I think what organizations generally mean by "goals" is a work goal. So not "I want to be CEO someday and have a long and fulfilling career helping people" but "I will design and implement a new process for new employee orientation by the deadline of 9/16/19. I will do this by doing X, Y, and Z. I will measure success in this program through a survey to assess new employees' knowledge and comfort with organizational information". You can include personal goals if you want to, but it's also completely normal and expected to mostly focus on work product/projects.
Also that blows about your paycheck, i'm sorry. My job also issues a paper check for the first check, and I actually got my first three checks that way. So... hopefully yours goes better, lol. It's freaking annoying to have to wait!
But I don't have work goals. I do the things that people ask me to do, I take initiative to get my job done in a more efficient way when possible, sometimes I come up with creative ideas, but mostly I just get my work done. I am widely praised throughout the organization, so it's not as if my lack of goals is in some way defining the work product I'm putting out. I am good at my job and I care, mostly because I don't like looking like a moron, but my job is a way that I earn money and it's really nothing more than that to me. If I didn't need to work to sustain my lifestyle, I wouldn't.
Anyway, I get why organizations do it and what they're looking for, but it's something I struggle with because I honestly just don't have goals for work. I am more than happy to do whatever it is that the organization deems necessary or wants me to be involved in. I feel like that's enough for me.
My job is a series of never-ending projects. I have one role in the project. I have all kinds of ideas on how to make the overall process better, and when appropriate, I have shared them. But there are 8 million layers of red tape, so honestly, getting too invested just leads to frustration because nobody will ever implement my ideas.
I am a cog in a wheel. I am OK with this. I do literally the same thing every single day, just with slight variation. Because I have to produce X projects for every Y hours I'm working, there is no time for me to take on new and exciting things. I do what I do, and I go home. So yeah, I'd be super annoyed if I had to come up with goals.
Yeah, the issue here isn't how or what to write. The issue is that writing goals is a stupid practice that wastes people's time.
Huh. I have yet to meet an annual review evaluation form that didn't make me want to jump off a bridge, but the idea of having concrete goals isnt dumb inherently. The way it's expressed and often the form involved is utter nonsense...but I like goals. I write down personal goals all the time. I don't necessarily fill out a whole worksheet on how s.m.a.r.t. it is...and I certainly don't explain how it aligns to company initiatives, (gag) but I find it helpful to write it down. And then come back in 6 months and a year and think about how it's going, or isn't. Write new goals or reassess how I'm going there.
Jesus...this is how I ended up in management isn't it? I'm one of *them.* Oh god.
Maybe this depends on the job. See above re: my job. I have nearly zero promotion potential. Until people above me with more power change how my job is done or the opportunities available, there is not much for me to write besides, "I will continue to efficiently complete my projects, and I will strive to improve my efficiency and accuracy." The end. I would want to stab my eyes out if I were forced to do this yearly.
Just in time for your engine to die and have to buy a new one!
Just me? Oh.
Sorry! I'm super-pessimist when it comes to this. Same thing with warranties. It seems like exactly when it expires something goes wrong. I'm fairly certain when we pay our mortgage off, our house will suffer a catastrophic flood or something.
But seriously, congrats on the extra money each month!
sidebar - any ideas on your halloween costume? Because it's almost September 1st!
My random - this building is going to kill me. They seem to have deliberately gone out of their way to wire everything incorrectly. *dons hard hat and goes to yell at more people*
My H texted me. His boss was home sick yesterday. Came in today but then messaged the team that he was going home to lie down while taking calls because he was having trouble balancing and walking. I started typing in all caps that H better tell him to go to the ER. I told him I'd take him if he needed. Boss's wife is taking him to ER. I'm having flashbacks to February 2017 and over here like, "NO, MOTHERFUCKER, YOU ARE NOT SLEEPING THIS OFF." You don't fuck around with neuro symptoms, OK people?!
100 percent different topic: Costco sells these cookies called Hello Panda Chocolate. They are these little chocolate cream filled nuggets, and let me tell you, they are fantastic. It's probably good that they come in little individual sized packages so I don't eat them all at once.
The story has a good ending. She finally got offered the position. But the emotional stress this has taken on me is indescribable.
I hope it's a good ending because that next-level bullshit in the hiring doesn't bode well for women in the industry. And the part where you took it to the folks who needed to hear it and were blown off? Even shittier. I hope she works out and is awesome, or that this is an excellent springboard for her if they continue on the path they started with here.
