We are still really struggling with naps and they seem to keep getting shorter. Now she won’t nap longer than 20-30 minutes even if I’m wearing her. I am following all wake windows/tired cues during the day. Have tried napping in bassinet with pitch black room/white noise, stroller walks, car rides, swing, being carried. Have tried feeding right before naps instead of doing “eat play sleep” and it makes no difference. Have tried putting her down both asleep and drowsy but awake. I am at my wits end 😟
This was my DS. He never slept more than 20-30 minutes as a newborn, no matter what I did. I hope its just a phase for you!
I'm just frustrated at how much trial and error this all is BY THE DAY. What works one day, doesn't work the next. We are still trying to mix in formula but haven't found one that doesn't make him spit up (well, it will one day, but not the next, and again the next day). I'm so confused about this Eat/Play/Sleep shit. This guy falls asleep at his meal no matter what. And since he is spitting up 80% of the time after his meals, exactly how am I supposed to "play" with him? He just spits up more if I put him on his tummy.
I swear, it's unbelievable how much I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING.
Post by lovelyshoes on Jun 28, 2019 11:40:29 GMT -5
woowoo this is my second and I feel the same exact way. I don’t think they can truly play until older. Maybe once a day for a little bit until 6 weeks and then a few times a day after that. There is no way that my child (either one) would wake from a nap and not want to eat. And I also don’t see how you can do tummy time several minutes at a time. A minute at a time at most at this point for us no matter what toy is nearby. As for spit up, that is normal until older. I think you should stick with the same formula for a few days in a row. Does he spit up at all feedings, during the morning more? I think they spit up more after forging during a hungry feed (mornings here). I almost cry at every spit up because it’s so hard to get this boy to eat and then he spits. I keep trying to figure out a pumping schedule and i still can’t. Also, so much conflicting advice. I’m starting to think I don’t make enough milk. I know being frustrated doesn’t help this, but I just don’t know how to make this work. Hugs girl. Sorry I went off topic and made this about me too.
Post by icedcoffee on Jun 28, 2019 11:44:06 GMT -5
woowoo , Spit up is ok and I wouldn't necessarily be formula shopping to avoid it. It's totally normal, albeit really annoying. DS lived in a bib until he was almost 1. Throw a bib on the babe and let it be (unless it becomes super excessive then talk to a pedi). I always held him upright for like 10-15 minutes after feeding him. I also tried to avoid feeding and then straight into the carseat or a diaper change because it inevitably led to spit up (Something about raising the legs higher than their body). I tried to give it 10-15 minutes to start settling.
ETA: Blankets on the floor before tummy time are your friend for easy spit up clean up. Especially when they start solids and the spitup is not white/clear anymore. LOL
There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to his spitting up. hamster, I think we're going to stick with this formula for a week and see if it's any better than the last one after a few days. The last one was the last kind with a generic version, this is an organic one with probiotics blah blah blah. Not super expensive but no generic. Ped recommended.
I am in survival mode today. DD (3.5) is home from daycare because they are closed for a staff day. I asked MIL months ago to help me today because DD + DS on my own sounded overwhelming. As of Tuesday she and I discussed this elaborate plan in which DD would go to MIL & FIL's last night so MIL didn't have to drive over in the morning, MIL had me pack bathing suits/etc. for splash pad, tonight they were going to fireworks, and we'd pick her up tomorrow. H and I would even get some down time, with just DS for two evenings!
So last night FIL calls H at work at like 4pm to tell him MIL's been sick since the night before, is feeling better, but needs sleep. Can she pick up DD in the morning instead? So DD has a meltdown at daycare pickup because she was expecting to go to Mimi's and now isn't. Same, kid, same. I was expecting a relatively quiet night.
Then this morning H leaves for work, leaves me with the two kids. MIL calls at 8:30, around when I'm expecting her to show up. Leaves a "please call me" message on the answering machine (that I can't get to bc I'm nursing in DS' room). She calls H at work, tells him she's still sick, can't come. He calls my cell to tell me. Now not only am I soloing a 3 year old + 3 week old, which I arranged months ago to not be doing, but I'm starting the day out with a hungry DD, no plans, still unshowered and in PJs myself, haven't even had coffee, all of which I'd have taken care of before H left if I knew I was soloing. Plus cue another DD meltdown because again, Mimi's not coming. Oh and I was going to let her play in the sprinkler, but her overnight bag with swimwear is in H's car. At work. Come on, H.
It's 2:15 now, and I have both kids down for naps. I can tell DD isn't sleeping, but IDGAF, she's quiet(ish) and in her room. We're all alive. Tonight I am sending DD and H to the fireworks because I feel bad for her with the disappointments, but then after soloing two kids all day, I'm soloing DS all evening during his fussy time (and will all night because BFing). I could really use a damn break.
