ew NYC Marathon

[papie]

Nov 2, 2012 10:31:34 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Nov 2, 2012 9:21:09 GMT -5 papie said:

I don't understand the hate on the runners. The city decided to still hold it, presumably because they want to keep the income from it. How are the runners assholes for following the city's lead on this?

Apparently, they also deserve to have shit thrown in their faces.

I bet they didn't give candy to ToTers who didn't wear a costume.

Those bastards.

LOL!

[pantsparty]

I just saw on twitter, " They should rename the New York marathon The Hunger Games." LOL!

[bab]

Are people hating on the runners? I certainly am not. It's not their fault any of this is happening.

[papie]

Nov 2, 2012 10:38:25 GMT -5 bab said:

Are people hating on the runners? I certainly am not. It's not their fault any of this is happening.

Read the first page of this thread. "fuck those runners" "they deserve debris thrown to their face" etc.

[Deleted]

I wonder if people think about the less fortunate at other times in their lives. IDK, it just seems really surreal to me.

[Deleted]

11D your post is really odd to me because I know you were a runner. Some people may be constantly training but, for me, it would be impossible to run a marathon scheduled for this month next month. I need the taper period. I would still skip the NYC marathon, and I think the right thing to do is run the Indianapolis marathon since they have offered to make room. But I don't think it's just a fast reschedule.

[bab]

Nov 2, 2012 10:46:37 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

I wonder if people think about the less fortunate at other times in their lives. IDK, it just seems really surreal to me.

I can't speak for other people but I definitely do. I've been working with homeless families for over 10 years so it is impossible for me NOT to think of those who are less fortunate.

[vampsterdam]

Nov 2, 2012 11:23:32 GMT -5 @buster said:

For the professional runners, this is their job. Elle is still going to NYC for her job.

www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/prize_money.htm

my 2 cents...back to lurking

Sure, there are *some* people that do that marathon that are athletes and do the races to qualify for the olympics or whatever.

But really, it's not the same thing. And even if it IS their job, that doesn't mean they can't use common sense and tact to know that now may not be the time.

Also, you posting the prize link is gross. It comes off as, "You guys, they are professionals! They need their prize money!"

[underwaterrhymes]

I have mixed feelings about this. I think the bottom line right now should be the safety and security of the people who live in NYC and NJ. If the race in any way puts that in jeopardy, then it should be canceled. But this is not a decision that can be made easy or lightly.

For most of the elite racers, this is their livelihood. I'm pretty sure their sponsors will cover the cost of travel, but a missed race can mean that some of them can't feed their families since in many cases their winnings support multiple family members back home.

You could move it, I guess, but moving it probably would have been a challenge, too, since this is a sanctioned race, and sanctioned routes take time to plan / pull together. And canceling it means you have to reimburse people who have forked over money to participate since they will have paid @ $100 to participate, not to mention, in many cases, raised money for charities, bought gear and plane tickets, purchased hotel rooms, etc. Traveling to run a marathon is an expensive and time consuming endeavor. While I would certainly understand if I was a marathoner and it was canceled under these circumstances, I would definitely be out of pocket for a big chunk of change and would hope to see some sort of compensation. Which, again, gets messy since NYC gets the race money as revenue and I would hope that many of the racers who can afford it wouldn't want to see the city lose that money, especially right now.

But I think it's terrible that the racers are displacing people who have already been displaced. And certainly all of those resources going toward the race are necessary under normal circumstances, but ridiculous under these circumstances since there are people without power, without gas, and without food and water.

It's a really sucky situation and whether or not I think Bloomberg made the right decision, it was a really tough one to make. FWIW - I did hear today that the sponsors of the race have all offered up at least $1 million toward the relief efforts, but it was via word of mouth and I have no idea if the source is accurate, or how this helps the people who are in need right now.

[underwaterrhymes]

Nov 2, 2012 11:27:10 GMT -5 vampsterdam said:

Nov 2, 2012 11:23:32 GMT -5 @buster said:

For the professional runners, this is their job. Elle is still going to NYC for her job.

www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/prize_money.htm

my 2 cents...back to lurking

Sure, there are *some* people that do that marathon that are athletes and do the races to qualify for the olympics or whatever.

But really, it's not the same thing. And even if it IS their job, that doesn't mean they can't use common sense and tact to know that now may not be the time.

Also, you posting the prize link is gross. It comes off as, "You guys, they are professionals! They need their prize money!"

To be fair, some of them DO need that prize money.

[Deleted]

Whew, there are some angry people on the race's FB page: www.facebook.com/NewYorkRoadRunners?fref=ts

Also, it looks like a LOT of runners are deferring their entries.

