I roll my eyes at the lot of you who wont leave the house when it's your child's nap time or if the child hasn't napped. I get it that having a cranky baby is not fun but I refuse to be a slave to my child's naps.
I think its incredibly selfish to sacrifice your childrens sleep for yourself. Kids NEED sleep. And there is nothing worse to me than a cranky child because their parents won't take the time to let them rest and recharge.
We aren't slaves to naptime, but I think sleep is important for kids so we make it a priority.
orriskitten is there any way you can make it tomorrow? I'm sure there are other hotels. And I'm sorry about the GG situation. (((Hugs)))
Not very likely... We would have been able to do it if we planned during the week, but it's probably not worth it. We leave the 11th for Iceland and with things going back and fourth with Mel and gg, it's just not fair to disrupt their schedules. If it were just Mel it would be doable and I'd suck it up, but doing it to gg too isn't sitting right.
(((Hugs))) you are the best to your family. You really are. We should try to gtg before you leave for Iceland!
I roll my eyes at the lot of you who wont leave the house when it's your child's nap time or if the child hasn't napped. I get it that having a cranky baby is not fun but I refuse to be a slave to my child's naps.
But when else can I poop in peace and take my nap? I can push nap off or make it earlier, but my kid is a poopy pants without a good nap!
I roll my eyes at the lot of you who wont leave the house when it's your child's nap time or if the child hasn't napped. I get it that having a cranky baby is not fun but I refuse to be a slave to my child's naps.
I think its incredibly selfish to sacrifice your childrens sleep for yourself. Kids NEED sleep. And there is nothing worse to me than a cranky child because their parents won't take the time to let them rest and recharge.
We aren't slaves to naptime, but I think sleep is important for kids so we make it a priority.
If you start when they are born they don't know any difference and can adjust and sleep on the go. My kid is a great sleeper and usually in a great mood, doesn't throw tantrums, etc. Each child is different though so I understand where the non nap disrupters are coming from. I am sure baby 2 will bite me in the ass and will be a horrible sleeper and have sass.
And as far as selfishness goes that is a bit harsh. Its not like I am waking him to go get my nails done. We have activities we signed up for and we go to them. Learning isn't really selfish in my book.
Post by biblionerd on Jun 28, 2013 10:28:01 GMT -5
I totally ugly cried this morning over craigslist. This lady said she'd hold a bed for me until today. My husband was right down the road from her at work yesterday but had the car. She said fine and we totally rearranged our days so he could get off work early and take the truck. I emailed this morning to double check the time and the bitch sold it last night. If you want first come first serve then say so and don't say you'll hold it.
Kinda random but I really like that Pink/Nate Reuss song Just Give me a Reason. I like to speculate who's the one that's making this whole thing up because Pink says she hears Nate say shitty things in his sleep but Nate says Pink's imagining things. Dun dun dun.
I love that song and Robin Thicke's new song Blurred Lines.
Post by orriskitten on Jun 28, 2013 10:29:26 GMT -5
I use leaving the house as my last resort if she won't nap. Kid loves sleeping in her stroller. If I battle for an hour + to go down, we go for a walk and I run errands as she sleeps. Or suit in Starbucks or the park. She naps so well on the go. It took me a bit to realize this isn't typical.
I roll my eyes at the lot of you who wont leave the house when it's your child's nap time or if the child hasn't napped. I get it that having a cranky baby is not fun but I refuse to be a slave to my child's naps.
Eh, some of us have shit sleepers (me!!!). Both my kids were/are tough nappers and early as shit wakers. Also, neither slept in the stroller, car, in a carrier, or on an airplane after about 4 months of age. Both, if they miss a nap, would/do wake up at night, and wake even earlier the next day (yes, earlier than the usual 5-5:30 wake up. For the day.)
For H I was at home as much as I could for naps and bedtime. I still was out all day (short naps will do that!). For E I can't be a slave to his nap due to H and his schedule (school, classes, etc) and it SUCKS. When we aren't home for a nap he is up at night frequently (he usually STTN) and is seriously up for the day at 4:30.
so, I speak for all of us with inflexible sleepers. They aren't inflexible because we made them that way. Oh lord, we try to have them be more flexible. But some kids just aren't, and the exhaustion from it can wear down the entire family. So cut those with tough sleepers a break.
