I leave Sass in the car for a couple of minutes on occasion, when it is cool. I wouldn't do it to go in the store, but if it was cool enough outside (under 70 degrees) and the windows were down, I don't think it is horrible. Any hotter than that though, and the car can be an oven so so fast, even with the windows cracked.
Ditto.
I don't take Jack on road trips from socal to SF during summer because I can't wrangle him and the kid during breaks. But during the winter, if I do take him, it's cold (50-60 degrees) in the car, it's cold when I go in to use the restroom, and it's cold when I come back 10min later. And judging by the number if dogs we met along the way at various gas stations & restaurants along I-5, I'm not the only one.
OK, oregonpachey, do you know the inside temp of the car when you returned to it?
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The sun was almost down since it was almost 9pm so the car wasn't in the sun.Â
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Don't feel bad. It was 9pm with windows cracked and a quick 5minute run in. It wasn't like you left a baby in the car for 5 minutes. Now THAT'S a whole different ball game.
The sun was almost down since it was almost 9pm so the car wasn't in the sun.
I feel really bad now.
Don't feel bad. It was 9pm with windows cracked and a quick 5minute run in. It wasn't like you left a baby in the car for 5 minutes. Now THAT'S a whole different ball game.
Well, yes and no. Though I admitted to leaving my dog for a few minutes to run in before, though I followed my guidelines for doing so, the risk is still there. Which, thanks to the handy dandy charts posted, make total and absolute sense and I won't be doing that again until fall like temperatures come into play, if I have to for some reason.
Lots of people consider their dogs their babies, if you will. I would never leave a child in a hot or slightly warm car unattended and without the ability to cool themselves down. By the same token, we shouldn't be doing it to dogs.
The reason people DO do it with dogs though, is mostly the mindset that dogs go outdoors anyway, dogs are pretty tough, and if you leave windows down, that should be enough air flow. And in certain temperatures it IS enough. In certain temperatures I'd leave a kid by themselves without worrying they'd over heat or freeze (I would never do it, but I'm pointing out that in some temps you could without horrible things happening temp wise).
In reality, babies and dogs aren't any different when it comes to a hot car. A cold car? Dogs can stand cold, you still don't do it for long periods of time, but they can handle it more than a baby could.
So to conclude, I don't really see a "the dog can do it but don't you dare with a baby" mindset. Everyone else is very correct, cars get hot. Both dogs and babies can die of heat in short amounts of time.
ETA: This all might not even make sense. It's 4am. I blame the late night. Especially since I had to go back and fill in all the words I missed. ha
Anddddd I'm stepping out of this debate. She can't take back what happened & the dog was fine, this time. My final opinion? Use your own discretion, OP. I won't burn you at the stake.
Anddddd I'm stepping out of this debate. She can't take back what happened & the dog was fine, this time. My final opinion? Use your own discretion, OP. I won't burn you at the stake.
I wasn't arguing with you. I was pointing out that both dogs and babies are rather fragile and that babies aren't that huge a leap from dogs being left in cars.
Yeah, I'm glad to hear you won't be doing this again. Obviously you didn't realize how quickly car temps can rise, which I think a lot of people don't, but now you know, and you won't make the same mistake twice. No need to feel bad.
The sun was almost down since it was almost 9pm so the car wasn't in the sun.
I feel really bad now.
Don't feel bad. It was 9pm with windows cracked and a quick 5minute run in. It wasn't like you left a baby in the car for 5 minutes. Now THAT'S a whole different ball game.
It's not a whole different ball game. Dogs are like family members for a lot of people. Neither a dog or a child should be left in a car. Dogs have lots of hair and can overheat pretty quickly.
I think 5 minutes is ok at 85 degrees and I also think the dude was right to be pissed and worried. I say this as I called 911 on a toddler alone in a car in the fall. It was a busy street and I waited 10 minutes. Then the mom came out of the hospital across the street with her newborn and I felt awful, the poor woman was trying to check out after giving birth and left her kid a few minutes with the windows down in his carseat.
So can someone tell me if dogs can overheat in cars?
Only if it is above 45 degrees Fahrenheit and if it is below 43 degrees they will unfortunately freeze to death.
This feels like the appropriate place to tell you guys I leave my dog in the car all the time in the summer with the car running and the ac on. I usually take the extra keys and lock his ass in there but I have forgotten and just left him in there with the car running and unlocked. If I ever get yelled at for risking my dog getting stolen I am just going to creepily whisper "married life...."