There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to his spitting up. hamster, I think we're going to stick with this formula for a week and see if it's any better than the last one after a few days. The last one was the last kind with a generic version, this is an organic one with probiotics blah blah blah. Not super expensive but no generic. Ped recommended.
Thanks for the commiseration all.
The spit up sucks so much. So much. We couldn’t do anything with her at all the first 3.5 months. Hours after she ate, still something to spit. Crying to eat while she’s spitting. Car seat, swing, blanket, carrier, crib, holding up. All the spit. Average of 2.5 bibs per meal. Cloths always under her head and on our bodies. We even broke safe sleep rules and let her sleep with a cloth under her head. Otherwise covered in cold wet spit in the chilly winter house.
Everyone and everything smelled like sour milk. The formula spit stained. Tried all the things. Rice cereal, anti spit formula, different ratios. Real chemistry lab going on. Mixing, journaling, speculation about the results. I think everything was placebo effect. Time was the only thing.
I felt (still feel) like I wasn’t playing enough or giving enough tummy time. Working so hard to keep the food in.
Just in the past couple weeks have we been able to remove a bib after eating and keep it off. Still spits, but not a continuous fountain.
I'm just frustrated at how much trial and error this all is BY THE DAY. What works one day, doesn't work the next. We are still trying to mix in formula but haven't found one that doesn't make him spit up (well, it will one day, but not the next, and again the next day). I'm so confused about this Eat/Play/Sleep shit. This guy falls asleep at his meal no matter what. And since he is spitting up 80% of the time after his meals, exactly how am I supposed to "play" with him? He just spits up more if I put him on his tummy.
I swear, it's unbelievable how much I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING.
If it makes you feel better I feel the exact same way.
What formulas have you tried? If you’re ok with a European formula I’d be happy to send you a bag of HiPP Combiotik that didn’t work my lo (he needs the hydrolyzed proteins so we’re using HiPP Comfort)
I’ve read you should give a formula 2 weeks to see if it works before switching 🤷🏻♀️
There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to his spitting up. hamster, I think we're going to stick with this formula for a week and see if it's any better than the last one after a few days. The last one was the last kind with a generic version, this is an organic one with probiotics blah blah blah. Not super expensive but no generic. Ped recommended.
Thanks for the commiseration all.
The spit up sucks so much. So much. We couldn’t do anything with her at all the first 3.5 months. Hours after she ate, still something to spit. Crying to eat while she’s spitting. Car seat, swing, blanket, carrier, crib, holding up. All the spit. Average of 2.5 bibs per meal. Cloths always under her head and on our bodies. We even broke safe sleep rules and let her sleep with a cloth under her head. Otherwise covered in cold wet spit in the chilly winter house.
Everyone and everything smelled like sour milk. The formula spit stained. Tried all the things. Rice cereal, anti spit formula, different ratios. Real chemistry lab going on. Mixing, journaling, speculation about the results. I think everything was placebo effect. Time was the only thing.
I felt (still feel) like I wasn’t playing enough or giving enough tummy time. Working so hard to keep the food in.
Just in the past couple weeks have we been able to remove a bib after eating and keep it off. Still spits, but not a continuous fountain.
SAME. Both kids were this spitty. I have burp rags all over the house and constantly smell like spit up.
E1 grew out of it about 5ish months and I'm expecting E2 to grow out of it too.
hamster does C still have white noise in his room? We also have small house & that’s the only way my big kids can sleep.
Yeah, but it seemed to make his sleep worse. We need to give it another shot I think.
Unrelated we just had H give a bottle. We didn't know how much to give, but he chugged 3 oz and is now milk drunk and wanted to top it off from the tap. It's hilarious!
On that note, what's a month old baby supposed to take per feed? Working towards H doing a 9 PM bottle.
I'm just frustrated at how much trial and error this all is BY THE DAY. What works one day, doesn't work the next. We are still trying to mix in formula but haven't found one that doesn't make him spit up (well, it will one day, but not the next, and again the next day). I'm so confused about this Eat/Play/Sleep shit. This guy falls asleep at his meal no matter what. And since he is spitting up 80% of the time after his meals, exactly how am I supposed to "play" with him? He just spits up more if I put him on his tummy.
I swear, it's unbelievable how much I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I AM DOING.
If it makes you feel better I feel the exact same way.
What formulas have you tried? If you’re ok with a European formula I’d be happy to send you a bag of HiPP Combiotik that didn’t work my lo (he needs the hydrolyzed proteins so we’re using HiPP Comfort)
I’ve read you should give a formula 2 weeks to see if it works before switching 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for this. I will definitely let you know, not opposed to it but want to exhaust the less expensive/more readily available options first? His spitup isn't nearly as bad as what some people are describing here so I think we need to just cool our jets a bit.
hamster, my kid is a month old and drinking about 4 oz every 3 hours...it's equating to 24 oz in 24 hours, but that's 50/50 breastmilk and formula.