Post by musiclover on Jun 28, 2013 10:34:35 GMT -5
I try and stay home during Nolan's nice 2 hour nap, but then again I'm only home with him like that on Mondays so doing it one day a week is no big deal as we have no real plans on a Monday. When N takes his nap, I have Adam take his rest time, those 2 hours of un-interrupted quiet time are the best 2 hours EVER!! No one shall EVER take that away from me, lol.
I'm having a lot of anxiety about finding something WHITE to wear for these effing family photos. My mom is making it 100% worse and yesterday said "can't you just buy a white dress?" when she nixed the cream-colored one I found.
I never wear anything but black. Sometimes green or red.
So being in something light-colored is making me have bad feelings about my body. That really never happens anymore and it's really affecting me.
Ann Taylor has a white wrap dress that might look really good on you. It's on sale, but still a little spendy.
Post by spaghetticat on Jun 28, 2013 10:44:18 GMT -5
I think the nap thing is just another of the "every kid is different" thing. If your kid can function without a nap, good for you. If they can't, it's better for everyone if you do what you can to make it happen.
Your first post did not seem like a "once in a while" thing to me.
If I'm going somewhere far away, I try to leave when it's time for her to nap in the car. But I realize that wont work for some people, bc every kid is different.
Post by charlielove on Jun 28, 2013 10:45:27 GMT -5
I echo everyone with inflexible sleepers. Charlotte is definitely more flexible than her sister, out of necessity, but we have to deal with a cranky kid if her schedule is thrown off by a too short nap, etc. She'll wake up at night and get up earlier. So, right now we are home for naps as much as possible (which is most of the time) and I choose to plan activities and meet ups around that schedule. It's pretty consistent so I know when we will be available. And I have a toddler who takes naps from 9-10:30/11 and then again from 1:30-3:30/4 and generally sleeps through the night. So I am sticking with it!
Post by biblionerd on Jun 28, 2013 10:47:38 GMT -5
I have evil kids if they don't nap. So it's pointless for me to sacrifice their naps and go somewhere else. There's zero point in going to a scheduled activity if they're just going to scream and tantrum through the whole thing. Then if we nap late it affects their night time sleeping and that IS important to them. We'll stay places later if it's getting to nap time and they're doing ok, but I don't skip them on purpose just to do something. Fiona can sleep on the go better and has fallen asleep at the zoo and museum so I understand where people with easy sleepers/nappers/kids are coming from, but.... take take them both when they haven't had a nap and then let me see you roll your eyes at me for skipping that nap.
I agree that you post didn't make it sound like a once in awhile thing.
Once in awhile is totally different .
I think its selfish to all the time make plans, stay out late, etc. and just make your child "adapt" by losing valuable sleep. I think there is a big difference.
Post by charlielove on Jun 28, 2013 10:50:08 GMT -5
I'm definitely fine with skipping a nap once in awhile too. Like when we were on vacation a couple weeks ago, Charlotte had to nap in the stroller for her first nap everyday so we could get out and do stuff. That meant she only slept for 30 minutes versus 1.5-2 hours, but I was okay with it since it was just for a few days.
I echo everyone with inflexible sleepers. Charlotte is definitely more flexible than her sister, out of necessity, but we have to deal with a cranky kid if her schedule is thrown off by a too short nap, etc. She'll wake up at night and get up earlier. So, right now we are home for naps as much as possible (which is most of the time) and I choose to plan activities and meet ups around that schedule. It's pretty consistent so I know when we will be available. And I have a toddler who takes naps from 9-10:30/11 and then again from 1:30-3:30/4 and generally sleeps through the night. So I am sticking with it!
I don't see anything with planning your day around your child's nap. However, if, for whatever reason, your child doesn't take their nap, are you going to cancel any plans you may have made?
I think that's where the childs temperament comes in. Yes, I might cancel because whats the point in going out to dinner or out somewhere where the child is going to be miserable and make the experience miserable for everyone.
Its great that yours are so flexible, but not everyone has that luxury.
I echo everyone with inflexible sleepers. Charlotte is definitely more flexible than her sister, out of necessity, but we have to deal with a cranky kid if her schedule is thrown off by a too short nap, etc. She'll wake up at night and get up earlier. So, right now we are home for naps as much as possible (which is most of the time) and I choose to plan activities and meet ups around that schedule. It's pretty consistent so I know when we will be available. And I have a toddler who takes naps from 9-10:30/11 and then again from 1:30-3:30/4 and generally sleeps through the night. So I am sticking with it!
