Unless it's been prescribed by a medical professional, intermittent fasting is just a trendy name for disordered eating.
YUP! As someone who had an eating disorder, IF is EXACTLY what I used to do all under the guise of ... I'm not a morning person so I don't eat breakfast, and I'm just too busy to eat lunch blah blah blah.
I know that dieting doesn't simply give you an eating disorder and lots of people can do any plan without falling prey to disordered thoughts and action. And I know that those with ED tendencies will find a way to fulfill their disorder on any plan (CICO, WW, Keto, 'clean eating') but IF is so disordered by it's nature that it's scary to me that it's so popular and mainstream.
To be clear, if you're legit not hungry, don't eat breakfast. Fine. But the "I don't eat until xx time" and the "When do you stop being hungry in the mornings?" thing....eeek. If you're hungry but refusing to eat until a certain time due to intermittent fasting, that is....not good.
@simpsonsgal I'm not a ballet instructor, but I personally don't think ballet is a good class for a three year old. Neither of my girls got much out of it, and they were both 5 when they took it. A more general movement class like Gymboree was much more fun for them. They both also loved Music Together.
I disagree. I started ballet at 2.5 (switched to tap at age 8), and I feel like it improved my posture and coordination.
Unless it's been prescribed by a medical professional, intermittent fasting is just a trendy name for disordered eating.
I've heard it talked up so much that when I sit in on the patient education nutrition groups (for my patients at work) i always ask the nutritionists about it. Two different groups have basically said it's bullshit.
Unless it's been prescribed by a medical professional, intermittent fasting is just a trendy name for disordered eating.
I've heard it talked up so much that when I sit in on the patient education nutrition groups (for my patients at work) i always ask the nutritionists about it. Two different groups have basically said it's bullshit.
Well, I mean I would lose weight too if I cut out 1-2 meals a day. . .
YUP! As someone who had an eating disorder, IF is EXACTLY what I used to do all under the guise of ... I'm not a morning person so I don't eat breakfast, and I'm just too busy to eat lunch blah blah blah.
I know that dieting doesn't simply give you an eating disorder and lots of people can do any plan without falling prey to disordered thoughts and action. And I know that those with ED tendencies will find a way to fulfill their disorder on any plan (CICO, WW, Keto, 'clean eating') but IF is so disordered by it's nature that it's scary to me that it's so popular and mainstream.
To be clear, if you're legit not hungry, don't eat breakfast. Fine. But the "I don't eat until xx time" and the "When do you stop being hungry in the mornings?" thing....eeek. If you're hungry but refusing to eat until a certain time due to intermittent fasting, that is....not good.
I tried IF and one of two things would inevitably happen. I would be so hungry by noon that I would binge eat and/or I wouldn’t eat enough calories during the 8 hour window.
They are tacky but that's *why* kids love them. As much as I love sleek and stylish, my opposing UO is that little kids aren't meant to live like contemporary artists and little Danish engineers. The families who go so hip and sleek and have no colorful crap or Paw Patrol shirts for their toddlers always seem so rigid and unfun to me. Not saying that's you. I'm just thinking of my friend whose daughter wears dark mustard rompers and gray headwraps and has a monochromatic nursery. She is going to be so pissed when her kid wants to wear rain boots and a cape to school.
This
I hate the character T shirts and all that, but my mom always buys them for my kids and they go wild over being able to wear a Pokemon shirt or Barbie doll shirt. I gave up fighting that battle long ago. Plus I don't feel badly when those kinds of clothes end up destroyed at camp and daycare.
My DD has a Captain Marvel dress and a Wonder Woman dress. She has worn them out to dinner and just around town. I figure if you can't get away with wearing that kind of stuff unironically when you are 5, when is the right time?
My son had an Ironman costume that he wore all the time when he was 5 and 6. We would go out and he would wear it, I figured, what’s the big deal? Dh on the other hand thought it was a big deal. We were at a store buying who knows what and they overcharged us, the receipt said we purchased a few items that were not purchased by us or in our bag (we only got one) We went back to the store to get a refund and we were able to say “look for the kid in the Ironman costume” they found him, looked at our transaction on the camera, and refunded our money. My dh never complained about him wearing that costume in public again.
Post by Jalapeñomel on Jul 15, 2019 11:00:13 GMT -5
That people who were run off for racist stuff come waltzing back here, and ML just KOKO.
And who cares about how other people diet. It literally has zero to do with you, so people should do what makes them feel good, whether that’s keto or WW or IF. 🤷🏼♀️
That people who were run off for racist stuff come waltzing back here, and ML just KOKO.
And who cares about how other people diet. It literally has zero to do with you, so people should do what makes them feel good, whether that’s keto or WW or IF. 🤷🏼♀️
Agree with all. I don’t even know what to say about your first sentence other than it’s truly ridiculous.
