My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
Safe for your kids or safe for the adults?
I’d argue that overall, considering the risks and consequences involved, it’s something I would be comfortable doing. But of course “safe” is a loaded term since there is still risk there.
I’m on 2 hours of sleep because of a sick baby, but can someone help me out with this? DD’s 5th birthday is in March. DH and I are at the back of the line for vaccines and probably won’t get them until July. My ILs will be fully vaccinated by then. ILs live a 12 hour drive from us, so just having them visit masked and distanced outdoors isn’t an option.
They want to come to visit for DD’s birthday. Is that a safe idea?
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
This is my plan. Once my parents are fully vaccinated I plan on letting my kids visit them. I won’t visit until I’m fully vaccinated. I know there is risk but it could be years until my kids get vaccinated. My parents are eager and willing to see them even before they are fully vaccinated (we said no), but once they are.... 🤷♀️ (Unless you all convince me otherwise).
I’m on 2 hours of sleep because of a sick baby, but can someone help me out with this? DD’s 5th birthday is in March. DH and I are at the back of the line for vaccines and probably won’t get them until July. My ILs will be fully vaccinated by then. ILs live a 12 hour drive from us, so just having them visit masked and distanced outdoors isn’t an option.
They want to come to visit for DD’s birthday. Is that a safe idea?
Your parents can still carry the virus. Are you okay with that possibility with a baby in the house? That would be my test, and I would say no.
Can they stay in a hotel and then you guys do outdoor things?
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
Safe for your kids or safe for the adults?
I’d argue that overall, considering the risks and consequences involved, it’s something I would be comfortable doing. But of course “safe” is a loaded term since there is still risk there.
I don't even know . I miss my parents so much. I know everyone does, and if there is more risk than reward, of course we'll stay away until the balance turns.
I’d argue that overall, considering the risks and consequences involved, it’s something I would be comfortable doing. But of course “safe” is a loaded term since there is still risk there.
I don't even know . I miss my parents so much. I know everyone does, and if there is more risk than reward, of course we'll stay away until the balance turns.
I mean, I don’t *want* my kids to be exposed or get sick, but once all adults are vaccinated I won’t hold back on a situation like this. Maybe have everyone still wear masks if your kids are in a school/daycare setting (to minimize the chances of them contracting something and further spreading it).
I’m on 2 hours of sleep because of a sick baby, but can someone help me out with this? DD’s 5th birthday is in March. DH and I are at the back of the line for vaccines and probably won’t get them until July. My ILs will be fully vaccinated by then. ILs live a 12 hour drive from us, so just having them visit masked and distanced outdoors isn’t an option.
They want to come to visit for DD’s birthday. Is that a safe idea?
I think this will depend on what you mean by safe.
Will your parents possibly get seriously ill? Unlikely but remotely possible Will you/kids get ill if your parents are asymptomatic carriers? Possibly. This is where the science is very unclear. With a 12 hour drive you're also look at them stopping multiple times to gas up and use the bathroom so while they could reduce the risk of being a carrier by quarantining before they come they will be bridely exposed on their trip.
I'd probably err on not doing such a visit but we're very risk adverse, especially when it involves indoor visits. While I hope cases will be better in March they still maybe high. I do fully understand the pain of not seeing family. We're probably going to hit 2 full years without seeing my mom and we never went more than 6 months previously. The kids are changing fast and she is missing them but there is just nothing to be done.
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
We are planning to see my parents once all the adults in each household are fully vaccinated. I don't think there will be a universal answer to this because it will obviously involve some level of risk, but I think the risk is low enough that we will feel comfortable. My parents are old and I don't know how much longer they are going to be around for my kids to know them. I hope that more data will come out to show that the vaccine lowers transmission before this comes up.
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
This is what we're doing. I've had both doses and my husband and my parents have had one and are getting their second this weekend. Given that the vaccine hasn't even started to be tested on little kids, there's no way that's going to happen anytime soon. It's not zero risk but it's as low as the risk will get in the foreseeable future.
Once the adults are vaccinated we will absolutely be visiting the grandparents. We have already had this discussion. The grandparents do not want to be restricted from their grandchildren any longer. They are really struggling with the the lost year they have experienced. They are comfortable with the risk at that point.
Any I view the risk to my kids to be pretty small. Interacting with two vaccinated adults? I am absolutely okay with those risks.
