Conservative vs liberal Catholics? As long as we aren't playing "im better than you", carry on. Because, if someone slams with cafeteria Catholic, I will be ticked.
I think liberal is code for something nefarious like... dun dun dun... cafeteria Catholic.
2V, I think you have some warped view of me, my faith and the type of Catholic I am, potentially because I have a sense of humor about it (and well everything, in general, including my brothers, FTR) and a brutally honest view of the Church, which is fine, I don't know if it's worth it to attempt to disabuse you of your opinion of me because I doubt you will respect what I have to say anyway. But, yes, I've actually attended two conservative Catholic churches in two different areas that I lived in. I currently attend a fairly traditional Catholic church. I have no problem discussing religion with my fellow Catholics, and I'm actually not opinionated about how others practice their faith. That's between them and God. And as I've mentioned several times, I attended 12 years of Catholic school, along with one year of law school at a very strict Catholic law school - if you think I never encountered a strict Catholic, or had a debate with a strict Catholic, well, I don't know. That's pretty silly. I have an aunt who is a nun. If you think she backs down from religious discussions with me and I somehow intimidate her? LOL LOL LOL. Or that we argue all the time because I'm sooooooooo liberal? No.
I just have a problem with people lacking a realistic view of the Church, and my opinion is that you are someone who defends the Church to the point of it hurting Catholics. You may not like that, but there it is. It is too much, and I think you should consider finding a balance and choosing your defenses and objections more carefully. Some battles are worth fighting, others aren't. And that affects me, which is why I comment on it.
I think it's obvious from your last post that I'm not the one who has a problem being judgmental and lacking inclusiveness. I have no interest in eradicating conservative Catholics from the Church. You're the one who seems to think less strict Catholics are somehow a problem. You may not care about attracting others to the Catholic faith or having other Catholics (or non-Catholics) who aren't like you listen, but you should care about credibility. You are the boy who cried wolf, and that is why I said it was "Catholic apologist bullshit." I doubt Catholics like yourself are bashing the Church, so perhaps you should think about that instead of saying you're looking for people who are open to what you're saying. Because then you're just preaching to the choir and what is that going to do for you? Exactly nothing. And the next time you're defending the Church with your "more to the story" shtick, people will automatically discount you - if they aren't already. If that's what you're looking for, keep at it; you're doing great. And I'll keep calling it out, because it's important to me that real cases of Catholic bashing, or real cases when there is more to the story with the Church are recognized and discussed.
I don't know what kind of fun sucking household you live in but if you can't rip on your own brother about the humorous bullshit they've pulled, I need a new family. It's even more hilarious when someone drops the perfect one-liner.
I don't know what kind of fun sucking household you live in but if you can't rip on your own brother about the humorous bullshit they've pulled, I need a new family. It's even more hilarious when someone drops the perfect one-liner.
You get me, habbsies. You really do.
If I can't laugh at the expense of my brothers, life might not be worth living. They have pulled some really stupid shit, that is hilarious now. And before I get a rep for just making fun of other people, I 100% believe life isn't worth living if you can't laugh at yourself, too.
Especially as it's no longer happening. I mean you wouldn't make fun of your brother while he's in the middle of a mental breakdown but I sure as shit can pick on my grown ass brother about that time he was picked up for TPing the neighborhood and crack felon jokes.
Especially as it's no longer happening. I mean you wouldn't make fun of your brother while he's in the middle of a mental breakdown but I sure as shit can pick on my grown ass brother about that time he was picked up for TPing the neighborhood and crack felon jokes.
Or the time my brother got 3 DUIs. And the last one was hitting a parked police car? It wasn't funny at the time, but 9 years later, it's pretty amusing that he was THAT much of a bonehead. Especially since no one ever got hurt. I probably wouldn't joke about it if someone had been injured, though. That's my line!
Especially as it's no longer happening. I mean you wouldn't make fun of your brother while he's in the middle of a mental breakdown but I sure as shit can pick on my grown ass brother about that time he was picked up for TPing the neighborhood and crack felon jokes.
Shit, if my family can make jokes about my two oldest siblings nearly hanging the 3rd, ANYTHING is game.
No, really. That actually happened. It's a miracle any of us survived childhood when we get together and start swapping stories.
At their 50th anniversary celebration, my mom said the one gift she wanted was for all of us kids to tell her the crazy shit we did. I think most of us kept the craziest stuff under wraps, but we did find out my brothers derailed a freight train when they were middle-school age that evening.....
Eclaires of course I do. But honestly, all Christian churches worship God and if I want to just worship God I can go to any church and do that. I wanted to find someplace where I felt comfortable and I personally do NOT feel comfortable hearing the 1000th sermon on the working woman neglecting the family, the man is the head of the household, gays are destroying America. Who wants to hear that? In church no less? Not me.
It's not like the gay and women stance was my only issue. It was a starting place.Obviously I had to like the church itself. And it's been two years and I'm finally at peace and happy where I am.
I don't know if you've ever been to a fire and brimstone, fundie, womant hatin' church but believe me, I had good reasons to want to avoid a church with those doctrines. The emails were only to help me weed out what I didn't want. I had to actually visit churches to find what I wanted. I ended up at the Episcopal over the Lutheran becasue it was closer to my house and even that is almost an hour away. I'm in the boonies of Virginia y'all! lol. There is a fantastic Methodist church that I've attended with a friend of mine as well. They're good people and if I ever left the Episcopal, I could slide right in with the Methodists no problem.
Habs I get very confused too. Forums can suck that way.
Why not go to a Reform Jewish synagogue? They are AWESOME. Oh, wait. The whole Christ thing.
Sue Sue I thought about it. There is an awesome reform temple downtown that someone was telling me about. A lot of interfaith couples, very welcoming to all. I was raised Christian though and it's just one of those things ingrained in me. There is a lot about the Jewish faith that is appealing to me though. I have a lot of respect for it.
You guys know this thread is bananas, right? I'll admit my banana shit craziness with the lamb in black face thread, but some of you are having a Boo Radley moment here...
We are discussing history. I'd say that is pretty awesome. The rest is normal fluff for this board.