Work WWYD-perception

[flygirl]

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[madringal]

"Sure, no problem. Go ahead and send it to me, and I can work on it when I begin at 6:30 am tomorrow morning."

[SusanBAnthony]

Ugh.

This stuff stinks. I start early too, and by 4 I am mentally done.

No great ideas other than to communicate to them that you could potentially take on a task but that you would do it at 6:30 the next morning. But that doesn't really work if you are swamped too.

[sunnysally]

I would tell them you start at 6:30am and say no. If your boss knows that's all that matters.

[candreco]

I'd tell them you've been at it since 6:30am and are pretty fried, and don't think you'd be able to offer much help.

[litskispeciality]

Oct 4, 2019 11:46:59 GMT -5 sunnysally said:

I would tell them you start at 6:30am and say no. If your boss knows that's all that matters.

And while this shouldn't matter, it should hopefully close some of the "why does she get to 'leave' at 4pm?" comments because they know you work a different schedule, although let your boss know because then they'll get questions how others can start working at 6:30am? Sorry you're dealing with this.

[jigsy]

For me, I guess it would depend on what the expectation is for your company. For where I work, if I could do the work, and it needed to be done that day, than I would do it. Like, for example, We were undergoing some due diligence for a potential joint venture. We had to get certain things over to legal, so it was expected that you just do the work if you could. I don't personally want my co-workers to track my time worked, so I don't track theirs. Yes, it is frustrating when I am putting in more hours than Joe, because he rolled in at 10am while I was here at 8am, but I also will also flex my time as needed, and I wouldn't like if Joe was holding that against me.

Now, if these are tasks that aren't necessarily time sensitive and it doesn't matter if it gets done today or tomorrow, than you should feel no guilt when you don't help your co-workers, because they should be able to manage their workload or time better if they don't want to be staying late.

Basically, I am a team player when it is required, but I won't pick up someones slack just to make their day shorter.

[wambam]

Oct 4, 2019 11:46:15 GMT -5 madringal said:

"Sure, no problem. Go ahead and send it to me, and I can work on it when I begin at 6:30 am tomorrow morning."

This. 

I am also an early morning person and I'm nearly always the first one out in the afternoon. 

[cjcouple]

"Sorry, I start work at 6:30 so I don't have to work that late. You should try it, you actually might find it works better for you"

ETA: I also would not be offering to do 'their' work at 6:30 either. They are free to start their work hours earlier if they like.   

[pandora89]

I would say something like "I have been working till 6:30 so I am so fried, sorry!"

[redheadk]

"Unfortunately, I can't work that late so I start working at 6:30am every day to be sure that I'm pulling my weight. It's quiet and I can get a lot done so you might want to consider it if you think it would work better for you, too."

[steph96]

I wouldn’t say anything along the lines of “maybe you should start your day earlier too”. It just seems kind of self righteous anytime someone says that to me.

I would just say “I’ve already put in x hours today so I’m wiped out”

[ChillyMcFreeze]

I agree with steph96 not to suggest how anyone else structure their day. I think a variation on what redheadk wrote would be good. "To make sure I have family time (or whatever) in the evenings, I get started at 6:30 so I'm pulling my weight earlier in the day. That way my day ends a little earlier than those who start at 9. Sorry!"

[Leeham Rimes]

I’d say, brightly: “If you don’t like working late, you can start early like me. I start at 6:30 am so I’m finished at a decent hour. I feel ya on not wanting to be here til 8!

[cleo29]

i think i would tell them something to the effect that you are putting in the same hours, just starting earlier so by the time they want help, you are pretty much done. and you are not putting your work on them even though you feel pretty fried by the end of the day.

Also,I feel like that is a shitty thing to ask of you considering everyone is in the same boat. It is not like you are starting at 9 and stopping well before everyone else just because you don't want to continue.

[lust2hart]

I would say, "Sorry, I've already put in 10 hours and need to get home!"

[whattheheck]

Is "I can't tonight, but let's work on it together at 630 am tomorrow" an option?

[thelurkylulu]

Could we please stop saying “sorry” in the workplace for things that we shouldn’t have to apologize for? I would say I’ve already put in my hours for the day and am going home to my family.

Women need to stop apologizing all the damn time. Your taking advantage of a flex schedule that your employer allows. You have nothing to be sorry for.

[litskispeciality]

Oct 4, 2019 15:39:04 GMT -5 whattheheck said:

Is "I can't tonight, but let's work on it together at 630 am tomorrow" an option?

I like ghis a lot better than go into work at 630am like me. The other way looks like shaming as if going in early is thr only option. I know OP didn't mean that, but not everyone can function at that hour, or has child care, transportation etc which is why they work yhe "later/normal" shift. Again I think its people assuming OP has less to do thats how they're done early. They're just tired and frustrated and the grass is looking greener. While some people slack during the day I guarantee you a lot of people dont drag their feet because they want to work until 7pm. Perhaps their manager could help them review their day to be more efficient, but if its like my last job they have too much to do, which is OP's problem in the first place.

Hopefully they people working until 7 can also work from home, aounds like they might get done earlier that way with less distractions.

[jennysmitten]

Oct 4, 2019 15:49:44 GMT -5 thelurkylulu said:

Could we please stop saying “sorry” in the workplace for things that we shouldn’t have to apologize for? I would say I’ve already put in my hours for the day and am going home to my family.

Women need to stop apologizing all the damn time. Your taking advantage of a flex schedule that your employer allows. You have nothing to be sorry for.

YES.