Honestly I think it was fine Comparing a dog to us havin a fur coat on is different They aren't humans with coats, they are dogs. They sweat differently (panting is like us sweating. ) Would we die or even be in danger just because we sat in a car sweating? So everyone without ac in their car dies when they are stuck in traffic sweating? If you'd rather not do it again, great, but I really don't think it was all that dramatic really
Panting is how they sweat!!!! If u saw a person in a car with some windows down waiting while someone ran in the store would you be all OMG I'm waiting here to chastise the person? People and dogs are different Everyone knows that so I just can't understand this outrage
Honestly I think it was fine Comparing a dog to us havin a fur coat on is different They aren't humans with coats, they are dogs. They sweat differently (panting is like us sweating. ) Would we die or even be in danger just because we sat in a car sweating? So everyone without ac in their car dies when they are stuck in traffic sweating? If you'd rather not do it again, great, but I really don't think it was all that dramatic really
Yes, people- often babies- die from sitting in cars "sweating" during the summer.
This was not a helpless strapped in baby, it was a freely moving dog that can stick his/her snout out the OPEN window and get air Entirely different
The sun was almost down since it was almost 9pm so the car wasn't in the sun.
I feel really bad now.
Don't feel bad. It was 9pm with windows cracked and a quick 5minute run in. It wasn't like you left a baby in the car for 5 minutes. Now THAT'S a whole different ball game.
Are you kidding? I'd rather leave a baby in the car than a pet if I had to discuss it on these boards. I'd also rather discuss how I like to grind up small children and sprinkle them over my cheerios in the morning than discuss a pet issue on these boards. But that's me... :-)
Honestly I think it was fine Comparing a dog to us havin a fur coat on is different They aren't humans with coats, they are dogs. They sweat differently (panting is like us sweating. ) Would we die or even be in danger just because we sat in a car sweating? So everyone without ac in their car dies when they are stuck in traffic sweating? If you'd rather not do it again, great, but I really don't think it was all that dramatic really
This is stupid.
Great contribution Toledo
It's factual, not stupid thx. Dogs can freely move in the car and put their snout to the window for air It's foolish to think its so awful Op if you aren't comfortable doing it again fine but I wouldn't be overly concerned Learn some dog anatomy and physiology before comparing them to a human with a fur coat on
Don't feel bad. It was 9pm with windows cracked and a quick 5minute run in. It wasn't like you left a baby in the car for 5 minutes. Now THAT'S a whole different ball game.
Are you kidding? I'd rather leave a baby in the car than a pet if I had to discuss it on these boards. I'd also rather discuss how I like to grind up small children and sprinkle them over my cheerios in the morning than discuss a pet issue on these boards. But that's me... :-)
Seriously I thought it was just the crazy pets board I do 100% agree long term leaving in the car over certain temp isn't appropriate, nothing in the op suggests to me she did something wrong And I have two dogs whom are my fourth and fifth children for crying out loud and I still don't see the outrage
It's factual, not stupid thx. Dogs can freely move in the car and put their snout to the window for air It's foolish to think its so awful Op if you aren't comfortable doing it again fine but I wouldn't be overly concerned Learn some dog anatomy and physiology before comparing them to a human with a fur coat on
you do understand that A) 100 degrees is hot to all living warm-blooded creatures; B) the OP has already said that she won't do it again; and C) no one is skewering anyone over this admitted lapse in judgment. you're leaping in defense of a vast void of nothing right here.
Panting is how they sweat!!!! If u saw a person in a car with some windows down waiting while someone ran in the store would you be all OMG I'm waiting here to chastise the person? People and dogs are different Everyone knows that so I just can't understand this outrage
Oh, it's very clear that you just don't understand.
Are u a veterinarian? Or maybe a vet tech? U need to learn the basics of dogs physiology before acting like a know it all
This was not a helpless strapped in baby, it was a freely moving dog that can stick his/her snout out the OPEN window and get air Entirely different
Just because a dog can get FRESH air doesn't mean it cannot die because of being in a hot car.
She said it was a very short time I see dogs in cars all the time with windows down None of them are all fucking weak and listless because their terrible owner had to grab milk. I will never in a million yrs believe that a dog could die of heatstroke in a car with windows down after being there a short time
Post by littlesthobo on Jul 9, 2013 8:53:53 GMT -5
My Dad sometimes leaves his dog in the car while he runs in to the store to get an ice cream cone. For the two of them. To share. That's all I have to add.