Weekend 45 chaos

[pitta12]

Rick Perry, under the bus you go. 45 blamed him for the Ukraine call on a call with House Rs and said Perry made him do it. LOL

www.axios.com/trump-blamed-rick-perry-call-ukraine-zelensky-8178447a-0374-4ac6-b321-a9454b0565d4.html

[simpsongal]

Lol why would ANYONE think they could be spared from his wrath?

Also lol that trump thinks the defense that “it was Perry’s idea” would remove any culpability from himself.

How does the timing on this line up with Perry’s announced resignation? Convenient fall guy?

[pitta12]

Oct 5, 2019 17:09:19 GMT -5 simpsongal said:

Lol why would ANYONE think they could be spared from his wrath?

Also lol that trump thinks the defense that “it was his idea” would remove any culpability from himself.

How does the timing on this line up with Perry’s announced resignation?

I’ve always wondered why these fools think 45 is going to help them out ever. There is no chance that he’d risk anything for their benefit. He gives no shits about anyone but himself and Vladimir Putin.

[Jalapeñomel]

Its hard to imagine going through life blaming everything on other people. But I guess if it’s always worked, then why not?

[Velar Fricative]

A perfect call wasn’t his perfect idea???

[bimbi284]

Somebody put a nerdy kid filter on a trump clip and it’s amazing.

http://instagram.com/p/B3MHGmQjFzd

[bimbi284]

Oct 5, 2019 22:32:25 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

Somebody put a nerdy kid filter on a trump clip and it’s amazing.

http://instagr.am/p/B3MHGmQjFzd

ETA not sure how to share a vid from insta, but the account is @tompainetoday

[basilosaurus]

I can't vouch for this, but it was posted by someone I respect. It's a weekly webinar that gets into the nitty gritty of impeachment. Apparently they're on week 6. Next session is on Monday, October 7 at 8:30 PM ET / 5:30 PM PT

www.impeachmentuniversity.com

They also are on facebook.

[mbcdefg]

The attorney representing the whistleblower who sounded the alarm on Trump's dealings with Ukraine tells ABC News that he is now representing a second whistleblower who has spoken with the inspector general.


abcnews.go.com/Politics/2nd-whistleblower-forward-speaking-ig-attorney/story?id=66092396

[Jalapeñomel]

Another night, another whistleblower. I also heard it’s an ABC conspiracy. 🤣🤣🤣


I was also told that the transcript exonerates Trump, so these whistleblowers are just drummed up by the Democrats to spread further lies about the president.

[anodyne]

Linked article:
www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/10/05/judge-trump-records-foreign-leaders-031255?__twitter_impression=true

NEW: Judge orders WH to preserve records of Trump dealings w/foreign leaders. Notable because she could've just accepted DOJ pledge that WH would. Also because an injunction applied to the president is exceptionally rare t.co/lz5G6K10Hv

[cattledogkisses]

Oct 6, 2019 8:16:55 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Another night, another whistleblower. I also heard it’s an ABC conspiracy. 🤣🤣🤣


I was also told that the transcript exonerates Trump, so these whistleblowers are just drummed up by the Democrats to spread further lies about the president.

I am loosely acquainted with a BSC Trumper who insists that this is all a distraction tactic by the Democrats because Obama is about to be charged with treason. 

This is why I said in the other thread that you can't have a discussion with these people.  They don't live in reality.  And they don't want to.

[madisen]

Here's a link to last night's SNL cold open with guest Matthew Broderick as Pompeo and nice little throwbacks to FBDO...the only thing keeping us sane lol:

www.yahoo.com/entertainment/snl-matthew-broderick-plays-mike-034942289.html

[TR]

Oct 5, 2019 22:32:25 GMT -5 bimbi284 said:

Somebody put a nerdy kid filter on a trump clip and it’s amazing.

http://instagr.am/p/B3MHGmQjFzd

This may be the only way I can listen to him speak for more than 2 seconds.

