Almond Milk: Like Sending Bees to War

[TR]

Kind of off-topic, but nospaekae have you seen the documentary Honeyland?

[nospaekae]

Jan 9, 2020 20:16:42 GMT -5 TR said:

Kind of off-topic, but nospaekae have you seen the documentary Honeyland?

I haven't but I've heard a lot of chatter about it so it's on my list. Do you know if it is streaming anywhere?

[TR]

Jan 9, 2020 20:23:27 GMT -5 nospaekae said:

Jan 9, 2020 20:16:42 GMT -5 TR said:

Kind of off-topic, but nospaekae have you seen the documentary Honeyland?

I haven't but I've heard a lot of chatter about it so it's on my list. Do you know if it is streaming anywhere?

We rented it on Amazon Prime. It was really beautiful.

[nospaekae]

Jan 9, 2020 20:24:11 GMT -5 TR said:

Jan 9, 2020 20:23:27 GMT -5 nospaekae said:

We rented it on Amazon Prime. It was really beautiful.

Thanks! I will have to check it out. The old ways of beekeeping are amazing and probably the way we should all still be doing it.

[basilosaurus]

Jan 9, 2020 15:04:36 GMT -5 amberlyrose said:

So, coconut milk and oat milk are still ok?

I have issues with cow's milk and too much soy. I mostly use coconut anyway, but I do try to be as environmentally friendly as I can.

Generally speaking, palm/coconut oil are pretty awful for the earth and the body. I love coconut water, but I still limit consumption due to environmental impact.

[TR]

Jan 10, 2020 0:53:02 GMT -5 al dente said:

Jan 9, 2020 20:21:43 GMT -5 virginiaham said:

Same, we normally do unsweetened, no vanilla flavors. I'm seeing an unsweetened flax+protein by Good Karma available on Thrive Market, I'll have to see if I can find it in a store. It's appealing because the Vit D and calcium are higher in that than in coconut or almond, but that's useless if it doesn't taste good enough to consume. I appreciate the input!

And for people who can’t find it Oat milk is incredibly easy to make if you can’t find it in store. It’s literally just blended oats and milk. Minimalist Baker has a good recipe for it.

Honest question, what is the point of a milk alternative made with...milk?

PS - the word “milk” has lost all meaning. 

[icedcoffee]

Jan 10, 2020 9:23:06 GMT -5 TR said:

Jan 10, 2020 0:53:02 GMT -5 al dente said:

I got the Good Karma one once and it was ok. I’m not a huge alternative milk fan, and I didn’t like the texture of it it was kinda slimy? Idk how to describe it haha. My favorite alternative has been hemp milk. It’s thicker like regular milk but very mild flavored. Also the pea protein milk is very popular right now. I can’t remember the name but it’s in the refrigerated section.

And for people who can’t find it Oat milk is incredibly easy to make if you can’t find it in store. It’s literally just blended oats and milk. Minimalist Baker has a good recipe for it.

Honest question, what is the point of a milk alternative made with...milk?

PS - the word “milk” has lost all meaning. 

In my house we call oats with milk a bowl of cereal.  LOL

[wanderingback]

Jan 10, 2020 9:23:06 GMT -5 TR said:

Jan 10, 2020 0:53:02 GMT -5 al dente said:

I got the Good Karma one once and it was ok. I’m not a huge alternative milk fan, and I didn’t like the texture of it it was kinda slimy? Idk how to describe it haha. My favorite alternative has been hemp milk. It’s thicker like regular milk but very mild flavored. Also the pea protein milk is very popular right now. I can’t remember the name but it’s in the refrigerated section.

And for people who can’t find it Oat milk is incredibly easy to make if you can’t find it in store. It’s literally just blended oats and milk. Minimalist Baker has a good recipe for it.

Honest question, what is the point of a milk alternative made with...milk?

PS - the word “milk” has lost all meaning. 

Maybe that’s a typo. All the recipes I know for oat milk are oats and water. I mean I guess yes you could do oats and milk, but like you said the reason it’s become popular is because it’s another non-dairy/vegan option.

[TR]

Jan 10, 2020 9:26:25 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Jan 10, 2020 9:23:06 GMT -5 TR said:

Honest question, what is the point of a milk alternative made with...milk?