[bronxgirl]

Nov 2, 2012 11:23:32 GMT -5 @buster said:

For the professional runners, this is their job. Elle is still going to NYC for her job.

www.ingnycmarathon.org/entrantinfo/prize_money.htm

my 2 cents...back to lurking

There are numerous NYers and NJians who are unable to do their jobs b/c of the storm and may possibly lose their jobs and their businesses.

[underwaterrhymes]

Nov 2, 2012 11:45:21 GMT -5 toledo said:

Nov 2, 2012 11:37:50 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

To be fair, some of them DO need that prize money.

Shit happens.

Did you see the other post? I am advocating not holding the marathon.

However, it's not just a case of, "Oh boo hoo, people don't get their prize money." There are HUGE repercussions on both sides of the argument here.

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Nov 2, 2012 11:45:21 GMT -5 toledo said:

Nov 2, 2012 11:37:50 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

To be fair, some of them DO need that prize money.

Shit happens.

Yeah, but the idea that running the race is more frivolous than any other job is baseless. There isn't blanket criticism of everyone traveling to New York, it's just criticism of the runners.

As a personal matter, I would not think twice - I would either run the 26 miles at home and view it as the year I ran the "new York" marathon at home, or I would fly to Indianapolis, or I would find a different marathon. There's no way I would go into New York for a pleasure event right now. But I don't think that's specific to the race, I think everyone should be suspending pleasure travel until the transportation and hotel situations ease. And I personally would not want my money refunded, but at the same time, can we judge the runners anymore than anyone else who hasn't donated $150 to Red Cross or the city?

[vampsterdam]

Nov 2, 2012 11:43:06 GMT -5 @jezebel said:

Whew, there are some angry people on the race's FB page: www.facebook.com/NewYorkRoadRunners?fref=ts

Also, it looks like a LOT of runners are deferring their entries.

Like I originally said, there are runners that I really do feel bad for. I would also not wish anything bad to the people who do run the race. There also are runners who raise money for other charities, I get that, too.

However, I wish I didn't click on that. There is a lot of crazy up in there! Also, one moron is going on saying, "Don't you guys realize how hard a marathon is?! We lose our toenails and the entire running part is NOT fun!". Oh man, people. Don't compare your "hardships" of running to the hardships of a hurricane victim, ffs.

[jaylea]

If you read the NY Times article, it sounds like they do not have the police needed to both address the needs of the residents and to handle the marathon.

That should pretty much answer the question, right?

[bab]

Nov 2, 2012 12:17:41 GMT -5 @mrdobalina said:

I hope those dead people on Staten Island don't get in the way of the runners. Because they don't cross train, it's not a steeplechase. Also, prize money.

:heart:

[underwaterrhymes]

Nov 2, 2012 12:28:10 GMT -5 @littlemoxie said:

Do they get paid just for participating? I mean, they aren't all going to win the prize money since they won't all place in the top 3 or whatever gives substantial winnings.

Plus, lots of people haven't been able to go to work and have suffered a loss of income - mostly New Yorkers. So using that as a reason to go on still seems like it's putting non-New Yorkers ahead of New Yorkers.

I'm not angry at the runners, but I sure as hell can see why someone in NY (who pays a shit ton of state AND city income tax) would be.

To reiterate: I do not think the marathon should be held. I think the safety and the security of the people who have been affected by this storm should come first and that they are the ones in need of all of the resources the city and its supporters have at this time.

However, just because canceling it is the right thing to do does not meant that it is an easy decision without other repercussions. There are a whole host of things to think about when you cancel a large event like this, not the least of which is the income that comes in to the city because of it.

With regard to the prize money, I was simply responding to the one person who implied that the prize money was just a feather in someone's cap. Again, for some people these marathons are their jobs; it's not just another medal to hang on the wall. The sponsorships and the prize money they receive allow them to support their families, as well as to get sponsorships and support into other marathons. This is obviously not the case for the vast majority of the people who participate, but it is often the case for those for whom the prize money is an actual possibility.

[bab]

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[eddy]

I think they should have postponed it. Yes I get that it screws with runners training, but that is the least of the worries. NYC could still get the revenue eventually and resources could continue to be focused on residents.

[AHappierHour]

Nov 2, 2012 12:11:34 GMT -5 Loco Coco said:

I agree to postpone or cancel.

People have lost their homes. They have no food, power, water, gas, etc.

For fucks sakes the dead haven't even been laid to rest yet and they want to hold a marathon!?

No, just no.

I agree!