organic milk, yes or no?

[catbus]

Jun 26, 2013 11:59:58 GMT -5 pugz said:

well you guys just made me more confused, lolz.

Soozy and Token, can you find me some articles about the regulations that dairies be antibiotic free? I am tempted to stick with store brand if that is indeed how it is run.

daycare will be doing regular whole milk but she only goes 2 days a week, most milk will be consumed at home.

Someone above said both antibiotics and hormones are illegal in U.S. dairies, but that's not true. Antibiotics are, hormones are still ok. I'd buy milk specifically marked as rBGH-free. 
Here's info on rBGH in milk: www.sustainabletable.org/258/hormones#dairy
And on antibiotics; they're illegal, but there has been concern about residual antibiotic levels... 
www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/FDAVeterinarianNewsletter/ucm093812.htm
www.dairymoos.com/antibiotics-in-my-milk/
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/26milk.html?_r=0

[pugz]

I know the regular milk at TJs, costco, and Hyvee are all rbgh free, per the label at least

[mushmouse]

Jun 26, 2013 12:11:27 GMT -5 pugz said:

I know the regular milk at TJs, costco, and Hyvee are all rbgh free, per the label at least

Aldi too!

[af1212]

I buy organic milk for my whole family (we all drink the same skim milk right now). We also get as many organic veggies and fruits as possible, and I only serve organic fruits and veggies to the baby (and did to my oldest when she was a baby). Here organic milk is $5.99 per gallon. We use about 2 gallons a week for the three of us (2 adults and a 3 year old).

[Deleted]

Jun 26, 2013 12:36:25 GMT -5 mushmouse said:

Jun 26, 2013 12:11:27 GMT -5 pugz said:

I know the regular milk at TJs, costco, and Hyvee are all rbgh free, per the label at least

Aldi too!

And Wegmans. I think a lot of grocery stores are advertising this now. I see it all over the place.

[soozy87]

Jun 26, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5 catbus said:

Jun 26, 2013 11:59:58 GMT -5 pugz said:

well you guys just made me more confused, lolz.

Soozy and Token, can you find me some articles about the regulations that dairies be antibiotic free? I am tempted to stick with store brand if that is indeed how it is run.

daycare will be doing regular whole milk but she only goes 2 days a week, most milk will be consumed at home.

Someone above said both antibiotics and hormones are illegal in U.S. dairies, but that's not true. Antibiotics are, hormones are still ok. I'd buy milk specifically marked as rBGH-free. 
Here's info on rBGH in milk: www.sustainabletable.org/258/hormones#dairy
And on antibiotics; they're illegal, but there has been concern about residual antibiotic levels... 
www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/FDAVeterinarianNewsletter/ucm093812.htm
www.dairymoos.com/antibiotics-in-my-milk/
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/26milk.html?_r=0

Antibiotics are not illegal to use on dairy cows. BUT farmers must ensure that the antibiotics are out of the animal before their milk is added to the tank that will be sold to the dairy. Just like when you are sick or your kid is sick you give them medicine to make them feel better - farmers don't want their animals to suffer needlessly either. Think of it like "pump and dump" like you would when bfing your baby after drinking or taking medicine.

[Deleted]

We use regular milk. Organic is too expensive.

[catbus]

Jun 26, 2013 13:25:56 GMT -5 soozy87 said:

Jun 26, 2013 12:07:45 GMT -5 catbus said:

Someone above said both antibiotics and hormones are illegal in U.S. dairies, but that's not true. Antibiotics are, hormones are still ok. I'd buy milk specifically marked as rBGH-free. 
Here's info on rBGH in milk: www.sustainabletable.org/258/hormones#dairy
And on antibiotics; they're illegal, but there has been concern about residual antibiotic levels... 
www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary/NewsEvents/FDAVeterinarianNewsletter/ucm093812.htm
www.dairymoos.com/antibiotics-in-my-milk/
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/business/26milk.html?_r=0

Antibiotics are not illegal to use on dairy cows. BUT farmers must ensure that the antibiotics are out of the animal before their milk is added to the tank that will be sold to the dairy. Just like when you are sick or your kid is sick you give them medicine to make them feel better - farmers don't want their animals to suffer needlessly either. Think of it like "pump and dump" like you would when bfing your baby after drinking or taking medicine.