[WOT?*]

Trump's response is typically...Trumpian. "The first so-called second-hand information 'Whistleblower' got my phone conversation almost completely wrong, so now word is they are going to the bench and another 'Whistleblower' is coming in from the Deep State, also with second-hand info. Meet with Shifty. Keep them coming." re: the Whistleblowers. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/2nd-whistleblower-comes-forward-after-speaking-with-ig-attorney/ar-AAIlO8i?ocid=spartandhp

And people actually *believe* this shifty con man.

[Jalapeñomel]

Oct 6, 2019 13:16:59 GMT -5 WOT?* said:

Trump's response is typically...Trumpian. "The first so-called second-hand information 'Whistleblower' got my phone conversation almost completely wrong, so now word is they are going to the bench and another 'Whistleblower' is coming in from the Deep State, also with second-hand info. Meet with Shifty. Keep them coming." re: the Whistleblowers. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/2nd-whistleblower-comes-forward-after-speaking-with-ig-attorney/ar-AAIlO8i?ocid=spartandhp

And people actually *believe* this shifty con man.

A lot of people believe him.

[basilosaurus]

I don't really know where to put this. On Amazon, "circle meme socks." About 20 version of the in no way defensible "ok" sign.

www.amazon.com/Balanced-Co-Circle-Casual-Cotton/dp/B07CRCR8QF/ref=sxin_4_ac_d_rm?ac_md=0-0-ZnVuIG1lbidzIHNvY2tz-ac_d_rm&keywords=fun+men%27s+socks&pd_rd_i=B07CRCR8QF&pd_rd_r=633bd697-8616-4a47-bff6-f5b78a998ad4&pd_rd_w=TM3fg&pd_rd_wg=BWZZM&pf_rd_p=983984df-2ad2-4c97-ba7f-4c5a90291c2b&pf_rd_r=4SM718P4ZDNAQCC19KSW&psc=1&qid=1570390822

[WOT?*]

Oct 6, 2019 14:43:34 GMT -5 basilosaurus said:

I don't really know where to put this. On Amazon, "circle meme socks." About 20 version of the in no way defensible "ok" sign.

www.amazon.com/Balanced-Co-Circle-Casual-Cotton/dp/B07CRCR8QF/ref=sxin_4_ac_d_rm?ac_md=0-0-ZnVuIG1lbidzIHNvY2tz-ac_d_rm&keywords=fun+men%27s+socks&pd_rd_i=B07CRCR8QF&pd_rd_r=633bd697-8616-4a47-bff6-f5b78a998ad4&pd_rd_w=TM3fg&pd_rd_wg=BWZZM&pf_rd_p=983984df-2ad2-4c97-ba7f-4c5a90291c2b&pf_rd_r=4SM718P4ZDNAQCC19KSW&psc=1&qid=1570390822

I contacted Amazon via chat.

[basilosaurus]

Thanks to you, WOT?*, I also contacted by chat. I wouldn't have thought to do so. The first response was "we understand some things are offensive in a location or a group." No, I already provided links from ADL for source and BBC to show it's not local.

[kilgrave]

COLIN POWELL SAYS DONALD TRUMP HAS TURNED AMERICA FROM 'WE THE PEOPLE' TO 'ME THE PRESIDENT'

Former U.S. Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright both questioned the dramatic negative effects the Trump administration has had on the United States and its people.

Speaking with CNN's Fareed Zakaria on October 7, Powell criticized Trump's various attacks on the news media, close U.S. allies and even the country's own citizens. Powell lamented that his three favorite words in the U.S. Constitution had long been "We the people," but Trump's short time in office has morphed the famous founding fathers' line into "me the president."

"You see things that should not be happening," Powell told Zakaria. "How can a president of the United States get up and say that the media is the enemy of Americans? Hasn't he read the First Amendment? You are not supposed to like everything the press says, or what anyone says…that's why we have a First Amendment, to protect that kind of speech."

