in on that based on his recent public statement. I’m guessing McConnell has given a hard no on the FBI investigation, and now they have to decide whether to vote or issue the request publicly.
Did we see this WaPo piece yet? Small (?) gathering on 7/1 *in his calendar* involving Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and Squi, whom Ford was apparently dating that summer. She had named the first three as being there the night of her assault.
Did we see this WaPo piece yet? Small (?) gathering on 7/1 *in his calendar* involving Kavanaugh, Judge, PJ, and Squi, whom Ford was apparently dating that summer. She had named the first three as being there the night of her assault.
That was what the prosecutor started asking about right before they stopped letting her ask questions.
Well, that seems suspicious
Yep. And I’m PISSED that they didn’t allow the experienced sex crimes prosecutor to question the accused sex offender. Such a fucking farce. They knew she’d trip him up.
I’m not feeling confident about the votes on this. I feel like he will be pushed through.
I’m seriously having a rough time with all this and I realize I might need to take a step back from it. But it’s also got me fighting mad, and I’m kind of taking that as a good thing. It’s been 25 years since what happened to me and I’ve never had this anger before towards what happened, the way I was treated during the trial, the way I was treated by friends and family during all of it and the way I’ve been treated by any friend I’ve chosen to tell in the years after. I don’t really know how to deal with these feelings right now, though.
Sometimes I get hopeful and think even if Kavanaugh does get through, that it will at least have upset enough people that it will affect some change. But then the people that are defending him are so loud and overbearing, in the hearing today, in news interviews, on Facebook, in comments to anyone who is supporting Dr. Ford, and that really gets me down. Have you seen the comments towards Cory Booker on Facebook, or even Alyssa Milano on Instagram? it’s fucking disgusting. I tried to talk myself into the comments being just trolls but then I saw one of my high school girl friends commenting the same stuff (which I unfollowed immediately) It’s fucking depressing.
I keep my story pretty private because I feel like people would think of me the things that are being said. Now I know my worst fears on that are true.....might deactivate Facebook at least, for a bit.
Post by chilerellanos on Sept 27, 2018 22:39:32 GMT -5
I have been sexually assault a few times during my younger, party days.
I know I’ve told my sister about one episode, but not all of them.
But she was on fb today making all kinds of jokes about how if she had boys she’d make sure to buy them calendars and keep good records to exonerate them when they’re 50, and some girl wants to bring them down.
I would love it if they disbarred him. Not that it would actually matter but I'd still get some measure of satisfaction out of it.
The ABA doesn’t handle disbarments, the state bar does.
The ABA is not really that important. It’s basically just an industry association. It’s money comes from defense firms.
It’s really surprising and out of character for them to issue this request for a background check because (1) they try to look nonpartisan and (2) they actually lean towards the corporate-right.
I don’t think it will really carry much weight though.
I’m not feeling confident about the votes on this. I feel like he will be pushed through.
I’m seriously having a rough time with all this and I realize I might need to take a step back from it. But it’s also got me fighting mad, and I’m kind of taking that as a good thing. It’s been 25 years since what happened to me and I’ve never had this anger before towards what happened, the way I was treated during the trial, the way I was treated by friends and family during all of it and the way I’ve been treated by any friend I’ve chosen to tell in the years after. I don’t really know how to deal with these feelings right now, though.
Sometimes I get hopeful and think even if Kavanaugh does get through, that it will at least have upset enough people that it will affect some change. But then the people that are defending him are so loud and overbearing, in the hearing today, in news interviews, on Facebook, in comments to anyone who is supporting Dr. Ford, and that really gets me down. Have you seen the comments towards Cory Booker on Facebook, or even Alyssa Milano on Instagram? it’s fucking disgusting. I tried to talk myself into the comments being just trolls but then I saw one of my high school girl friends commenting the same stuff (which I unfollowed immediately) It’s fucking depressing.
I keep my story pretty private because I feel like people would think of me the things that are being said. Now I know my worst fears on that are true.....might deactivate Facebook at least, for a bit.
You have said everything I have felt and said to my DH tonight. Today was brutal in a way I wasn’t prepared for. I didn’t expect to be back emotionally in the place I was, days after my rape. I cried a lot today and I wanted to turn in to a protective ball, but I had to adult and I couldn’t.
I’m disgusted with what I see on Facebook, from friends and friends of friends. I feel pretty disgusted with almost everyone in the world right now.
That was what the prosecutor started asking about right before they stopped letting her ask questions.
Well, that seems suspicious
Yep. And I wish one or more of the Dems has followed up. I feel like if reporters could see this someone on their staff should have also been able to catch it and flag it for questions.
Post by morecoffeeplease on Sept 28, 2018 6:09:15 GMT -5
I had a dream I saw Kavanaugh in a DC restaurant and he was run out.
I have off today so I’m going to go into dc for the rally. There is one on the senate steps and one on the Supreme Court steps at the same time.
George W is still the worst.
I wish a reporter would go digging into Graham’s background and see what his dirty secrets are.
I know we have said not to call senators that aren’t your own. I assume that’s still true for this situation right? I’m going to call Kaine and Wagner today and thank them.
I’m going to spend the rest of my day off writing post cards for midterms. Fuck all this shit.
Saw an alert that whip count leans Confirm. I am so thoroughly disgusted.
I know we all tried to prepare our hearts for this while tempering any optimism, but GAH!
I remember reading something about the possibility of Dem’s reopening the FBI investigation if they re-take the Senate (I know, I know, but there’s a Chance; lemme hang onto it). Can someone with better knowledge help me out with the chance/ logistics of this scenario? And then what?? We’re even more positive we’ve got a serial abuser/ liar on the highest court in the land? They won’t unseat him, right?
Saw an alert that whip count leans Confirm. I am so thoroughly disgusted.
Who is reporting this? And whip count on which vote? I feel pretty sure the votes today and the procedural vote on Saturday will pass but Tuesday is a long time from now so it’s really too early to whip for that with any certainty.
Saw an alert that whip count leans Confirm. I am so thoroughly disgusted.
Who is reporting this? And whip count on which vote? I feel pretty sure the votes today and the procedural vote on Saturday will pass but Tuesday is a long time from now so it’s really too early to whip for that with any certainty.
Also, if they have 48 and a couple undecideds that "leans confirm." I really do think it comes down to reliable reporting about Collins/Murkowski, which I haven't seen any yet.
That being said, yes, it still makes my heart sink.
Someone on Twitter made a really good analogy for Brett Kavanaugh's attitude. A college professor said that every professor has had the experience of a child who got all As before getting their first B sitting in their office alternatively crying and getting mad/ blaming other people (like the professor) for taking away the A the student feels entitled to.
Post by biscoffcookies on Sept 28, 2018 6:59:12 GMT -5
Politico has people in the GOP conference meeting last night telling them bits of what happened. One point: Mitchell walked through what the hearing established, and said that as a prosecutor she would not charge Kavanaugh or seek a search warrant.
BUT THIS IS NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL AND THE SAME STANDARDS OF PROOF DO NOT APPLY. It is INSANE how successfully the GOP has convinced themselves and the nation that you are entitled to have important, powerful positions of privilege unless someone can prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. (And incidentally, they would be the first in line to defend at-will employment which gives employers the right not to hire, or to fire, people for ANY REASON AT ALL as long as it is not based upon their membership in a Constitutionally protected class.)