Yes, sorry--I should have clarified. Antibiotic use is allowed, but the cow must be quarantined and her milk not used until the antibiotics have cleared the system. In a factory farm setting, I disagree that the use of antibiotics is primarily to prevent cows from suffering, though... but I digress.

[Deleted]

Jun 26, 2013 11:59:58 GMT -5 pugz said:

well you guys just made me more confused, lolz.

Soozy and Token, can you find me some articles about the regulations that dairies be antibiotic free? I am tempted to stick with store brand if that is indeed how it is run.

daycare will be doing regular whole milk but she only goes 2 days a week, most milk will be consumed at home.

This describes the testing procedure for Canadian dairies: www.uoguelph.ca/foodsafetynetwork/safety-canadian-milk

This is a blog that expresses why I think organic dairies are a bit cruel - when I have mastitis, I want the damn antibiotics. Because you can't use antibiotics at all on an organic farm, it's either don't treat or treat and sell the animal. It seems really extreme. www.dairymoos.com/antibiotics-in-my-milk/

I'm not sure how to find the equivalent FDA testing procedures, or if it's done state by state, or what the regulations are there. I just know I'm pretty comfortable drinking regular Canadian milk.

[soozy87]

Jun 26, 2013 13:34:22 GMT -5 catbus said:

Jun 26, 2013 13:25:56 GMT -5 soozy87 said:

Antibiotics are not illegal to use on dairy cows. BUT farmers must ensure that the antibiotics are out of the animal before their milk is added to the tank that will be sold to the dairy. Just like when you are sick or your kid is sick you give them medicine to make them feel better - farmers don't want their animals to suffer needlessly either. Think of it like "pump and dump" like you would when bfing your baby after drinking or taking medicine.

Yes, sorry--I should have clarified. Antibiotic use is allowed, but the cow must be quarantined and her milk not used until the antibiotics have cleared the system. In a factory farm setting, I disagree that the use of antibiotics is primarily to prevent cows from suffering, though... but I digress.

Well, for whatever reason they are used they must be out of her system before her milk is added to the rest.

[egishere]

Jun 26, 2013 11:41:22 GMT -5 ijack said:

Jun 26, 2013 11:40:03 GMT -5 hski2349 said:

You are in CO right?  Do you get it from Longmont Dairy?  I have been considering trying it and was wondering how it was.

We actually use royal crest because when we started (like 15+ years ago) longmont didn't deliver to us. We LOVE the milk and the cheese. I've heard longmont dairy is really good as well, their cheese is more expensive though. And the convenience of milk delivery is awesome.

We use Royal Crest too.  No complaints!

[soozy87]

Jun 26, 2013 11:59:58 GMT -5 pugz said:

well you guys just made me more confused, lolz.

Soozy and Token, can you find me some articles about the regulations that dairies be antibiotic free? I am tempted to stick with store brand if that is indeed how it is run.

daycare will be doing regular whole milk but she only goes 2 days a week, most milk will be consumed at home.

Here is a story I found about milk processing. It is a fairly simple explanation, but the best I could find that didn't mention either side being right or wrong.

[hocus2]

Jun 26, 2013 13:45:36 GMT -5 soozy87 said:

Jun 26, 2013 11:59:58 GMT -5 pugz said:

well you guys just made me more confused, lolz.

Soozy and Token, can you find me some articles about the regulations that dairies be antibiotic free? I am tempted to stick with store brand if that is indeed how it is run.

daycare will be doing regular whole milk but she only goes 2 days a week, most milk will be consumed at home.

Here is a story I found about milk processing. It is a fairly simple explanation, but the best I could find that didn't mention either side being right or wrong.

   So I read this and I was surprised the whole milk has the fat removed and then added back. 

[Marmee]

I buy organic but didn't always.

[BAMFMrsB]

My plan is to buy the regular store brand whole milk at Whole Foods. It tastes so good. DH and I love it. I guess I can be talked in to Organic if it is better for DS but if it doesn't really matter to his pedi, Whole Foods milk it is!