Article- Why Kids Should Grade Teachers

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Sept 25, 2012 21:25:59 GMT -5 rugbywife said:

Okay, so, if you feel that way about your complaints, do you genuinely think that a survey would be taken any differently? Or is it more that if everyone was doing the survey and everyone was commenting on the same things then they would HAVE to take it seriously?

I can see what you mean about hot and bothered parents getting their way, and how you might feel like your issues/complaints were over-looked/explained away (added after).

Yeah, I think of a teacher got 30 surveys and 15 of them said her group punishments were asinine she would actually give it some thoughts. Instead, I feel that if I tell her that, she'd think I believe my kid is some kind of special snowflake who never gets in trouble and thus, should never be punished no never.

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Sept 25, 2012 21:29:15 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Sept 25, 2012 21:25:59 GMT -5 rugbywife said:

Okay, so, if you feel that way about your complaints, do you genuinely think that a survey would be taken any differently? Or is it more that if everyone was doing the survey and everyone was commenting on the same things then they would HAVE to take it seriously?

I can see what you mean about hot and bothered parents getting their way, and how you might feel like your issues/complaints were over-looked/explained away (added after).

Yeah, I think of a teacher got 30 surveys and 15 of them said her group punishments were asinine she would actually give it some thoughts. Instead, I feel that if I tell her that, she'd think I believe my kid is some kind of special snowflake who never gets in trouble and thus, should never be punished no never.

Yep, that makes sense.

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Sept 25, 2012 21:27:40 GMT -5 rugbywife said:

I agree with all of that up to a point. I guess that I would want you to speak up if a) you felt like your child was being wrongly lumped in with those students and b) if you felt as though your child's happiness at school was being affected.

But I think you have already stated that neither of those are the case.

She clearly doesn't care about lumping kids in because everyone gets the punishment. Pete's actually been handed group punishments before this year but now the kids have been trolly while he's in gifted so it's not an issue, for him anyway.

In any case, it's not a lumped in problem for me anyway. Aside from the fact that I hate group punishments, I do think you have a classroom management problem if you're seeing the same issue daily (and I'm not exaggerating, this is a daily occurrence.) Clearly 200 sentences is either not an adequate punishment or you need to shift your classroom around or you need to come up with other things to keep them busy.

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Sept 25, 2012 21:32:17 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Sept 25, 2012 21:27:40 GMT -5 rugbywife said:

I agree with all of that up to a point. I guess that I would want you to speak up if a) you felt like your child was being wrongly lumped in with those students and b) if you felt as though your child's happiness at school was being affected.

But I think you have already stated that neither of those are the case.

In any case, it's not a lumped in problem for me anyway. Aside from the fact that I hate group punishments, I do think you have a classroom management problem if you're seeing the same issue daily (and I'm not exaggerating, this is a daily occurrence.) Clearly 200 sentences is either not an adequate punishment or you need to shift your classroom around or you need to come up with other things to keep them busy.

Absolutely. A huge part of effective classroom management has to do with changing your technique when you aren't getting the results you want...you know, that saying, doing the same thing and getting the same unwanted result is the definition of stupidity or absurdity, or whatever the quote is.. Also, I am a firm believer that there needs to be a link between the issue and the consequence...writing lines has no link to anything. I am sure she thinks that she is teaching them something, I just don't know what.

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Honestly, I knew she was going to be difficult from my first meeting with her at Open House.

She was very adamant that they had a lot to do A LOT TO DO and thus she had no time NO TIME for all this fooling around. When I asked about the school supply list she told me he absolutely had to have dry erase markers because they do a lot of individual white board work. A woman who worked as a parapro last year came in all nice and said, oh, I don't remember seeing you before, welcome to the school and the teacher replied, oh that's because I'm ALWAYS in my classroom. I teach from minute I arrive until the minute I leave because my students should be pushed at all times.

There's just way too much try in this woman and you could tell she was already set in her ways.

But pete is a stellar student under pretty much any circumstances so whatever, I let her ride. If she was pinky's teacher though, ugh, it would not be pretty.

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And once again, I must apologize for making every teacher thread all about my kids. lololol