And to the second point, there’s a long list of peer reviewed evidence based research that discusses the benefits of IF, including decreased insulin production, improved insulin sensitivity and glucose metabolism, and increased longevity. With over 100 million people that have prediabetes or type 2 diabetes, IF could help a significant proportion of the population.
@simpsonsgal I'm not a ballet instructor, but I personally don't think ballet is a good class for a three year old. Neither of my girls got much out of it, and they were both 5 when they took it. A more general movement class like Gymboree was much more fun for them. They both also loved Music Together.
I disagree. I started ballet at 2.5 (switched to tap at age 8), and I feel like it improved my posture and coordination.
I think the ballet classes at a young age are nice to introduce them to the vocabulary and form. They shouldn't be super strict though.
I actually like Hallmark holidays ... you know, Mother’s Day, Valentine’s Day, etc. etc.
We usually do something fun as a family like go on a hike and have a nice dinner in the city. We exchange presents. Weekends without holidays are just ... boring. They don’t have to be, of course, but ours get fairly monotonous.
You know you can go on a family hike and have dinner out (nice or not, with kids or without) on any old weekend, right? lol
I actually like Hallmark holidays ... you know, Mother’s Day, Valentine’s Day, etc. etc.
We usually do something fun as a family like go on a hike and have a nice dinner in the city. We exchange presents. Weekends without holidays are just ... boring. They don’t have to be, of course, but ours get fairly monotonous.
You know you can go on a family hike and have dinner out (nice or not, with kids or without) on any old weekend, right? lol
Sure, we CAN. But we get so bogged down with things like DD’s activities or the never ending chores. Or it’s like, what should we do for dinner tonight? Eh, feeling lazy, let’s just go to that Italian place downtown that we can walk to.
You know you can go on a family hike and have dinner out (nice or not, with kids or without) on any old weekend, right? lol
Sure, we CAN. But we get so bogged down with things like DD’s activities or the never ending chores. Or it’s like, what should we do for dinner tonight? Eh, feeling lazy, let’s just go to that Italian place downtown that we can walk to.
I need external motivation, okay!?! 😀
Haha, I get that.
We were up in the mountains this weekend. Just a short little two day trip. DH would like to move up there, but there are several reasons we haven't and likely won't. Anyway, we're sitting at the base of the ski resort while the kids are playing on this little "beach" (sand, mountain runoff creek, lots of rocks), DH and I are drinking and reading, and he turns to me and says, "if we lived up here, we could do this every weekend!"
No. No, we couldn't. Because if we lived up here, we would be busy living our actual lives, not, ya know, on vacation every weekend.
That people who were run off for racist stuff come waltzing back here, and ML just KOKO.
And who cares about how other people diet. It literally has zero to do with you, so people should do what makes them feel good, whether that’s keto or WW or IF. 🤷🏼♀️
Just recently Booby was bragging about going on a trip with her GBCN friends that still post here but refuse to admit that they’re still all friends. It’s wack-a-mole. Who specifically are you talking about?
Isn't IF basically just a fancy way of cutting back on calories? Because that's basically what you are doing.
Depends? Most of the people I know doing it have macros/calorie requirements and they are just squeezing their full day's calories into an 8 hour eating window. Which is also why I don't see it as an eating disorder - you're still getting all your calories.
My husband does too. It's annoying when I'm an outgoing introvert who needs weekends to get my quiet down time. He has a lot of days off so I more so blame it on needing more adult conversation.
I see we've moved on, but I don't like The Office, it's just not funny to me. I think I'm the only person in my work office who doesn't like it, so I always get left out of references.
My concern with fad diets is people who don't do enough research or talk to say a nutritionist or doctor before switching from IF to the cave man one or something so drastic that it could create more problems. If you're giving up all sugar, but then only eating so many calories in a short window without a break to go back to "normal" you could end up with issues, hopefully a specialist would help you decide what's best for your bodies needs. I support people who've talked to their doctor about IF or something else because it works for their individual medical needs, and they know how to do it properly. Let's acknowledge that a lot of people will just google the diet or ask a co-worker for tips on how to do it and that could lead to other issues with their bodies.
I also know someone who became "vegan" in middle school, this was to hide a developing eating disorder that's lasted well into her 30's. She ended up with miscarriages and a child born super early (thankfully healthy later in life). Could be unrelated, but if you were under weight and under nourished for years I can't imagine your reproductive organs will work as well in your child bearing years.
I think little kid graduation ceremonies, particularly those with little caps and gowns, are tacky.
Lol We just had our preK graduation and I said to a friend that it was a ridiculous ceremony that basically says "congrats, you didn't eat a fatal amount of glue! Huzzah!"
That said, the kids were super excited, and for them it's a big deal, so *shrug*. Everybody gets a trophy!
