I know a woman who still sells. I’m very worried about her financial situation (I used to work closely with her husband). She even scaled way back on a very successful photography business to do it (she’s very talented, not just a momtographer). So at least she’ll have that to fall back on.
I know a woman who still sells. I’m very worried about her financial situation (I used to work closely with her husband). She even scaled way back on a very successful photography business to do it (she’s very talented, not just a momtographer). So at least she’ll have that to fall back on.
I had to check where you live because I know a really amazing photographer that did the same thing.
I think that LLR doesn’t use paychecks or direct deposit, they use some sort of reloadable Visa type card. I know my friend who sells Stella & Dot has the same thing.
lilac05 I agree, I am worried about the 3-4 friends I have that still sell. I hope they are following all of this and thinking about an exit plan. And I hope they haven't gone into debt.
I know a woman who still sells. I’m very worried about her financial situation (I used to work closely with her husband). She even scaled way back on a very successful photography business to do it (she’s very talented, not just a momtographer). So at least she’ll have that to fall back on.
I had to check where you live because I know a really amazing photographer that did the same thing.
I’m military and so is her husband, so we’ve each moved like 4 times in the four years since she photographed our wedding. If it sounds like the same person, PM me.
Really? You both were part of this overall MLM problem.
I freely admit that I was. But I'll also say that LLR was NOTHING like this, none of the shitty publicity or news was apparent back then (summer of 2016). I sold for like 2 months. People loved the product, including myself. None of this writing was on the wall.
Post by thelurkylulu on Dec 5, 2018 19:26:18 GMT -5
I’m glad someone brought this here because I’m also in the defective group, but I’m only there to follow the drama. I get tired of the “Mark and Deanne lied to me!!!!1111” BS. Like, it’s always been a MLM... What did these people think was going to happen? The woe is me stuff is a little hard to swallow sometimes.
I found the former top 100 Tiffany whatever’s deposition interesting. I haven’t read Patrick’s yet. I am so curious to know what made some of the big name top sellers finally leave. They’ve all remained so hush hush about their departures and say vague things like “someday I’ll talk” JUST SPILL IT NOW!!! lol
I think that LLR doesn’t use paychecks or direct deposit, they use some sort of reloadable Visa type card. I know my friend who sells Stella & Dot has the same thing.
Huh. And this doesn't tip people off that it's all a scam? Rhetorical question.
I’m glad someone brought this here because I’m also in the defective group, but I’m only there to follow the drama. I get tired of the “Mark and Deanne lies to me!!!!1111” BS. Like, it’s always been a MLM... What did these people think was going to happen? The woe is me stuff is a little hard to swallow sometimes.
I found the former top 100 Tiffany whatever’s deposition interesting. I haven’t read Patrick’s yet. I am so curious to know what made some of the big name top sellers finally leave. They’ve all remained so hush hush about their departures and say vague things like “someday I’ll talk” JUST SPILL IT NOW!!! lol
have you read the transcript from the call back in August when Mark went off the rails? That seems to be the instigator for so many of the top 100 leaving.
also the fact that there is no inventory in stock for them to order and sell.
Really? You both were part of this overall MLM problem.
I freely admit that I was. But I'll also say that LLR was NOTHING like this, none of the shitty publicity or news was apparent back then (summer of 2016). I sold for like 2 months. People loved the product, including myself. None of this writing was on the wall.
Dude. Really? Are you trying to imply that you had no idea how MLMs work? Or that you didn't know that LLR was one?
I’m glad someone brought this here because I’m also in the defective group, but I’m only there to follow the drama. I get tired of the “Mark and Deanne lies to me!!!!1111” BS. Like, it’s always been a MLM... What did these people think was going to happen? The woe is me stuff is a little hard to swallow sometimes.
I found the former top 100 Tiffany whatever’s deposition interesting. I haven’t read Patrick’s yet. I am so curious to know what made some of the big name top sellers finally leave. They’ve all remained so hush hush about their departures and say vague things like “someday I’ll talk” JUST SPILL IT NOW!!! lol
have you read the transcript from the call back in August when Mark went off the rails? That seems to be the instigator for so many of the top 100 leaving.
also the fact that there is no inventory in stock for them to order and sell.