Post by lemoncupcake on Feb 3, 2021 12:11:45 GMT -5
I think we all need to stop asking “is it safe” - unless you’re locked down 100% the answer is no. It’s a risk/benefit analysis every time:
- Risks of severe illness/death to the people directly involved - Risk of more minor illness to the people directly involved - unknown risk of long term effects to the people directly involved - Risks in spreading covid beyond the people directly involved (school classes, workplaces, other family/friends that you interact with) - Benefit of whatever you’re going
Because of all of those we haven’t done nearly any “social” activities this year. Once #1 is reduced because adults get vaccinated there is still minor risk for #2 and #3, and significant risk for #4 because they’re in daycare. Once there is mass adult vaccination I think that one will lower as well.
When my mom is fully vaccinated, we will lower our guard with her. Right now, only distance, outdoors, no food, etc. She will be two weeks out by her birthday and We plan to celebrate with outdoor dining (at someplace where they have two tables around the street corner separate from the rest of the diners - separate table for her but beside us so we can talk together easily).
MIL will want us to do short indoor masked visits instead of outdoor ones. We might agree.
So not dropping all precautions, but some. We are extra careful with both because of their age and are likely to shift the edges a bit.
Post by pinkplasticdoll on Feb 3, 2021 12:35:54 GMT -5
I am just here to say I am jealous and sad about those that are going to be able to visit family once all the adults are vaccinated. My ils have said they won't be getting the vaccine because they don't trust it, my mom is a immunocompromised nurse and won't be getting it until there is more data out about how immunocompromised individuals handle the vaccine (I get it but then in the same breath i don't understand her reason if that makes any sense), my siblings won't be getting it anytime soon because again they don't trust the vaccine. My dad is the only one who has received the vaccine and was the only one open to it without a second thought. Trying to talk to everyone who isn't getting it is like talking to a brick wall despite me explaining the science behind it all and working in the industry they still don't trust anything.so here we sit isolated and alone looking for jobs in other locations because there is no point in sticking around here for family if nobody will take appropriate measures to be safe. I realize that moving sounds extreme but we aren't like picking up and going but we are just more open to that idea than we were 18 months ago and wouldn't pass up the right opportunity if it came along. End rant.
We will resume normal behaviors with my MiL once she is fully vaccinated. I’m not as concerned about the risk to us as healthy adults or our children, our pressing concern has been for her as she is elderly. She has struggled greatly during the past year with the isolation and loneliness - so weighing things we feel we are ok with that decision.
My own parents are in Ireland so to see them will require flying to be safe and acceptable again, still hoping for some time in 2021.
My mother had said things months ago like “I don’t trust the vaccine if they get one!” etc. but she has changed her tune and now she and my father will be getting vaccinated as soon as they can.
My boys and I are all back in school. They are full time. I see my students twice a week in a pod of 10.
Once my parents AND I are vaccinated, is it safe to take the kids to see them? I honestly cannot figure out the answer to this, and I know my emotions are overriding any common sense.
I anticipate allowing my kid to see her grandparents 2 weeks after their second shots. They don't both become eligible until 2/21 though, so even if they get appointments right away, we are looking at 3/28 at the earliest. I know it's not *completely* without risk, but the other risk is that we are missing out on a lot of the rest of their elderly lives with these lockdowns, and that really breaks my heart. And it'll be by far the safest it has been in over a year.
I'm disinclined at this point to wait until I have my vaccine too, since I lack faith in that happening this year.
Once my MIL is vaccinated we will see her with no restrictions. For my mom and stepdad we will wait until DH and I get vaccinated as well though I hope to see my mom for outdoor visits more. They will both be fully vaccinated by next week but my MIL is still waiting for her first shot.
There are certain things we won't feel comfortable doing until DD is able to get vaccinated as well but seeing family isn't one of them. It feels so close and I can't wait.
Side note: I feel like I have typed vaccine 8 billion times in the past year. I still spell it wrong every single time. Apparently I never learn...
Post by BicycleBride on Feb 3, 2021 14:02:11 GMT -5
My sister is the clinical director of a microbiology lab and she sort of sets the rules out family uses because she has the education. What we’ve discussed is that once all the adults are vaccinated, we will eat outdoors as long as the kids are off playing and they and adults will be masked when they are near. We will also add indoor visiting where everyone is masked but no eating. We have been doing outdoor, masked, 10’ distanced visits since June with no eating.
I like reading about the how/why of others when they step outside of their risk bubble, so I'd thought I'd share my going to the dentist for the 1st time since the pandemic.
