Fisher Price voluntarily recalled them though, right? They can't recall products from other companies. And it wouldn't be illegal for another company to start making a knock off (although it might be a patent infringement).
A favorite moral question for gbcn: my daughter is 6 months old and loved her rock n play in her first few month. We stopped using it well over 2 months ago because I didn’t feel like it was safe anymore. I planned on keeping it for a second potentia/hypothetical baby. Would it be wrong to return it for the credit since we haven’t been using any longer anyway?
Co-signed.
This is exactly my scenario. Too bad she’s 6 months and 9 days so just over the 6 month limit.
Fisher Price voluntarily recalled them though, right? They can't recall products from other companies. And it wouldn't be illegal for another company to start making a knock off (although it might be a patent infringement).
I mean CPSC, not Fisher Price. CPSC is the regulatory body for product safety. And Fisher Price's recall may have been voluntary, but CPSC has been leaning on them. With influence from the AAP.
Fisher Price voluntarily recalled them though, right? They can't recall products from other companies. And it wouldn't be illegal for another company to start making a knock off (although it might be a patent infringement).
I mean CPSC, not Fisher Price. CPSC is the regulatory body for product safety. And Fisher Price's recall may have been voluntary, but CPSC has been leaning on them. With influence from the AAP.
I think all those would be recalled if AAP had their way. But the Gov hates forcing recalls and let's be honest to get the RnP recalled it took a high enough number of deaths and parent, the AAP pushing HARD to get it recalled. I have no idea what the direct mortality rate relates to those products is.
I think the RnP main issue was being marketed as a sleeper. I assume they will rebrand like in CA and deaths will still occur but the warnings will excuse their liability.
Post by cheeseandcrackers on Apr 12, 2019 19:22:48 GMT -5
wow thats crazy. last year in nov when my baby was in the hospital, they had a ton of rock n plays that they gave out to parents to use in the room. i guess they are going to toss them all.
I’ll have to find one and hope he/she likes it, but serious question- how are these safer? I mean, incline is the same isn’t it?
That's my question. How are swings and bouncers any safer?
I know they’re all different but the bouncer we had had a much lower incline. My son loved the RnP because the incline was so high, he did not like the bouncer because it was much closer to being flat.
This is what I used for DD2 for sleeping in our room the first 2+ months. It worked great for that, but she didn’t seem to need motion or swinging to fall asleep like DD1 did. The one we have rocked slightly but it was manual.
This is what I used for DD2 for sleeping in our room the first 2+ months. It worked great for that, but she didn’t seem to need motion or swinging to fall asleep like DD1 did. The one we have rocked slightly but it was manual.
Yeah my kid used the RnP that didn’t rock or anything. Hated the swing. So I’m hoping this one won’t need movement either but we’ll see!
I don’t think it’s part of the recall but FP does make a flat rock n play. It’s what we used with DD1. It rocks gently and has mesh sides, but is flat (and foldable/portable). DD2 didn’t take to it as well which is why we went with the inclined one that’s been recalled.
This is what I used for DD2 for sleeping in our room the first 2+ months. It worked great for that, but she didn’t seem to need motion or swinging to fall asleep like DD1 did. The one we have rocked slightly but it was manual.
Yeah my kid used the RnP that didn’t rock or anything. Hated the swing. So I’m hoping this one won’t need movement either but we’ll see!
I didn’t have the auto rock one, but mine loved the vibration feature!
I use this bassinet for my younger son, admittedly with a dock a tot inside it. These threads have been stressing me out though so I’m going to wean him out of the dock this weekend. The bassinet is nice though because it’s lightweight and portable so I can move it around the house.
knx9211 we have the soothing motions bassinet from fisher price that has a vibration feature and that is what DS slept in in our room until we tried to transition him to his PNP. We'll use it again with DD.
knx9211 we have the soothing motions bassinet from fisher price that has a vibration feature and that is what DS slept in in our room until we tried to transition him to his PNP. We'll use it again with DD.
Between this recall and the fact that E2 really likes to be bounced, I'm thisclose to convincing DH to spring for a Mamaroo.
I don’t regret splurging on our Mamaroo whatsoever. That thing was a lifesaver for our first six months. Basically we splurged on a fancy stroller, a Keekaroo peanut changer, a Mamaroo, and a nice glider/rocker/recliner. We cut other places by buying used clothes, skipping newborn photos, etc. I decided a few big ticket items that would truly make my life easier were worth it.
Between this recall and the fact that E2 really likes to be bounced, I'm thisclose to convincing DH to spring for a Mamaroo.
I don’t regret splurging on our Mamaroo whatsoever. That thing was a lifesaver for our first six months. Basically we splurged on a fancy stroller, a Keekaroo peanut changer, a Mamaroo, and a nice glider/rocker/recliner. We cut other places by buying used clothes, skipping newborn photos, etc. I decided a few big ticket items that would truly make my life easier were worth it.