Thanks! We're still closer to every 2 hours, so 3 oz is probably a good estimate. He's been super alert the last few days so hopefully those intervals will start spreading out too.
Oh, and we went through like a load of laundry a day with C from spits. There were days where we would both end up in 3 different outfits from spit, plus sometimes a couch pillow would take a hit. Thank God we have leather couches.
Post by oceanstbride on Jun 28, 2019 21:07:27 GMT -5
DD is so much more spitty than DS ever was. She’s almost 3m and while it’s improved with age (and gas drops!), I still stink of old milk and carry a burp cloth everywhere.
Susie omg I would be raging at your MIL. Hope you got a little bit of a break!
We just got home from a week of traveling. DD did really great overall with flying, long car rides, hotel. We stayed out pretty late and were 2 hrs behind, so I’m looking forward to getting back into our routine. I wore her a lot and our natural split was I had DD and H was “in charge” of DS so I am a little touched out and dying for some time to myself this wknd.
Oh hey “we have a newborn and are tired spa. Simple disagreement turns into A big fight”. I knew this would happen at some point but I’m still sad and mad. Summary - I think it is a luxury to have 3-4 hours personal time preceding a full nights sleep 3 days in a row and DH disagrees because it’s travel and that’s not relaxing. DH thinks I’m ungrateful for all the help he’s giving but I disagree because I’m just making suggestions on How things could be done easier since I’ve been doing them for years.
Ugh namasteak. I remember my first work trip post maternity leave; taking myself out to a quiet dinner (where I ate with 2 hands at a leisurely pace), following by starfishing in a king bed watching tv, and then a blissful nights sleep (even getting up to pump). It was like a vacation.
So thats to say I’m team you, and award you the gold medal in the Tired Olympics.
Ugh namasteak. I remember my first work trip post maternity leave; taking myself out to a quiet dinner (where I ate with 2 hands at a leisurely pace), following by starfishing in a king bed watching tv, and then a blissful nights sleep (even getting up to pump). It was like a vacation.
So thats to say I’m team you, and award you the gold medal in the Tired Olympics.
I hate making it into a competition and life’s not fair but I’m so worked up about this. I bet a million gbcn dollars that everything feels better in the morning
ETA - guess who just walked in and said it’s time to switch? He must have set an alarm because i normally just go in to get him whenever baby wakes around 230/3. So he feels badly even if he won’t admit it.
DD gave us a 7.5 hour stretch followed by a 4 hour stretch last night with only one quick feeding in between. At least she’s usually a good nighttime sleeper nowadays, even if her naps suuuuuuck.
Yay! FX her naps improve soon.
We’ve been having the opposite problem and reached out to the happiest baby live chat. They were incredibly helpful and have made suggestions on not just snoo settings but also adjustments to swaddles, schedule, feeding etc. maybe they can help you too?
DD gave us a 7.5 hour stretch followed by a 4 hour stretch last night with only one quick feeding in between. At least she’s usually a good nighttime sleeper nowadays, even if her naps suuuuuuck.
That's amazing! I'm glad she sleeps so well at night!
I’m jealous of all of you who say you get 2-3 hours in between daytime feedings. I’m lucky if I get one stretch like that during the day and it’s rough. If she’s awake she wants to be nursing. My supply is good and I can hear her gulping so it doesn’t appear that she’s deprived. I may start supplementing with formula to give myself a break. This is yesterday (and a normal day):
Does anybody have a baby tracker app they like? Need one that covers feeding and sleep trends, and preferably puts it into a pretty 24 hour graph. Notes for meds would be good too. I did C's on paper because I'm old school, but maybe I should join the real world this time.
Does anybody have a baby tracker app they like? Need one that covers feeding and sleep trends, and preferably puts it into a pretty 24 hour graph. Notes for meds would be good too. I did C's on paper because I'm old school, but maybe I should join the real world this time.
I like baby connect. A few weeks in now though and I’ve stopped tracking.
We’ve been having the opposite problem and reached out to the happiest baby live chat. They were incredibly helpful and have made suggestions on not just snoo settings but also adjustments to swaddles, schedule, feeding etc. maybe they can help you too?
We did the bag of rice trick at their suggestion, and that substantially improved her nighttime sleep immediately. I haven’t asked them about help with naps though.
Also namasteak there is a Snoo Mamas fb group with helpful posts/tips/people seeking advice, if you aren’t already aware!
I didn’t know about this! Should I just search “snoo mamas” ?
scm1011 Are you switching breasts after 7-10 minutes? Even though you still have milk in a breast after that time it slows down a lot so baby is working harder for less milk. It helps some people so might be worth a shot.