I freely admit that I was. But I'll also say that LLR was NOTHING like this, none of the shitty publicity or news was apparent back then (summer of 2016). I sold for like 2 months. People loved the product, including myself. None of this writing was on the wall.
Dude. Really? Are you trying to imply that you had no idea how MLMs work? Or that you didn't know that LLR was one?
There can't be a single person from here that can pretend they didn't know it was an MLM.
Full disclosure, I came close to being part of jenny's downline knowing full well what it was. I was hoping I could get in and out while making a good dose of cash. I'm glad I thought it through a bit further. LOL! Seeing money piss away on IVF treatments that aren't working messes with your head. That's my excuse anyway. *shrug*
I had to check where you live because I know a really amazing photographer that did the same thing.
I’m military and so is her husband, so we’ve each moved like 4 times in the four years since she photographed our wedding. If it sounds like the same person, PM me.
Nope. She's been here since 2011. But weird that they're both photographers.
I freely admit that I was. But I'll also say that LLR was NOTHING like this, none of the shitty publicity or news was apparent back then (summer of 2016). I sold for like 2 months. People loved the product, including myself. None of this writing was on the wall.
Dude. Really? Are you trying to imply that you had no idea how MLMs work? Or that you didn't know that LLR was one?
“Dude” no I’m not implying I didn’t know how MLMs worked or that LLR was one. MLMs largely suck but I’ve never seen one fall THIS hard. And what I’m saying is that when I got/was involved, what is happening now wasn’t on my radar.
I think farmvillelover and Jenny were both pretty honest that they knew what they were getting into.
Yes. They were, they knew how MLMs worked and that they target the poor and still chose to promote it here all "tra-la-la I can go on more vacations."
loFl. LLR had zero effect on whether or not I went on any or more vacations. When I got into LLR there was almost no news on retailers getting screwed. I actually had several people wanting to onboard under me and I flat out said "no, don't do it" and others very interested in signing up. I went out of my way to discourage them, even after my few weeks into selling. And some of them onboarded under other people regardless. I don't regret what I did.
Do you have an issue with me? There's a block function, in case you weren't aware.
Yes. They were, they knew how MLMs worked and that they target the poor and still chose to promote it here all "tra-la-la I can go on more vacations."
loFl. LLR had zero effect on whether or not I went on any or more vacations. When I got into LLR there was almost no news on retailers getting screwed. I actually had several people wanting to onboard under me and I flat out said "no, don't do it" and others very interested in signing up. I went out of my way to discourage them, even after my few weeks into selling. And some of them onboarded under other people regardless. I don't regret what I did.
Do you have an issue with me? There's a block function, in case you weren't aware.
I don't particularly care for you but I don't let anyone on here ruffle my feathers enough to block them. Stop defending yourself to me, it's pointless and I care so little about what you have to say. You seem bothered though so feel free to take your own advice.
loFl. LLR had zero effect on whether or not I went on any or more vacations. When I got into LLR there was almost no news on retailers getting screwed. I actually had several people wanting to onboard under me and I flat out said "no, don't do it" and others very interested in signing up. I went out of my way to discourage them, even after my few weeks into selling. And some of them onboarded under other people regardless. I don't regret what I did.
Do you have an issue with me? There's a block function, in case you weren't aware.
I don't particularly care for you but I don't let anyone on here ruffle my feathers enough to block them. Stop defending yourself to me, it's pointless and I care so little about what you have to say. You seem bothered though so feel free to take your own advice.
I don't particularly care for you but I don't let anyone on here ruffle my feathers enough to block them. Stop defending yourself to me, it's pointless and I care so little about what you have to say. You seem bothered though so feel free to take your own advice.
I really hope all the people who quit full time jobs for this are okay. I almost signed up twice because I saw people making money hand over fist, but I decided I hated thinking of people I loved as customers, and I hate the waste of all these pieces of clothing that are destined for landfills because they are so terribly ugly. A TON of consultants just had sales of super ugly items for super cheap on Black Friday (like $5 for tops normally priced st $38), so I am wondering if all those people are trying to get rid of stuff to leave.
I know at least three former GBCNers who still sell, but I think all three have made tons, and even if they're stuck with a lot of inventory, it was definitely worth their while from a financial perspective. I often wonder if they will open independent boutiques to keep their customer base but stop supporting LLR.