One of my fillings fell out of a molar, so I called the dentist and made an appointment for the next 1st appointment of the day. I had to wait 2 weeks, which wasn't too bad since I wasn't in pain. I was overdue for my biannual exam/cleaning, so that is what we did this visit. They will correct the filling at another visit - once again I scheduled for the 1st available 1st appt of the day - 5 weeks away. Annoying, but I think the risk is less than if I go into the office after another patient has already been seen that day.
The dentist office is a small office; 1 receptionist, 1 dental assistant, and 1 dentist. They only see one patient at a time, are open W-F for patient visits. They followed proper mask and ventilation standards, but it was still strange being in a building other than my home with my mouth wide open.
I'm probably going to be nervous for the next few days, in case there was some air transmission of COVID, but I think it was worth the risk.
And the part that makes this kid-related - I have a 6m son who hasn't been held by anyone besides H and myself, and the doctors & nurses at the hospital he was born and the clinic he has his wellness visits. It's so fucking sad. We (obviously) have made medical (and now dentist) visits a part of our risks.
Reading the PPs about family visits makes me tear up EVERY TIME. As of right now, I think I will let local family hold DS once they are vaccinated, while masked and outside. I pray this happens by the time DS turns 1 (July). My ILs live on the other side of the country, and with the long travel, I have no idea when they will meet their first grandchild.
I don't think I would let family hold DS if either H or I worked in an office (we're both WFH until who knows?) or if DS was in daycare (planning to keep him home while H and I are WFH as long as possible). The local family who would be vaccinated before H and I are all retired, and I think I'm okay with the risk to my household.
We have been weighing risk vs. benefit for the whole COVID time. MIL lives close, has a small bubble of people she comes into contact with (1-2 people), lives alone and has been keeping herself informed on all things COVID related. In the spring and early summer, we stayed outside and kept 6 feet apart. However, with 100% virtual school, she has been coming over 1 day a week to help my second graders stay on task and do their work (the other 4 days a week are less productive but they do attend online classes 5 days a week). Since she was already coming over 1x a week for school, she started asking if she could come over on Sundays for dinner. That's been our schedule since November. MIL is the only person outside of our immediate household who we come into frequent contact with and have let our guard down around.
I have an aunt who also lives fairly close. She's bit older (88) and has a larger group of people she sees - a couple of my uncles and their families - probably 10 people she comes into contact with on a somewhat regular basis including me and my kids. She also gets her hair done once a week. I spread out our visits with her to probably once a month. We have had meals together but then put our masks on immediately after (Back in November I invited her over for a Sunday visit and told her to come over around 2. I figured it was outside of a normal meal time and she'd stay a couple hours then leave. When she started to drop hints around 4:30 of how hungry she was, I realized she expected to have dinner. Now I always plan on having a meal when we are together). We usually stay at the table even after we're done eating so there is less of a possibility of kids hugging on her or wanting to sit right next to her. She's had her first vaccine dose. We'll continue to mask after she gets her second dose but I'll feel better that she'll be protected.
My dad and step mom live across the country. Dad has a lot of health problems, including COPD, and he's been hospitalized 6x in the last year. It's been 1.5 years since we've seen him. We are going to visit him this summer - including driving 2 days and stopping at a hotel on the road. Hopefully H and I will have our vaccines by then. I assume none of my kids will, but this might be their last chance to see my dad. I think it's worth the risk.
I have had doctor and dentist appointments and I've taken my kids to in-person check-ups. I go grocery shopping in person in crowded stores almost every week. H goes to work in person 5 days a week. We both mask, wash our hands and use sanitizer. While nothing is 100% safe, I feel comfortable taking some risk as long as we are taking appropriate steps to mitigate that risk.
Post by karinothing on Feb 3, 2021 14:38:58 GMT -5
We had a PTA meeting last night. I was feeling really down about my kids doing the concurrent model, but I feel better about it now, at least for DS2. He is in kinder and the classroom will be only 6 students (including him). They will have the teacher teaching in small groups, and then a teaching assistant and then a staff member to help monitor independent work or specials. They will get to eat lunch outside (weather permitting) and get to play on the playground. WE still don't have a return date, but a neighboring district is returning March 16 so I assume ours will be similar.
My kids are STILL going to school on different days and that makes me sad. Not because I want them both out of the house at the same time (because I do) but I just had this vision of my oldest walking his youngest into school on the first day. I mean it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, I just hate that he won't be there to watch out of him.
Full vaccination reduces the chance of getting moderate to severe COVID 19 symptoms. It doesn’t prevent getting COVID all together. Data in reducing spread is still ongoing, but it is looking like it reduces the transmission of the COVID virus by about 2/3. Therefore, it is still possible to get and spread COVID to others after vaccination, although harder and likely to result in a more minor or asymptomatic case.