On the non-positive side, I am also looking for a new job. I am not okay with being blown off. They only come to me when another women leaves the group asking me to figure out what is wrong. I am only a couple years from having enough money to quit so I only have to deal with this bullshit for a little longer.
For some reason, this time has broken me. I have cried for basically 4 days straight. Not sure why I can’t stop.
100 percent different topic: Costco sells these cookies called Hello Panda Chocolate. They are these little chocolate cream filled nuggets, and let me tell you, they are fantastic. It's probably good that they come in little individual sized packages so I don't eat them all at once.
I have one of these packages in my desk right now. They are amazing. We bought them on a whim for vacation snacks.
100 percent different topic: Costco sells these cookies called Hello Panda Chocolate. They are these little chocolate cream filled nuggets, and let me tell you, they are fantastic. It's probably good that they come in little individual sized packages so I don't eat them all at once.
I have one of these packages in my desk right now. They are amazing. We bought them on a whim for vacation snacks.
We went to Costco on Sunday with the sole plan of renewing our membership (it was on our way home from somewhere, and H wanted to order something online). We went without a list, which is, quite possibly, the stupidest thing I've ever done. $400 later...
I have one of these packages in my desk right now. They are amazing. We bought them on a whim for vacation snacks.
We went to Costco on Sunday with the sole plan of renewing our membership (it was on our way home from somewhere, and H wanted to order something online). We went without a list, which is, quite possibly, the stupidest thing I've ever done. $400 later...
We had to renew our membership a few months ago and wanted to get a cake for fathers day or something. DH wouldn't even let us get a cart to avoid that happening.
We still ended up getting two cakes and I think I got underwear and probably something else. It's dangerous.
I really need someone to create an adult version of the kid's clothing site Primary, where every item comes in the entire rainbow. All I want is one place where I can buy a bunch of leggings and dresses/tunic sweaters in the same cut but 20 different colors. I am tired of figuring out if a cut or pattern looks good on me. Why does this not exist? Basically I want to create a capsule wardrobe for myself, but I don't want to hunt down things that will all look together.
Ever have a strong desire to just throw out all your clothes and start from scratch? That's where I'm at. In related news, does anybody want to give me money for new clothes? LOL.
I really need someone to create an adult version of the kid's clothing site Primary, where every item comes in the entire rainbow. All I want is one place where I can buy a bunch of leggings and dresses/tunic sweaters in the same cut but 20 different colors. I am tired of figuring out if a cut or pattern looks good on me. Why does this not exist? Basically I want to create a capsule wardrobe for myself, but I don't want to hunt down things that will all look together.
Ever have a strong desire to just throw out all your clothes and start from scratch? That's where I'm at. In related news, does anybody want to give me money for new clothes? LOL.
I would like to enthusiastically cosign every goddamn thing you have said here. Especially the bit about primary.
This is why we both own 6 of the same lands end dress btw.
I really need someone to create an adult version of the kid's clothing site Primary, where every item comes in the entire rainbow. All I want is one place where I can buy a bunch of leggings and dresses/tunic sweaters in the same cut but 20 different colors. I am tired of figuring out if a cut or pattern looks good on me. Why does this not exist? Basically I want to create a capsule wardrobe for myself, but I don't want to hunt down things that will all look together.
Ever have a strong desire to just throw out all your clothes and start from scratch? That's where I'm at. In related news, does anybody want to give me money for new clothes? LOL.
Completely agree. I always see their stuff and wish I could buy it
Post by downtoearth on Aug 20, 2019 12:15:21 GMT -5
I just looked at my goals for the past year and yup... didn't do 3 of the 4 of them yet. I have about a month left to get those other 3 started and done, but that isn't feasible. I'm sick of having work goals - I think it's b/c I have hit a wall at my career too. I am a Senior technical person and I can't really move up unless I go into management, but being in a satellite office, I can't really do that as well and they keep advertising that you have to move to another state and be based out of the headquarters to have those jobs - NOPE. I have life goals and do well at my job and I'm competent and even pretty fantastic at some parts. However, I also recognize that I'll never meet a goal of having every timesheet in before it's late b/c of my brain chemistry and I'm ok with that, just need my company to understand that doing the work is way more interesting and doable than letting you know I was here doing it. I know... not management material, huh?
