WOuld you eat this?

[pantsparty]

My neighborhood is doing a holiday potluck and I'm glad we're not in town for it. I've seen the inside of some of these people's houses and no thank you.

[Queen Dick, Hibernating Bear]

/pork butt

[circa1978]

Dec 10, 2018 10:16:40 GMT -5 @meepmeep said:

Holy sh!t. I almost always answer yes to these, but raw poultry out on the counter for 12 hours ... how would that even be an option?

Listen to the chicken.

[circa1978]

By the way, I always expect the end of these threads to be an UPDATE: I ate <random disgusting thing> and LIVED, ya'll. So, I'm still here for that.

[icedcoffee]

To those of you saying you'd eat it, did you miss the part where she said it was no longer even cold?

Like...I'd consider it if it was still really cold or still had a few ice crystals, but it was basically room temperature raw chicken. Shudder.

[SwimDeep]

The point of leaving it out was to let it thaw. It thawed and was still cool to the touch - not warm. I'd give it the sniff test and still eat it if it was just me.

My H, though, would probably toss it.

[onomatopoeia]

It was frozen when you took it out? I admit I'd be tempted. But not tempted enough to actually eat it. Especially since it was not cold to the touch.

[Leeham Rimes]

Dec 10, 2018 9:36:47 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Dec 10, 2018 8:40:58 GMT -5 bex1973 said:

As opposed to eating raw chicken?

Correct. All chicken fit for human consumption is cooked to 160, so I'm not seeing a problem here. 

Something that would be left raw or rare? Maybe not. Chicken does not fit that category. 

www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/the-big-thaw-safe-defrosting-methods-for-consumers

Perishable foods should never be thawed on the counter, or in hot water and must not be left at room temperature for more than two hours.

Even though the center of the package may still be frozen as it thaws on the counter, the outer layer of the food could be in the "Danger Zone," between 40 and 140 °F — temperatures where bacteria multiply rapidly.

When thawing frozen food, it's best to plan ahead and thaw in the refrigerator where it will remain at a safe, constant temperature — at 40 °F or below.

There are three safe ways to thaw food: in the refrigerator, in cold water, and in the microwave.

This is also why I won't eat my mother's cooking anymore. She plays way too fast and loose with "I think this is ok". And cool to the touch isn't cold. A soda can from a store is 'cool to the touch' but try drinking it and it definitely tastes like warm soda.

would you want a restaurant serving you chicken left completely thawed on a counter for 8-12 hours? Well, maybe you would, lol.

[bears]

Dec 10, 2018 9:36:47 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Dec 10, 2018 8:40:58 GMT -5 bex1973 said:

As opposed to eating raw chicken?

Correct. All chicken fit for human consumption is cooked to 160, so I'm not seeing a problem here. 

Something that would be left raw or rare? Maybe not. Chicken does not fit that category. 

It's been warmed on the counter to a temperature where bacteria will grow and multiply to dangerous levels. Even when it's cooked to 165, all the dangerous bacteria won't be killed.

[smock]

Dec 10, 2018 10:23:22 GMT -5 circa1978 said:

By the way, I always expect the end of these threads to be an UPDATE: I ate <random disgusting thing> and LIVED, ya'll. So, I'm still here for that.

Or, if there's no update, I'll just assume the OP got salmonella.

[DotAndBuzz]

No way.

Also - for those who play it fast and loose - E.coli and Staph.aureus produce heat STABLE toxins. So even if you cook the meat, the toxin will remain, and make you sick. Granted, those aren't usually the ones you think of for chicken food poisoning, but it is so not worth the risk.

[TR]

Dec 10, 2018 9:36:47 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Dec 10, 2018 8:40:58 GMT -5 bex1973 said:

As opposed to eating raw chicken?

Correct. All chicken fit for human consumption is cooked to 160, so I'm not seeing a problem here. 

Something that would be left raw or rare? Maybe not. Chicken does not fit that category. 

So why refrigerate chicken at all? Just leave it in the pantry.

[jezebel]

msmerymac I thought you were a vegetarian?

[Leeham Rimes]

Dec 10, 2018 12:41:24 GMT -5 TR said:

Dec 10, 2018 9:36:47 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

Correct. All chicken fit for human consumption is cooked to 160, so I'm not seeing a problem here. 

Something that would be left raw or rare? Maybe not. Chicken does not fit that category. 

So why refrigerate chicken at all? Just leave it in the pantry.

I laughed out loud for real at this. Kinda awkward in the waiting room but whatevs.

[Deleted]

I screamed "no" at the first word - chicken.

[msmerymac]

Dec 10, 2018 13:04:29 GMT -5 jezebel said:

msmerymac I thought you were a vegetarian?

I was for 12 years!

Maybe that account for me not knowing how to handle meat. 

[jenny1980]

Go for it! I look forward to your report.