I don't see anything with planning your day around your child's nap. However, if, for whatever reason, your child doesn't take their nap, are you going to cancel any plans you may have made?
I don't even know because she's never skipped a nap, girl loves her sleep! But really, if she skipped her morning nap, I'd go about with my other plans and hope she would catch a short nap in her stroller or in the Ergo or something. If she skipped her afternoon nap, I may cancel dinner plans or something because she is already not a big fan of sitting in a high chair at a restaurant right now, and that would definitely make it worse.
orriskitten I'm sorry. You are taking on a lot of stuff right now and are a great person!
It's just that it's all for nothing. Gg is going back to live with my bitch of a grandmother and then I get to be the bad person for not wanting grandma around and I can't have just gg around so she won't get to see Mel and will die sad and alone, thinking she is unloved. I feel like such a failure and a means for everyone's ends.
I'm sorry your family doesn't realize how lucky they are to have as wonderful person as you in their lives, and instead they crap all over your feelings.
I echo everyone with inflexible sleepers. Charlotte is definitely more flexible than her sister, out of necessity, but we have to deal with a cranky kid if her schedule is thrown off by a too short nap, etc. She'll wake up at night and get up earlier. So, right now we are home for naps as much as possible (which is most of the time) and I choose to plan activities and meet ups around that schedule. It's pretty consistent so I know when we will be available. And I have a toddler who takes naps from 9-10:30/11 and then again from 1:30-3:30/4 and generally sleeps through the night. So I am sticking with it!
This is Calista's exact nap schedule. Except she never sleeps all night.
I guess I am one that is a slaves to naps. My children are not flexible at naps and are not the ones to just fall asleep anywhere (like the kid sleeping at Wendy's yesterday). I am fine with this because it is not a forever thing.
Lydia has always been a little more flexible with falling asleep in the car and now that she is older her nap time is more flexible.
Calista is a pistol if she does not get her two naps in.
I have a child that NEEDS his routine and structure otherwise it is meltdown city here. I need sanity. I don't fuck with nap time. That being said, we are going sans nap tomorrow and hope that Katelyn at least naps in the stroller. We have gone without naps before, Christmas, birthday parties, the zoo GTG (even though she slept in the stroller for 20 minutes and he slept in the car for about 20 minutes) it wasn't their typical 3 hour nap. I'm alone with the kids all weekend long, I need sanity, nap time is my down time. I don't fuck with nap time. I also don't typically make plans at nap time either. I don't feel like a slave to nap time because that is MY time.
ETA: Nap time starts at 1:30 (ideally before than) they fall asleep hopefully by 2-2:20 and the last one is awake around 5:30-6. I love that time.
I agree with @therealmc, but I also think it depends on the childs temperment to an extent. Maybe its just because I've always taken Camden out not depending on nap time so thats why he does good with it, or its just how he is. But I dont plan around naptime. He will nap when he's tired, whether it be in the car on the way home, or when we get home. If we're going to lunch with someone, I see if maybe he'll sleep before. Now that he's older he wont do that, so he skips a nap, and either takes a quick 10 mintue snooze on the way there, sleeps on the way home, or gets put down for a nap when we get home. But, he can tolerate this, and I'm sure other kids wont. But for US, we dont revolve our lives around his napping.
Post by musiclover on Jun 28, 2013 11:09:45 GMT -5
Is it sad that I keep their nap/rest time consistent more for me. The kids are go with the flow kinda kids, but boy so I love my me time. It's all about meeeeeeeeeeeeee and myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy time.
PS: I am off next week and I really should not be on PBs today, why aren't I working? I really should log off and do some work...ugh......
My FFFC: I had to leave work to run home and change because I have the mother of AFs right now. I decided to put in my Nuvaring in hopes that the wench leaves by tomorrow (typically happens that way). As I was trying to insert it, it fell in the toilet. I scooped it out rinsed it off, wiped it and inserted it. I had peed in the toilet a little prior to inserting.
Gross: yes, but I wasn't wasting going to pay OOP for a new ring since insurance only covers one every 28 days.