I read a great blog on how goals are stupid and habits/behavior focused changes are more intuitive for people - changing how you interact with your career is way more beneficial for you and your company than setting SMART crap goals for the sake of trying to track a metric. I think they looked at the SMART method and realized that it is too linear for most people - a more visionary type of application works best for more people where they envision where they might want to be or even just take a year to try to figure out what that vision is rather than achieve a goal. I think that is going to be my goal for next fiscal year... figure out where I see myself in 2 or 5 years and take the year to see if something speaks to me (career wise).
Via my brother my mom isn’t doing well. Apparently she’s having a bad reaction to blood pressure meds.
I have a pissed off bride. She wants a refund. They expected me to jump a curb in my bus. She and her wedding planner didn’t answer my questions about access before the wedding. It was awful and her email was full of false statements. Thankfully I have some receipts but damn I don’t want to deal with this.
I just looked at my goals for the past year and yup... didn't do 3 of the 4 of them yet. I have about a month left to get those other 3 started and done, but that isn't feasible. I'm sick of having work goals - I think it's b/c I have hit a wall at my career too. I am a Senior technical person and I can't really move up unless I go into management, but being in a satellite office, I can't really do that as well and they keep advertising that you have to move to another state and be based out of the headquarters to have those jobs - NOPE. I have life goals and do well at my job and I'm competent and even pretty fantastic at some parts. However, I also recognize that I'll never meet a goal of having every timesheet in before it's late b/c of my brain chemistry and I'm ok with that, just need my company to understand that doing the work is way more interesting and doable than letting you know I was here doing it. I know... not management material, huh?
I read a great blog on how goals are stupid and habits/behavior focused changes are more intuitive for people - changing how you interact with your career is way more beneficial for you and your company than setting SMART crap goals for the sake of trying to track a metric. I think they looked at the SMART method and realized that it is too linear for most people - a more visionary type of application works best for more people where they envision where they might want to be or even just take a year to try to figure out what that vision is rather than achieve a goal. I think that is going to be my goal for next fiscal year... figure out where I see myself in 2 or 5 years and take the year to see if something speaks to me (career wise).
Do you happen to have the link to that blog? I'd be interested in reading it.
I'm currently working on developing a training around SMART goals, lol. But it's not my idea and I think my department is open to other options...
I just looked at my goals for the past year and yup... didn't do 3 of the 4 of them yet. I have about a month left to get those other 3 started and done, but that isn't feasible. I'm sick of having work goals - I think it's b/c I have hit a wall at my career too. I am a Senior technical person and I can't really move up unless I go into management, but being in a satellite office, I can't really do that as well and they keep advertising that you have to move to another state and be based out of the headquarters to have those jobs - NOPE. I have life goals and do well at my job and I'm competent and even pretty fantastic at some parts. However, I also recognize that I'll never meet a goal of having every timesheet in before it's late b/c of my brain chemistry and I'm ok with that, just need my company to understand that doing the work is way more interesting and doable than letting you know I was here doing it. I know... not management material, huh?
I read a great blog on how goals are stupid and habits/behavior focused changes are more intuitive for people - changing how you interact with your career is way more beneficial for you and your company than setting SMART crap goals for the sake of trying to track a metric. I think they looked at the SMART method and realized that it is too linear for most people - a more visionary type of application works best for more people where they envision where they might want to be or even just take a year to try to figure out what that vision is rather than achieve a goal. I think that is going to be my goal for next fiscal year... figure out where I see myself in 2 or 5 years and take the year to see if something speaks to me (career wise).
Do you happen to have the link to that blog? I'd be interested in reading it.
I'm currently working on developing a training around SMART goals, lol. But it's not my idea and I think my department is open to other options...
None of these are it exactly - I can't find it now, but these embrace the same idea.
I really need someone to create an adult version of the kid's clothing site Primary, where every item comes in the entire rainbow. All I want is one place where I can buy a bunch of leggings and dresses/tunic sweaters in the same cut but 20 different colors. I am tired of figuring out if a cut or pattern looks good on me. Why does this not exist? Basically I want to create a capsule wardrobe for myself, but I don't want to hunt down things that will all look together.
Ever have a strong desire to just throw out all your clothes and start from scratch? That's where I'm at. In related news, does anybody want to give me money for new clothes? LOL.
