SS - Did anyone get screwed out of a present?

[gretchenindisguise]

I haven't participated in many JLM threads.

My bottom line is either a) everything posted is real and she deserves/needs empathy or b) not everything is real but she felt the need to post it because of mental health issues and she deserves/needs empathy.

I did offer her a referral to someone in her town, no idea if she took it up or not, but really once the information is passed along, she's under no obligation to tell me one way or the other.

This board, and I guess this our culture at large is so odd to me. If you suffer from some forms of mental illness - you'll get support (ex: look at the support new moms with ppd get here, or anxiety/depression in general). Suffer from a different, less common or less understood type, and you're shamed/humiliated.

[sangria]

And cjoy. For real. Hilarity.

[scotty]

I don't think you did anything wrong dowager, sorry if it reads strangely. All signs point to 'what' at oversharing 'sister'. It's Nev time. Lol.

[EmilieMadison]

I'm sorry but WTF to talking to the sister on the phone.
Jlm is so terrified of her ex that she moves and gets a new job so he and his family can't find her, but her sister is talking about her to a complete internet stranger?

[luckyval]

Jan 7, 2013 14:50:37 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

I reached out to her sister through fb because of my concern. When I told her what jlm had told me, she called me and we spoke. Since then, she's just communicated with me to update me, or ask if I have talked to her.

I'm not pressing you for more info but this part just makes me go



jlm's sister is contacting you asking for updates on her? That is concerning

[Deleted]

I don't think the majority wants to intentionally shame or humiliate JLM, Gretchen. I think a lot of us feel personally invested and feel for the trauma that she's gone through, but obviously there's going to be hurt feelings when all the details don't add up.

I'm sure a lot of our reactions are plagued with ignorance about how to handle a situation like this best, but mental illness (in a serious way) was not brought up until today.

[thelurkylulu]

Jan 7, 2013 14:54:53 GMT -5 gretchenindisguise said:

I haven't participated in many JLM threads.

My bottom line is either a) everything posted is real and she deserves/needs empathy or b) not everything is real but she felt the need to post it because of mental health issues and she deserves/needs empathy.

I did offer her a referral to someone in her town, no idea if she took it up or not, but really once the information is passed along, she's under no obligation to tell me one way or the other.

This board, and I guess this our culture at large is so odd to me. If you suffer from some forms of mental illness - you'll get support (ex: look at the support new moms with ppd get here, or anxiety/depression in general). Suffer from a different, less common or less understood type, and you're shamed/humiliated.

I really do hope she is seeing someone. Sounds like she has serious issues she needs to work out in therapy.

[fuckyourcouch]

Jan 7, 2013 14:56:15 GMT -5 EmilieMadison said:

I'm sorry but WTF to talking to the sister on the phone.
Jlm is so terrified of her ex that she moves and gets a new job so he and his family can't find her, but her sister is talking about her to a complete internet stranger?

[karmasabiotch]

Throwing in my social work hat. There is no reasonable explanation when dealing with an abuser. No rhyme or reason and it's always unpredictable what they will focus on, when, and why.

This part shouldn't enter into our after the game chit chat because I think it minimizes survivor's of domestic violence and/or sexual assault.

[rex]

Jan 7, 2013 14:55:55 GMT -5 @tambcat said:

Why would she just not want one of her children?

I have honestly been wondering this the whole time.

They are so close in age. Both have the same father. Why one and not the other?

[scotty]

Jan 7, 2013 14:54:02 GMT -5 sangria said:

Jan 7, 2013 14:52:56 GMT -5 mookie said:

This is what I find weird. Not that I'm doubting what DC is saying, I'm just finding it incredibly strange that the sister would divulge information about her own sister to an 'Internet stranger'.
But then again maybe 'the crazy' runs in the family.

Think about it this way- if you know your sister is mentally ill/unstable and then you receive a concerned message from a complete stranger on FB wouldn't you be tempted to contact that stranger to make sure that your sister isn't doing some crazy and/or dangerous shit that could be harmful?

It really depends on the family. I would not share, I wouls ask for her sn and the forum address to keep tabs. I can see how some people would kind of throw their mentally ill sister's privacy under the bus if they were frustrated.

[dowagercountess]

As in, had jlm said anything to me that was concerning. As you can imagine, that is a complex relationship.

[thelurkylulu]

Jan 7, 2013 14:55:55 GMT -5 @tambcat said:

Why would she just not want one of her children?

Or if she didn't want one of them, why would she give her to her sister? I honestly think that child would have been much better off with a stranger. Can you imagine growing up with your aunt and seeing your mom raise your sister? The emotional issues that poor child is going to have breaks my heart.