Powell reiterated why he became a voice against a Trump presidency during the 2016 campaign.

"I hope the president can come to the realization that he should really stop insulting people," Powell continued. "I used this two years ago when I said I could not vote for him in the 2016 election. Why? He insulted everybody. He insulted African-Americans, he insulted women, he insulted immigrants. He insulted our best friends around the world—all of his fellow candidates up on the stage during the debates. I don't think that's what should be coming out of a president of the United States. But I don't see anything that's changed in the last two years."



www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-donald-trump-america-we-people-madeleine-albright-constitution-1157119

[WOT?*]

Oct 6, 2019 16:00:55 GMT -5 kilgrave said:

COLIN POWELL SAYS DONALD TRUMP HAS TURNED AMERICA FROM 'WE THE PEOPLE' TO 'ME THE PRESIDENT'

Former U.S. Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Madeleine Albright both questioned the dramatic negative effects the Trump administration has had on the United States and its people.

Speaking with CNN's Fareed Zakaria on October 7, Powell criticized Trump's various attacks on the news media, close U.S. allies and even the country's own citizens. Powell lamented that his three favorite words in the U.S. Constitution had long been "We the people," but Trump's short time in office has morphed the famous founding fathers' line into "me the president."

"You see things that should not be happening," Powell told Zakaria. "How can a president of the United States get up and say that the media is the enemy of Americans? Hasn't he read the First Amendment? You are not supposed to like everything the press says, or what anyone says…that's why we have a First Amendment, to protect that kind of speech."

Powell reiterated why he became a voice against a Trump presidency during the 2016 campaign.

"I hope the president can come to the realization that he should really stop insulting people," Powell continued. "I used this two years ago when I said I could not vote for him in the 2016 election. Why? He insulted everybody. He insulted African-Americans, he insulted women, he insulted immigrants. He insulted our best friends around the world—all of his fellow candidates up on the stage during the debates. I don't think that's what should be coming out of a president of the United States. But I don't see anything that's changed in the last two years."



www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-donald-trump-america-we-people-madeleine-albright-constitution-1157119

I do wish he or someone of his caliber on the R side would step up to run against Trump. In particular with Powell (or maybe Condoleeza Rice, another big name respected and well-resumed Republican that could actually likely draw Independents and maybe even some "disgusted Dems" out to vote) it would be a serious battle for the soul of the party; such a face-off could start to mend or absolutely break the party. Any supposedly vocal anti-Trump Republican should out-and-out support a somewhat "moderate" voice of the party for the nomination.

[msmerymac]

WOT?* supposedly Romney is secretly researching the feasibility of a run.

Did anyone see Sen. Ron Johnson on Meet the Press? Holy shit. He went off on how Dems have had it out for Trump since the beginning and didn’t even allow him a honeymoon period, then tried to bring up that FBI text message conspiracy with those people who were dating. WTF?

Chuck Todd was totally shaking up for the rest of the episode and even asked John Brennan about it. Like, WTF is up with the GOP these days?!

And speaking of meet the press, chuck todd has been... fine? Better? Lately. But like him or not, he is a journalist and MTP is a news magazine. I get so sick of conservatives coming on and making little digs at his credibility or implying “the media” is against them. This is a democracy!!! Journalism is important.

[NewOrleans]

Oct 6, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

WOT?* supposedly Romney is secretly researching the feasibility of a run.

Fucking goody! I can’t WAIT to hear people talk about how moderate he is again. 

[Michelle]

Oct 6, 2019 10:56:57 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

Oct 6, 2019 8:16:55 GMT -5 Jalapeñomel said:

Another night, another whistleblower. I also heard it’s an ABC conspiracy. 🤣🤣🤣


I was also told that the transcript exonerates Trump, so these whistleblowers are just drummed up by the Democrats to spread further lies about the president.