PS - the word “milk” has lost all meaning. 

Maybe that’s a typo. All the recipes I know for oat milk are oats and water. I mean I guess yes you could do oats and milk, but like you said the reason it’s become popular is because it’s another non-dairy/vegan option.

Ah ok. Yes, that would make more sense. I thought maybe there was another reason to do a “mostly oat milk” lol. 

[wanderingback]

Jan 9, 2020 13:45:17 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

I feel like we've always known almond milk is terrible for the environment, no? I feel like I knew like 10 years ago that it takes an insane amount of water to grow almonds. Vegans don't want to believe it though.

Maybe I made this up. My memory is shit.

Nope I had no idea almonds were bad for the environment.
I really am not up to date on the environmental impacts of nuts in general.
I’ve heard the most talk recently about animals being bad for the environment and a little bit of talk about cheese taking a lot of water to make, but never heard much about the negative environmental impact about fruits, veggies, nuts.

[carmenere]

Jan 10, 2020 9:32:35 GMT -5 wanderingback said:

Jan 9, 2020 13:45:17 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

I feel like we've always known almond milk is terrible for the environment, no? I feel like I knew like 10 years ago that it takes an insane amount of water to grow almonds. Vegans don't want to believe it though.

Maybe I made this up. My memory is shit.

Nope I had no idea almonds were bad for the environment.
I really am not up to date on the environmental impacts of nuts in general.
I’ve heard the most talk recently about animals being bad for the environment and a little bit of talk about cheese taking a lot of water to make, but never heard much about the negative environmental impact about fruits, veggies, nuts.

Same. I've switched to almond milk assuming it had a lesser environmental impact than dairy; I didn't give much thought to the water, let alone the pollinators. Unfortunately I think all profit-driven, large-scale agriculture is unsustainable in some regard. We're just doing the best we can to choose the lesser of the evils but the number of variables to consider is overwhelming.

[lilles]

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking oatmeal milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

ETA: I fixed my post I meant oatmeal milk. That’s why I said it was all the rage because it’s gotten more popular in the last year

[rebneen]

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

Did you read the article? Or the thread? This is weird.

[icedcoffee]

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

Yeah--fuck the environment and the bees.  Almond milk is delish!  

[wambam]

All I can think about is Chidi from The Good Place.

We use almond milk for the rare occasion we need something milk-like. We don't drink milk, so it's just for baking and oatmeal and stuff. My husband is allergic to most milk alternatives.

[pixy0stix]

Jan 9, 2020 16:17:10 GMT -5 nospaekae said:

Jan 9, 2020 15:51:38 GMT -5 Patsy Baloney said:

Give me the confidence of someone posting, "Killer bees are thriving," and not in a "run away and scream" type of way 

nospaekae , thanks for posting your experience. Do you know why you recently lost your hive?

I think my queen died in late fall while during a final mite treatment. There was evidence in the hive that they were trying to make a new queen, but I think it was just too late in the season for them. The mite treatments can be tough on bees, but the alternative is worse.

We think this is exactly what happened to our hive. We're going with a different type of bees this spring.

[pixy0stix]

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

LOL! Good luck continuing to be a vegan if you want almond milk to stay.

[lilles]

Jan 10, 2020 13:06:37 GMT -5 rebneen said:

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

Did you read the article? Or the thread? This is weird.

I meant oatmeal!!! Face plant

[lilles]

Jan 10, 2020 16:32:30 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

LOL! Good luck continuing to be a vegan if you want almond milk to stay.

I meant oatmeal!!

[lilles]

Jan 10, 2020 13:14:18 GMT -5 icedcoffee said:

Jan 10, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5 lilles said:

I’m vegan and I’m only drinking almond milk. It’s my favorite of all the plant alternatives. I know it’s all the rage now but I’m hoping it’s here to stay.

Yeah--fuck the environment and the bees.  Almond milk is delish!  

I meant oatmeal milk!!!

[gastro]

I prefer oat milk to almond. I also like pea protein milk (Ripple brand). My endocrinologist told me not to drink almond milk (even unsweetened) for my regulating my blood sugars when I had GD.