I really hope all the people who quit full time jobs for this are okay. I almost signed up twice because I saw people making money hand over fist, but I decided I hated thinking of people I loved as customers, and I hate the waste of all these pieces of clothing that are destined for landfills because they are so terribly ugly. A TON of consultants just had sales of super ugly items for super cheap on Black Friday (like $5 for tops normally priced st $38), so I am wondering if all those people are trying to get rid of stuff to leave.
I know at least three former GBCNers who still sell, but I think all three have made tons, and even if they're stuck with a lot of inventory, it was definitely worth their while from a financial perspective. I often wonder if they will open independent boutiques to keep their customer base but stop supporting LLR.
I started following one of the top sellers before she left LLR because her videos were so interesting. She started an independent boutique. Are a lot of them doing that? She opened a kiosk at her local mall. I wonder how that's doing.
She still has people falling over everything she sells. It's amazing to watch.
My cousin in rural Indiana who started selling LLR maybe a year-ish ago put up a video this morning for a GOOB sale. She didn't mention the lawsuit but said that she wants to "re-focus her energy on her family and home." Eeeek.
I feel bad for her. We aren't close at all -- I hadn't heard from her since we were teens, until she added me to her LLR FB group -- but I suspect she's very much the typical LLR target, someone who thought this was an opportunity to do better than she had been doing at a series of low-to-mediocre-paying jobs and wanted it to work so badly that she didn't think too much beyond trying to make it work. And now she is stuck with a ton of inventory.
So what happens to sellers like her? ("Retailers" is such LLR-speak.) If people buy things from her now, does it actually help her recover some of her costs or does she have to give a portion of whatever comes in to LLR?
I know MLM have been around forever, but have clothing based ones like this been popular? I never saw the appeal of LLR as either a customer or a consultant and I don't like buying clothes this way so it all seems so strange to me, even buying from non LLR "boutiques." Is this a new phenomenon, or something that's always existed that I didn't know about?
So what happens to sellers like her? ("Retailers" is such LLR-speak.) If people buy things from her now, does it actually help her recover some of her costs or does she have to give a portion of whatever comes in to LLR?
I don't think "retailers" ever gave back a portion of their sales, but they had to purchase the product upfront to have it in stock to sell. On the FB group seeral people pointed out that the consultants were the real customers.
My cousin in rural Indiana who started selling LLR maybe a year-ish ago put up a video this morning for a GOOB sale. She didn't mention the lawsuit but said that she wants to "re-focus her energy on her family and home." Eeeek.
I feel bad for her. We aren't close at all -- I hadn't heard from her since we were teens, until she added me to her LLR FB group -- but I suspect she's very much the typical LLR target, someone who thought this was an opportunity to do better than she had been doing at a series of low-to-mediocre-paying jobs and wanted it to work so badly that she didn't think too much beyond trying to make it work. And now she is stuck with a ton of inventory.
So what happens to sellers like her? ("Retailers" is such LLR-speak.) If people buy things from her now, does it actually help her recover some of her costs or does she have to give a portion of whatever comes in to LLR?
Once you buy the inventory from LLR, you own it. They don't get a portion of your sales. They do, however, provide retailers a POS system to ring up customers. If she centimes to use their system, she will pay a processing fee. But she is not obligated to use theirs, she can easily use a system like Square. She would just be responsible for collecting and paying sales tax on her own. But honestly at that point, no one does. They sell it at a loss and move on.
I know MLM have been around forever, but have clothing based ones like this been popular? I never saw the appeal of LLR as either a customer or a consultant and I don't like buying clothes this way so it all seems so strange to me, even buying from non LLR "boutiques." Is this a new phenomenon, or something that's always existed that I didn't know about?
I know of a bunch of different clothing MLMs... unfortunately. And I know a few IRL people who decided to start their own clothing business/boutique run in a similar fashion to the MLMs - but without the 'up line' nonsense. They buy an inventory of stuff they think will sell - probably from alibaba or some such site - and either host video sales live on FB, have a popup shop on FB, or hold parties in their own home (they don't haul to others' homes).
One of the girls I know is relatively successful at it, but she was with LLR too (she got out early b/c her partner didn't want to continue after her baby, maybe she saw the writing on the wall too).