I don’t regret splurging on our Mamaroo whatsoever. That thing was a lifesaver for our first six months. Basically we splurged on a fancy stroller, a Keekaroo peanut changer, a Mamaroo, and a nice glider/rocker/recliner. We cut other places by buying used clothes, skipping newborn photos, etc. I decided a few big ticket items that would truly make my life easier were worth it.
I love the peanut changer!!
We lived in an apartment with communal laundry for babyharpy’s first 11 months. I don’t know if you’ve read any of my laundry sagas, but our laundry room was a nightmare. We would’ve needed so many changing pad covers if we’d had a traditional one because we couldn’t just throw stuff in the wash whenever. Even my frugal mom was like, “Buy the fancy changing pad that doesn’t create more laundry” after she did my laundry once.
We lived in an apartment with communal laundry for babyharpy’s first 11 months. I don’t know if you’ve read any of my laundry sagas, but our laundry room was a nightmare. We would’ve needed so many changing pad covers if we’d had a traditional one because we couldn’t just throw stuff in the wash whenever. Even my frugal mom was like, “Buy the fancy changing pad that doesn’t create more laundry” after she did my laundry once.
I have never understood this argument about changing pads. Don’t get me wrong, I am 100% “splurge on whatever baby item you want to splurge on”, but regular changing pads can be used without a cover. I chose to use a cover, but the material of our $30 changing pad is such that it is 100% waterproof and wipeable and doesn’t NEED a cover. The keekaroo wouldn’t have worked for us due to size, but I also just never understood the wipeable versus not wipeable selling point. Do they actually sell changing pads that aren’t waterproof and wipeable?
Difference in design. While sleeping in these is dangerous it’s open enough you don’t have the same level of risk for awake time
Still only put baby to bed in a Safe sleep space (crib, bassinet, PNP) but these are safe for wake time
So basically it’s safer because your kid won’t fall asleep in it. The only safe baby products are the ones that keep you and your kid awake as long as possible.
This is what it's beginning to sound like to me. I don't have any infants or any plans to have an infant again so I have no dog in this fight. But god I remember how brutally hard it was. My first baby literally didn't sleep in longer than two hour stretches for 4 months. I almost lost my damned mind.
When it comes to these issues, I feel like there is very little attention paid to why parents need these things. The implication is almost that we're being lazy. There's a lot of shaming about unsafe sleep practices (i.e. using swings, Rock-N-Play, car seats, etc. all of which I admit that I used or tried) but very little attention paid to the hardship of long term sleep deprivation and what parents can do about that.
Between the pressure to breastfeed and the back to sleep campaign (plus the lack of mandated maternity leave, what can mom do to get some sleep? Sleep is so central to mental health. And yet we wonder why PPD is so common in this country.
We lived in an apartment with communal laundry for babyharpy’s first 11 months. I don’t know if you’ve read any of my laundry sagas, but our laundry room was a nightmare. We would’ve needed so many changing pad covers if we’d had a traditional one because we couldn’t just throw stuff in the wash whenever. Even my frugal mom was like, “Buy the fancy changing pad that doesn’t create more laundry” after she did my laundry once.
I have never understood this argument about changing pads. Don’t get me wrong, I am 100% “splurge on whatever baby item you want to splurge on”, but regular changing pads can be used without a cover. I chose to use a cover, but the material of our $30 changing pad is such that it is 100% waterproof and wipeable and doesn’t NEED a cover. The keekaroo wouldn’t have worked for us due to size, but I also just never understood the wipeable versus not wipeable selling point. Do they actually sell changing pads that aren’t waterproof and wipeable?
This always confuses me, too. We're using an $18 pad with DD and no cover, and she's definitely shit and spit up on this thing so far.
We lived in an apartment with communal laundry for babyharpy’s first 11 months. I don’t know if you’ve read any of my laundry sagas, but our laundry room was a nightmare. We would’ve needed so many changing pad covers if we’d had a traditional one because we couldn’t just throw stuff in the wash whenever. Even my frugal mom was like, “Buy the fancy changing pad that doesn’t create more laundry” after she did my laundry once.
I have never understood this argument about changing pads. Don’t get me wrong, I am 100% “splurge on whatever baby item you want to splurge on”, but regular changing pads can be used without a cover. I chose to use a cover, but the material of our $30 changing pad is such that it is 100% waterproof and wipeable and doesn’t NEED a cover. The keekaroo wouldn’t have worked for us due to size, but I also just never understood the wipeable versus not wipeable selling point. Do they actually sell changing pads that aren’t waterproof and wipeable?
I think I just assumed that since they were sold with covers that they weren’t waterproof? IDK, it was confusing and I was barely (ok, bit really) keeping my shit together during pregnancy. I’m now mildly disappointed that we spent so much money if we could’ve gotten the same functionality for less. Oh well! It’s done.