Yes, please!
My attire is quite literally blue jeans, neutral colored shorts with elastic waistbands, and solid color t-shirts. I struggle to find decent shirts and would love a continuous source of shorts that fit me well.
We're in the final stages of prep for our next bike trip. Which starts and ends in Vermont, but includes a section in Canada. Because we're us, we've had a packing list in a Google sheet for months. Down to the GNATS ASS.
We were reviewing the list after a test overnight to see what we needed to change H suddenly made a weird face, wrote something down, and then handed me the laptop.
Passports. We seriously were going to forget passports. That would have been UGLY.
We're in the final stages of prep for our next bike trip. Which starts and ends in Vermont, but includes a section in Canada. Because we're us, we've had a packing list in a Google sheet for months. Down to the GNATS ASS.
We were reviewing the list after a test overnight to see what we needed to change H suddenly made a weird face, wrote something down, and then handed me the laptop.
Passports. We seriously were going to forget passports. That would have been UGLY.
I think of this scene from Absolutely Fabulous every time we travel internationally.
We're in the final stages of prep for our next bike trip. Which starts and ends in Vermont, but includes a section in Canada. Because we're us, we've had a packing list in a Google sheet for months. Down to the GNATS ASS.
We were reviewing the list after a test overnight to see what we needed to change H suddenly made a weird face, wrote something down, and then handed me the laptop.
Passports. We seriously were going to forget passports. That would have been UGLY.
I think of this scene from Absolutely Fabulous every time we travel internationally.
I have a pissed off bride. She wants a refund. They expected me to jump a curb in my bus. She and her wedding planner didn’t answer my questions about access before the wedding. It was awful and her email was full of false statements. Thankfully I have some receipts but damn I don’t want to deal with this.
It wasn't just any curb, either. She and her planner are being dumb.
Post by Velar Fricative on Aug 21, 2019 9:20:39 GMT -5
A few weeks ago I went to an urgent care place specializing in orthopedics and x-ray stuff because my foot is still killing me. X-ray showed no broken bones, but also not even a fracture. The pain is just as unbearable now as it was then, so I like to think that not exercising would have helped with that. I always wear supportive shoes too. So now I have to go get a referral for more x-rays and an MRI. My friend told me it was an MRI that caught a broken or fractured bone, not an x-ray. I really need this pain explained to me. Especially because we leave for our week-long trip to Quebec next week and expect to be walking a lot.
A few weeks ago I went to an urgent care place specializing in orthopedics and x-ray stuff because my foot is still killing me. X-ray showed no broken bones, but also not even a fracture. The pain is just as unbearable now as it was then, so I like to think that not exercising would have helped with that. I always wear supportive shoes too. So now I have to go get a referral for more x-rays and an MRI. My friend told me it was an MRI that caught a broken or fractured bone, not an x-ray. I really need this pain explained to me. Especially because we leave for our week-long trip to Quebec next week and expect to be walking a lot.
X-rays catch ordinary fractures. But stress fractures and lots of different soft tissue injuries generally require an MRI. There are a lot of things other than a fracture that could explain your pain. Hopefully an MRI will get you on the path to feeling better!
A few weeks ago I went to an urgent care place specializing in orthopedics and x-ray stuff because my foot is still killing me. X-ray showed no broken bones, but also not even a fracture. The pain is just as unbearable now as it was then, so I like to think that not exercising would have helped with that. I always wear supportive shoes too. So now I have to go get a referral for more x-rays and an MRI. My friend told me it was an MRI that caught a broken or fractured bone, not an x-ray. I really need this pain explained to me. Especially because we leave for our week-long trip to Quebec next week and expect to be walking a lot.
X-rays catch ordinary fractures. But stress fractures and lots of different soft tissue injuries generally require an MRI. There are a lot of things other than a fracture that could explain your pain. Hopefully an MRI will get you on the path to feeling better!
Yeah, when I had stress fractures while running, I couldn't remember if x-rays or MRIs caught them (so long ago, sigh). But also with that experience (and my more recent experience with plantar fasciitis), I could tell *something* is wrong given the sharpness and the small size and easily-pinpointed location of the area affected. I also injured it in the dumbest way possible - during Zumba class. I am so uncoordinated.
I'm just glad at least an MRI will likely put these questions to rest.