[laptopvixen]

Jan 7, 2013 14:50:37 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

I reached out to her sister through fb because of my concern. When I told her what jlm had told me, she called me and we spoke. Since then, she's just communicated with me to update me, or ask if I have talked to her.

So the whole family is a little screwy then? I can't believe she would tell you anything! (not that I don't believe you, I do)

Also, everyone who came to the Philly brunch GTG may now reveal exactly when I started calling shenanigans on jlm. SOME TIME AGO.

[mookie]

Jan 7, 2013 14:54:02 GMT -5 sangria said:

Jan 7, 2013 14:52:56 GMT -5 mookie said:

This is what I find weird. Not that I'm doubting what DC is saying, I'm just finding it incredibly strange that the sister would divulge information about her own sister to an 'Internet stranger'.
But then again maybe 'the crazy' runs in the family.

Think about it this way- if you know your sister is mentally ill/unstable and then you receive a concerned message from a complete stranger on FB wouldn't you be tempted to contact that stranger to make sure that your sister isn't doing some crazy and/or dangerous shit that could be harmful?

Maybe.
But only if I knew that 'stranger' had some regular contact or interaction with my sister, aside from ONLY knowing her on some random message board.
Again, i'm not doubting DC's statements.
I am doubting this sisters decision to divulge her sisters, in my opinion-sensitive, delicate and personal mental issues and background. Especially since it sounds like there is a bit more the sister has revealed, which DC, understandably, isn't posting.

Shit's weird, YO.
But just my opinion.

[Deleted]

Didn't JLM say she was fightihng with her sister??

Is it because she talked to DC??

This is really too much.


DC - I don't think any of this is weird from your side - just the sisters.

[dowagercountess]

Jlm was very aware I spoke with her sister.

[EmilieMadison]

Jan 7, 2013 15:01:00 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

Jlm was very aware I spoke with her sister.

Nev would ask "Have you skyped with either of them?"

[speckledfrog]

And if you skyped with them, did either of them show you how to do a rim job on a peach?

[fuckyourcouch]

Jan 7, 2013 14:59:57 GMT -5 laptopvixen said:

Jan 7, 2013 14:50:37 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

I reached out to her sister through fb because of my concern. When I told her what jlm had told me, she called me and we spoke. Since then, she's just communicated with me to update me, or ask if I have talked to her.

So the whole family is a little screwy then? I can't believe she would tell you anything! (not that I don't believe you, I do)

Also, everyone who came to the Philly brunch GTG may now reveal exactly when I started calling shenanigans on jlm. SOME TIME AGO.

please to elaborate

[angelaa73]

Jan 7, 2013 14:59:42 GMT -5 dowagercountess said:

As in, had jlm said anything to me that was concerning. As you can imagine, that is a complex relationship.

Prescient host ftw

sent from my auld lang syne, my dear

[frauschmindy]

Jan 7, 2013 15:03:30 GMT -5 speckledfrog said:

And if you skyped with them, did either of them show you how to do a rim job on a peach?

oh my goddddd.

[mookie]

Even if every single thing she posted was a fabrication, despite all of you having spent time-sympathizing, empathizing, shedding tears and offering support-it's much bigger than the fact that you may have been hoodwinked.Cause this is some seriously messed up shit. She needs serious mental help. And I hope she gets it.

[stephlove]

And here I thought my first day back to work would be boring.

[Deleted]

Who is Nev???

I am getting so confused

[fuckyourcouch]

Jan 7, 2013 15:10:56 GMT -5 @amoosed said:

Who is Nev???

I am getting so confused

nev is the guy from the catfish show.

[Deleted]

Thanks Lucy and FYC! I thought I was going crazy and there was some mysterious poster named nev.

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2013 14:29:52 GMT -5 sb said:

Jan 7, 2013 14:18:50 GMT -5 elle said:

I just want to know if she was really raped.

Are you fucking kidding me? Seriously, read that sentence to yourself and rethink exactly how shitty it is.

What - to ask if someone who might actually be a 60 year old man fabricated a detail of his life? This isn't like gossiping about your sorority sister. Read.For.Context.

[Deleted]

Regarding the catfish thing, can't you reverse image search on google?

Maybe that is why she pulls them down so fast.

::fastens tinfoil hat::

[Deleted]

So right now, we have Dowager's instincts -- which, seriously, no sarcasm, I do trust -- on one hand, and a missing Christmas gift, lack of ever meeting her, and some very implausible stories on the other. I am still confused about what to believe. Have to say, but for Dowager, I wouldn't have any doubts at all.