Post by twilightmv on Jul 15, 2019 12:50:50 GMT -5
Ehhh I think all the people who whine about other people’s diets and openly speculate about if it’s healthy are a little jealous. Nobody said jack to me about my diet when I was overweight and eating four donuts from the work kitchen for breakfast. And now that I’m a healthy weight and eating salmon and veggies for lunch I’ll get comments on “not taking it too far” “are your sure that’s healthy” etc. Alright, how about you worry about you and I’ll just enjoy this salad.
@simpsonsgal I'm not a ballet instructor, but I personally don't think ballet is a good class for a three year old. Neither of my girls got much out of it, and they were both 5 when they took it. A more general movement class like Gymboree was much more fun for them. They both also loved Music Together.
I disagree. I started ballet at 2.5 (switched to tap at age 8), and I feel like it improved my posture and coordination.
Yeah, but it sounds like you kept doing dance for many years. I totally agree that dance is worthwhile to do! I guess it’s my unpopular opinion that, before age 6 or so, there are way more age-appropriate classes than ballet.
Ehhh I think all the people who whine about other people’s diets and openly speculate about if it’s healthy are a little jealous. Nobody said jack to me about my diet when I was overweight and eating four donuts from the work kitchen for breakfast. And now that I’m a healthy weight and eating salmon and veggies for lunch I’ll get comments on “not taking it too far” “are your sure that’s healthy” etc. Alright, how about you worry about you and I’ll just enjoy this salad.
People commenting on what anyone is putting in their mouth at any time is obnoxious, be it donuts or salmon.
But, I don’t automatically think people who view IF as a breeding ground for disordered eating is jealous. I think any fad diets that gain quick notoriety and wide spread usage be it IF, Keto, Atkins, whatever should be examined with a certain amount of skepticism until they there is a general consensus amongst medical professionals that it’s a sound way of life or not.
Can I thread jack to ask if you think ballet for a 3-year old is worth it? I'm looking for a class in which to enroll my LO, and ballet is one of the few offered at her young age.
It depends on the studio and what you want out of it. My DD enjoyed music and movement at that age. I liked that she was learning to wait her turn, be patient, and how to move her body in new ways while also controlling her body. I love ballet but we didn't do it to learn actual ballet. At 3, it should be more of a creative movement class.
ETA: Personally, I'd look for a studio that doesn't do competition dance at a young age. At least in my area, those places are inappropriately intense at a young age. The studios that are more focused on actual ballet tend to have the better Creative Movement programs here.
I disagree. I started ballet at 2.5 (switched to tap at age 8), and I feel like it improved my posture and coordination.
Yeah, but it sounds like you kept doing dance for many years. I totally agree that dance is worthwhile to do! I guess it’s my unpopular opinion that, before age 6 or so, there are way more age-appropriate classes than ballet.
I think ballet can and should be taught in an age-appropriate manner. My DD started tap/ballet at 4. The class was like 30 minutes long. She had fun, it was no stress and she loved her recital costume. I don’t think ballet should be long and extremely rigid at 3/4.
Yeah, but it sounds like you kept doing dance for many years. I totally agree that dance is worthwhile to do! I guess it’s my unpopular opinion that, before age 6 or so, there are way more age-appropriate classes than ballet.
I think ballet can and should be taught in an age-appropriate manner. My DD started tap/ballet at 4. The class was like 30 minutes long. She had fun, it was no stress and she loved her recital costume. I don’t think ballet should be long and extremely rigid at 3/4.
I think that’s the problem; my older Dd took ballet that was so focused on form. She was really bored. From the looks of the recital, the whole dance studio operated the same way. That place was nuts, though; the recital costume cost $175 (for Ballet 1!) and the recital was over 3 hours long. AND I think the tickets were like $30 each, AND you had to buy a ticket for your dancer.
Can I thread jack to ask if you think ballet for a 3-year old is worth it? I'm looking for a class in which to enroll my LO, and ballet is one of the few offered at her young age.
It's more about learning a few basic positions and coordination, along with meeting new friends and learning how to be in a classroom (taking turns, standing in lines, etc) at that age! I think most Moms love seeing their 3yo in cute tutus for Recital, as well! :-D
I think ballet can and should be taught in an age-appropriate manner. My DD started tap/ballet at 4. The class was like 30 minutes long. She had fun, it was no stress and she loved her recital costume. I don’t think ballet should be long and extremely rigid at 3/4.
I think that’s the problem; my older Dd took ballet that was so focused on form. She was really bored. From the looks of the recital, the whole dance studio operated the same way. That place was nuts, though; the recital costume cost $175 (for Ballet 1!) and the recital was over 3 hours long. AND I think the tickets were like $30 each, AND you had to buy a ticket for your dancer.
That sounds awful. We go through the town parks & rec. it’s under $200 for 9 months of classes. Recital tickets are under $10 per person. Costumes are between $40-$100 (cost more the older you are bc you get more than 1 costume). They teach form but don’t harp on it even now that DD is in 3rd grade. I’ve looked into real dance studios and they all seem so intense so I know what you are describing. DD isn’t going to be the next misty copeland so we stick with rec level classes.