Finally, citations from real journals. Oh, wait, nevermind. A blog post and a self published journal.
Dude, that "Mark's Daily Apple" guy makes me want to stab him. All his BS about "lectins," and everything he write that contains links...they all link to other shit he's written.
We are trying Paleo. I have to admit -- I feel pretty fantastic. I really don't miss...bread. WTF is that all about? I feel weird for NOT missing it.
I am not a fad dieter. I was on WW forever 10+ years. But I was eating my points in cereal and ice cream and hungry... all the time.
The weirdest things I've noticed so far:
I am not in the mood for breakfast. I usually have a banana and a few almonds before I head to the gym. My workouts are NUTS -- I have so much energy!
Lunch holds me over until dinner. Can't say it was like that with carbs and processed foods. And meals are SIMPLE.
We aren't perfect. I still have Splenda in my coffee (cut it down by half) and I love diet iced tea (I hate water outside of workouts). I do cook with some butter. But it's a big change.
I don't understand why Robb Wolf has diet sodas as "ok" in moderation. Anyone know?
Weight loss? Eh. Not sure yet. DH lost weight immediately bc he is a man and I want to kick him in the balls for quick weight loss. Me? .5lbs. We shall see.
Post by dutchgirl678 on Jun 20, 2012 22:19:41 GMT -5
I believe that clean eating is a large part of this. But grains are a big problem. We are made to believe it's an essential part of our diet when it's really just a marketing ploy because grains are easy to grow. But most of the big companies producing grains use GMO and I'm not convinced that is good for you in the long run. In addition, grains and gluten cause many problems in people. For me, I feel it immediately when I eat grains, it makes my mid section bloated. And I used to eat way too much grains (bread at least once a day, pasta once a week).
You can eat tree nuts in moderation. There are lots of good websites out there with recipes. Check out Fast Paleo (great iPhone app too), Nom Nom Paleo, Everyday Paleo and PaleOMG.
Eating sugar is bad for creating fat in your body but eating animal fat actually gives you energy and sustains you longer. I usually eat eggs and bacon for breakfast. Or do a scramble with eggs, ham, spinach or bell peppers or something like that. We get our bacon at a local health store so we know it's nitrate free and local. It's only $5 a lb so not much more expensive than pre-packaged.
What exactly is someone missing out on without legumes & grains?
That's what I was asking. And the links you gave me didn't really answer that question. One one hand you've got tons of scientific evidence saying legumes are good, full of protein, antioxidants, vitamins, nutrients, etc. So yay legumes, right?
Then on the other hand, you've got Paleo now saying "Legumes, no", and I have yet to see anything that really gives a solid reason why. They may trigger your immune system to turn against your own body. They may hinder nutrient absorption. That's a lot of 'may' and still not an answer for me.
Look, I'm not criticizing. I'm the biggest proponent of do what works for you, and don't box everyone into one diet. I'm not going to criticize you for doing something if it works for you (unless it's really stupid like HCG or those nasal feeding tube things). I truly don't understand this principle, and based on this information, I guess I'll continue to not understand it. Thanks for trying though.
Post by basilosaurus on Jun 21, 2012 0:09:28 GMT -5
Let's see, legumes. A cheap source of protein, iron, phosphorus... oh, and they taste good. Sure, people can get that elsewhere, but why demonize an entire genus? B/c some quack claims some vague form of evolutionary pseudoscientific woo?
Pasta is delicious. I eat to enjoy myself, too. But, also, I don't see hordes of Italians complaining about their bloat and lethargy. Add in that grains are an important dietary complement to legumes for people not eating meat, and they're for more than just enjoyment. Just b/c Americans get fat eating Olive Garden size portions of pasta doesn't mean that grains make you fat.
I'm going to scream if I hear another person lament their lack of weight loss after they've dutifully taken off the bun on their big macs.
The irony I see with all this bean/phytic acid stuff is that these same people eat tons and tons of meat and willfully ignore any study related to the deleterious effects of meat. I'm not going to demonize meat, either, but there are actual numerous real published studies correlating its consumption to cancer and coronary disease, but, no, it's the beans that are bad.
I believe that clean eating is a large part of this. But grains are a big problem. We are made to believe it's an essential part of our diet when it's really just a marketing ploy because grains are easy to grow. But most of the big companies producing grains use GMO and I'm not convinced that is good for you in the long run. In addition, grains and gluten cause many problems in people. For me, I feel it immediately when I eat grains, it makes my mid section bloated. And I used to eat way too much grains (bread at least once a day, pasta once a week).
You can eat tree nuts in moderation. There are lots of good websites out there with recipes. Check out Fast Paleo (great iPhone app too), Nom Nom Paleo, Everyday Paleo and PaleOMG.
Eating sugar is bad for creating fat in your body but eating animal fat actually gives you energy and sustains you longer. I usually eat eggs and bacon for breakfast. Or do a scramble with eggs, ham, spinach or bell peppers or something like that. We get our bacon at a local health store so we know it's nitrate free and local. It's only $5 a lb so not much more expensive than pre-packaged.
I have a weird internet twitch where I have to comment whenever I see this.
99.9% of the time, when you see "nitrate free" bacon, what you are actually buying is bacon with no artificially derived nitrates added. "Nitrate Free" bacon is typically cured using celery salt or similar natural compounds which are rich in naturally occuring....wait for it.....nitrates. So yay for local, but nitrate free is a bunch of hooey unless your bacon cooks up the light grayish-brown color of regular pork instead of normal reddish-brown bacon color. If it's pink, it's cured. And it's cured using nitrates.
The irony I see with all this bean/phytic acid stuff is that these same people eat tons and tons of meat and willfully ignore any study related to the deleterious effects of meat. I'm not going to demonize meat, either, but there are actual numerous real published studies correlating its consumption to cancer and coronary disease, but, no, it's the beans that are bad.
Needless to say, epphd was an excellent advocate on this point. I credit her with reinforcing my desire to cut back on red meat. I'm sort of surprised that I don't miss it more than I do because I love me some dead cow.
All I know is that it is a crime to live in NYC and not eat bagels at least every once in a while. I'm all for a lower-carb diet since it has been helpful for me, but you can pry my delicious (occasional) bagels from my cold, dead hands.
All I know is that it is a crime to live in NYC and not eat bagels at least every once in a while. I'm all for a lower-carb diet since it has been helpful for me, but you can pry my delicious (occasional) bagels from my cold, dead hands.
When I go home to CT to visit my parents, there had better be some sweet NYC-style bagels there for me to eat or someone will get hurt.
Healthy doesn't actually require cult-like restrictions, rules, and a diet messiah.
It doesn't??? But cult-y eating has worked so well for us time and time again
And yeah, 8-D at any prescriptive diet unless it is specifically designed for one individual. The rules of healthy eating are simple, few and don't change, everyone just seems to want a more complicated answer when there just isn't one.
And where in NYC are the good bagels? Please say it's not H&H! I still have hope but so far the best bagels I've encountered have been from *gasp* NJ :/ If I had zero credibility before I am now in negative territory.