*For me* the risks are low enough while wearing a mask that I would be willing to make informed decisions to visit family based on health and outside contacts. Still, you should all still be wearing a mask with people outside your household regardless of vaccination status. No one wants to be in that minority percent for who moderate to severe COVID 19 symptoms are not prevented.
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pinkplasticdoll I have the same issue, except my mom is now fully vaccinated but my dad is still not taking it seriously, nor does he want to get the vaccine. I am torn on this. I can't make him get it, but I also don't know how I will say "no Dad, only mom can come visit"
All of our grandparents and parents are across the country. So I’m the “high risk” family member (immunocompromised and pregnant). I completed the full Pfizer series but we have not relaxed restrictions around my brother or his FI (both 100% work from home) because my husband and son are still vulnerable, even if they’re low risk for severe outcomes. and I don’t want my family to become a vector for transmission. I’m ok with masked, outdoors, (reasonably) distanced visits without food/drink now that our regional stay at home order has been lifted.
I anticipate at some point when all the adults are vaccinated *and* community rates drop (I anticipate both will happen on similar timelines since everyone else in this scenario is low priority for vaccination), we will be able to relax our precautions a bit even if my son is still not vaccinated.
And we have to rely on them for childcare when I’m in labor/delivery, but that’s a pretty extenuating circumstance. They’ve agreed to wear high grade masks around my son until PCR test results come back (we have a $$$ same day result open here)
We had a PTA meeting last night. I was feeling really down about my kids doing the concurrent model, but I feel better about it now, at least for DS2. He is in kinder and the classroom will be only 6 students (including him). They will have the teacher teaching in small groups, and then a teaching assistant and then a staff member to help monitor independent work or specials. They will get to eat lunch outside (weather permitting) and get to play on the playground. WE still don't have a return date, but a neighboring district is returning March 16 so I assume ours will be similar.
My kids are STILL going to school on different days and that makes me sad. Not because I want them both out of the house at the same time (because I do) but I just had this vision of my oldest walking his youngest into school on the first day. I mean it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, I just hate that he won't be there to watch out of him.
This seems like poor planning -- your family is getting twice the exposure this way. Can the school not organize so that siblings attend on the same days?
Post by Velar Fricative on Feb 3, 2021 15:14:15 GMT -5
We got DD2 tested today and are awaiting results. I just got my negative results from yesterday’s test. DD1 is still asymptomatic. DH will get retested because his Sunday test may have been too early if she’s patient zero in the house. I’m trying to remain optimistic that DD2 is negative but they had several days in the house together before we knew about the classroom case and they jump all over each other. If they’re both positive and DH and I are not, we will call up scientists to see if they want to study us lol. DH and I were both due for our second vaccine doses today and tomorrow but those are obviously postponed.
My mom got her first vaccination on Saturday and it makes me so happy. But it'll be awhile before H or I can get vaccinated, so I don't know when we will see her regularly.
We did have her over (outside, distanced, with masks) for DD's birthday because we are all miserable after almost a year of near isolation from our families. I am hoping that once she gets her second dose we can let DD do indoor, distanced, with masks because it's cold here. But I am still not sure. I have no idea when I will feel comfortable with the risk to her.
We got DD2 tested today and are awaiting results. I just got my negative results from yesterday’s test. DD1 is still asymptomatic. DH will get retested because his Sunday test may have been too early if she’s patient zero in the house. I’m trying to remain optimistic that DD2 is negative but they had several days in the house together before we knew about the classroom case and they jump all over each other. If they’re both positive and DH and I are not, we will call up scientists to see if they want to study us lol. DH and I were both due for our second vaccine doses today and tomorrow but those are obviously postponed.
You both had your first doses? I'm sure that has something to do with it. Nevertheless, definitely see if there is a place you can report your experience because it may be useful data to collect.
We got DD2 tested today and are awaiting results. I just got my negative results from yesterday’s test. DD1 is still asymptomatic. DH will get retested because his Sunday test may have been too early if she’s patient zero in the house. I’m trying to remain optimistic that DD2 is negative but they had several days in the house together before we knew about the classroom case and they jump all over each other. If they’re both positive and DH and I are not, we will call up scientists to see if they want to study us lol. DH and I were both due for our second vaccine doses today and tomorrow but those are obviously postponed.
My partner’s brother and his wife didn’t get Covid (at least not show up positive on a test) when 2 of their kids did. I hope you all stay healthy!