I am loosely acquainted with a BSC Trumper who insists that this is all a distraction tactic by the Democrats because Obama is about to be charged with treason. 

This is why I said in the other thread that you can't have a discussion with these people.  They don't live in reality.  And they don't want to.

I have silenced the trumpians I know. On what grounds would Obama be charged with treason, in BSC world?

[basilosaurus]

Oct 6, 2019 19:24:41 GMT -5 Michelle said:

Oct 6, 2019 10:56:57 GMT -5 cattledogkisses said:

I am loosely acquainted with a BSC Trumper who insists that this is all a distraction tactic by the Democrats because Obama is about to be charged with treason. 

This is why I said in the other thread that you can't have a discussion with these people.  They don't live in reality.  And they don't want to.

I have silenced the trumpians I know. On what grounds would Obama be charged with treason, in BSC world?

In the Constitution he doesn't count as a person therefore is ineligible to run. I'm joking, but I wouldn't put it past some nutbars to go along those lines with a thin veneer for cover. Like the birther nonsense.

[scout8]

Oct 6, 2019 19:05:53 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Oct 6, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

WOT?* supposedly Romney is secretly researching the feasibility of a run.

Fucking goody! I can’t WAIT to hear people talk about how moderate he is again. 

But how are we defining moderate? By current GOP standards? Or, by the Republican party of 10 years ago. To me that makes a difference. Looking at the current state of the party, he is moderate. 

[pitta12]

Oct 6, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

WOT?* supposedly Romney is secretly researching the feasibility of a run.

Did anyone see Sen. Ron Johnson on Meet the Press? Holy shit. He went off on how Dems have had it out for Trump since the beginning and didn’t even allow him a honeymoon period, then tried to bring up that FBI text message conspiracy with those people who were dating. WTF?

Chuck Todd was totally shaking up for the rest of the episode and even asked John Brennan about it. Like, WTF is up with the GOP these days?!

And speaking of meet the press, chuck todd has been... fine? Better? Lately. But like him or not, he is a journalist and MTP is a news magazine. I get so sick of conservatives coming on and making little digs at his credibility or implying “the media” is against them. This is a democracy!!! Journalism is important.

I agree Chuck Todd has been less awful lately. I find it confusing because usually he’s the worst. Seems like he is waking up to the fact that all of this is a bit more serious than his “Dems in disarray” theme gives credence to.

But yeah, Johnson looked ridiculous, at least to humans who live in a factual world.

[basilosaurus]

Oct 6, 2019 19:38:45 GMT -5 scout8 said:

Oct 6, 2019 19:05:53 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Fucking goody! I can’t WAIT to hear people talk about how moderate he is again. 

But how are we defining moderate? By current GOP standards? Or, by the Republican party of 10 years ago. To me that makes a difference. Looking at the current state of the party, he is moderate. 

Is he anti-choice? Yes. Then he's not a moderate. That's my baseline.

[cous0226]

Where has it been reported about Romney? I want to get excited that there’s a real challenger but I’ve not seen it.

[WOT?*]

Oct 6, 2019 18:53:58 GMT -5 msmerymac said:

WOT?* supposedly Romney is secretly researching the feasibility of a run.

Romney isn't a challenge in the world of Trumpian/McConnell/Graham/AllTheNutbags world. They need someone polarizing and Romney just isn't. Someone who's name will resonate with R's who want a new direction. The reason they voted for Trump but now don't like what they're seeing. Powell is military, Secretary of State, respectful and respectable and respected. Similar with Condi Rice. Get one of them or someone like them on the ballot. Get someone Republicans (and independents and others) have had people clamoring to run but who haven't wanted the responsibility of the office, who now see it as a necessary evil to get Trump out and Republicans back on a more even keel. Romney just isn't a person people would run to the polls to vote for. BTDT. He can research feasibility all he wants; he won't win over Trump voters or even all that many Never-Trumpers.