[flygirl]

Oct 4, 2019 15:49:44 GMT -5 thelurkylulu said:

Could we please stop saying “sorry” in the workplace for things that we shouldn’t have to apologize for? I would say I’ve already put in my hours for the day and am going home to my family.

Women need to stop apologizing all the damn time. Your taking advantage of a flex schedule that your employer allows. You have nothing to be sorry for.

This is a good point, I try not to say “sorry” but I find myself explaining what I need to get done and I should be able to just say no right?  Also, anyone can work the same hours as I do-our company is flexible that way.  Most of my teammates are not morning people so that’s why they start later.  I don’t have any issue with that, it just assuming I have time because my work list looks better at 4 than theirs.  I do help when I have time-but I am not working late when I’ve already worked 10+ hrs.

[dexteroni]

When you say they act like you're not a team player, what specifically are they saying or doing? If they say "well you're leaving at 5:30 and I have to stay until 8" then I would say "but I started at 6:30. I don't blame you for not wanting to work until 8 pm; I don't either. I start earlier so I can stop earlier." That way you aren't telling them how they should structure their day, you're just explaining your day.

If they say "well everyone has to pull their weight" then say something like "I am pulling my weight; I work from 6:30 am - 5:30 pm. I'm working 11 hour days just like everyone else, just in a slightly different start and stop times."

[litskispeciality]

Oct 4, 2019 16:10:54 GMT -5 flygirl said:

Oct 4, 2019 15:49:44 GMT -5 thelurkylulu said:

Could we please stop saying “sorry” in the workplace for things that we shouldn’t have to apologize for? I would say I’ve already put in my hours for the day and am going home to my family.

Women need to stop apologizing all the damn time. Your taking advantage of a flex schedule that your employer allows. You have nothing to be sorry for.

This is a good point, I try not to say “sorry” but I find myself explaining what I need to get done and I should be able to just say no right?  Also, anyone can work the same hours as I do-our company is flexible that way.  Most of my teammates are not morning people so that’s why they start later.  I don’t have any issue with that, it just assuming I have time because my work list looks better at 4 than theirs.  I do help when I have time-but I am not working late when I’ve already worked 10+ hrs.

And you shouldn't have too, nor should anyone be able to know your hours. Sadly I think addressing in a nice way that you're not doing any less work or hours, just working different hours *should* help. Who knows maybe someone else will work the earlier hours and find the same issue.

[Nonny]

"No, I can't help with that. We're all working 10-12 hour days, my long day just happens to start at 6:30 am.  If I stayed any longer, I'd be working 15 hour days and that just isn't feasible."

Does your job always have long hours like this, or is this a new situation?

[flygirl]

Oct 4, 2019 16:15:54 GMT -5 Nonny said:

"No, I can't help with that. We're all working 10-12 hour days, my long day just happens to start at 6:30 am.  If I stayed any longer, I'd be working 15 hour days and that just isn't feasible."

Does your job always have long hours like this, or is this a new situation?

It’s normal for a few months but this year has been an unusually long period of time-although i helped on a special issue so mine has been even longer and no one seemed to care then. Lol! We have hired but it will take time to get them up to speed.

ETA-I guess the take away is that I’m burnt out right now and it’s starting to make me crabby and I hate when other people are crabby at me for something out of my control.

[gault]

Is your schedule noted in outlook? As in, it's in the calendar with shaded and unshaded hours marked?

I'd say "my schedule opens at 6:30 every morning, feel free to come in at that time and we can look at it together. My calendar is up to date."

It might shut them up. They might decide to be assholes and set up a meeting invite for 7pm anyway, but you can decline it.

[thebreakfastclub]

I'd just say "I'm flexing my schedule to put in the overtime hours early in the morning." Leave it at that.

[lemoncupcake]

Oct 4, 2019 17:10:34 GMT -5 thebreakfastclub said:

I'd just say "I'm flexing my schedule to put in the overtime hours early in the morning." Leave it at that.

Yep -“I’m working my overtime in early mornings” and then offer to work on something the next morning if you can/need to. Don’t apologize, don’t recommend that they adjust their schedule.

[gibbinator]

I have similar a situation where I work at home at start at 7:30am (my time, 6:30am their time) whereas the rest of the office starts at 9:30am or 10am my time. I'm done at 3:30pm their time.
So very often around 3:15pm I'd be wrapping up my work, and I'd get a Skype notification that there was some urgent project that came up and could I do it today.
I would just say yes or no based on how quick the work was or whether I could squeeze in something short and postpone the last of today's work for tomorrow. Whether yes or no, I'd stick in a quick "fyi, my work hours are 6:30-3:30 your time" and eventually all the project managers figured it out. It's really rare now that these urgent end of day requests come my way

[ECB]

Oct 4, 2019 16:12:25 GMT -5 dexteroni said:

When you say they act like you're not a team player, what specifically are they saying or doing? If they say "well you're leaving at 5:30 and I have to stay until 8" then I would say "but I started at 6:30. I don't blame you for not wanting to work until 8 pm; I don't either. I start earlier so I can stop earlier." That way you aren't telling them how they should structure their day, you're just explaining your day.

If they say "well everyone has to pull their weight" then say something like "I am pulling my weight; I work from 6:30 am - 5:30 pm. I'm working 11 hour days just like everyone else, just in a slightly different start and stop times."

Ditto all this.

DO NOT suggest they start earlier, or offer to work with them at 6:30.  All that just sounds... as said, self righteous.  They may have their reasons for not starting early.