I agree with @therealmc, but I also think it depends on the childs temperment to an extent. Maybe its just because I've always taken Camden out not depending on nap time so thats why he does good with it, or its just how he is. But I dont plan around naptime. He will nap when he's tired, whether it be in the car on the way home, or when we get home. If we're going to lunch with someone, I see if maybe he'll sleep before. Now that he's older he wont do that, so he skips a nap, and either takes a quick 10 mintue snooze on the way there, sleeps on the way home, or gets put down for a nap when we get home. But, he can tolerate this, and I'm sure other kids wont. But for US, we dont revolve our lives around his napping.
Not to be snarky or anything just an observation.
You say that Camden is a "terror" and hit the "terrible twos" really early for months now. Do you think it is possible because he doesn't have routine or structure? I noticed I would get more tantrums when we went out of routine with DS. Some kids need more routine. DS also have a horrible time with transitions and that is in his IEP on working with transitions and giving him heads up prior to changing the routine. It has worked for us. Not sure if Camden would be able to fully grasp that but maybe a routine would help him. At least a solid nap time would be beneficial.
I agree with @therealmc, but I also think it depends on the childs temperment to an extent. Maybe its just because I've always taken Camden out not depending on nap time so thats why he does good with it, or its just how he is. But I dont plan around naptime. He will nap when he's tired, whether it be in the car on the way home, or when we get home. If we're going to lunch with someone, I see if maybe he'll sleep before. Now that he's older he wont do that, so he skips a nap, and either takes a quick 10 mintue snooze on the way there, sleeps on the way home, or gets put down for a nap when we get home. But, he can tolerate this, and I'm sure other kids wont. But for US, we dont revolve our lives around his napping.
Not to be snarky or anything just an observation.
You say that Camden is a "terror" and hit the "terrible twos" really early for months now. Do you think it is possible because he doesn't have routine or structure? I noticed I would get more tantrums when we went out of routine with DS. Some kids need more routine. DS also have a horrible time with transitions and that is in his IEP on working with transitions and giving him heads up prior to changing the routine. It has worked for us. Not sure if Camden would be able to fully grasp that but maybe a routine would help him. At least a solid nap time would be beneficial.
Oh he certainly has structure. We go out maybe once or twice a week, and then I will go after he wakes up (if its a spontaneous trip, like to the park). I am just saying, if I had plans prior I dont plan around his naps. Or if we want to go to the zoo, we go, I dont not go or cancel because he might skip a nap. But he naps everyday we're home (and we're home a lot) at the same times. He takes 2 naps each 1.5 hours, and then sleeps 13 hours at night.
Post by UnicornDog on Jun 28, 2013 11:36:36 GMT -5
I wish I could get delivery more. A lot of places that deliver to me don't even deliver for lunch!
I have some wiggle with E's nap, and I can make afternoon plans and let her nap in the car. She has to nap, though, and I will leave early to make sure she sleeps. Otherwise, she has meltdowns at dinner and wakes up all night.
I understand what you guys mean about feeling unappreciated. H gave me a gift card for a pedicure for mothers' day...and I haven't used it. I asked to go get it a couple times, but he had to work at night, or he wanted to watch a hockey game, or he wanted to go meet a friend for dinner, or or or. I think it's crappy to give somebody a gift like that if you have no intention of making sure they can use it.
My birthday isn't until November, but I feel like I need to start planning it now if I want to do anything, because I planned our last date night for three months. Three months! We still didn't get it together in time to do what we originally planned, mostly because he didn't look at what shows were at the comedy club until the week of, when they were all sold out already. I mean, we still did a date night and had a good time, but it makes me feel like nothing I do is good enough, and I might as well not try to do fun things for either of us because he doesn't care.
My FFFC is ive been really bad at taking prenatals. Like super bad.
As in, I may have taken them a dozen times this pregnancy total.
The dental hygienist asked about medication today and said "well obviously you're taking prenatals". I said yes and felt like a shitty mom. I forgot prenatals were real
Post by orriskitten on Jun 28, 2013 11:47:11 GMT -5
I don't get what the big deal is with manicures and pedicures. I do not like getting them. I find no joy in it at all. I feel awkward, alone and weird the whole time. I was getting them because I'm supposed to be doing something for myself. I feel like it is a waste of $45. I'm not getting any more.
On the other hand, I don't have anything to do for me, so at least getting my nails done I can sit in a chair rather than stand at Starbucks and have nowhere to go since its always packed.