Am I crazy to think that if they go against the dress code then they shouldn't be the uniforms? I don't think those skirts are vulgar and to be honest, i really dont care what cheerleader uniforms look like. But if they are against the schools dress code, why are they outfits that represent the school during school activities?
Gymnastics leotards, swim team apparel, wrestling singlets, volleyball shorts etc would all be against most dress codes, too, but are perfectly acceptable when they're actually being used for an activity.
I don't really see a problem with those particular cheerleading uniforms (there are much, much worse ones) as far as athletic uniforms and I can't figure out why PP's suggestion about all team members wearing their team track suits on game/meet days is such a hard concept to grasp.
Ummm. really? dress codes are to help prevent those poor male teachers from being aroused by the sight of a short skirt on a student? I've not heard that before.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who went at that.
Thank you. I was reading through the thread to see if anyone else pointed that out. I was going to be really surprised if it slipped by.
Post by mrsjuleshs on Aug 29, 2013 14:05:03 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with having to wear leggings under them. I see nothing wrong with the uniform top. All of the school uniforms here look similar to that and they have since before I was in high school. DD's competitive cheer uniform is long sleeved but open midriff. They require the girls to wear a tshirt over it unless back in the practice room or out on the floor. If the school thinks the skirts are too short, they can order new ones that are longer.
Am I crazy to think that if they go against the dress code then they shouldn't be the uniforms? I don't think those skirts are vulgar and to be honest, i really dont care what cheerleader uniforms look like. But if they are against the schools dress code, why are they outfits that represent the school during school activities?
Gymnastics leotards, swim team apparel, wrestling singlets, volleyball shorts etc would all be against most dress codes, too, but are perfectly acceptable when they're actually being used for an activity.
I don't really see a problem with those particular cheerleading uniforms (there are much, much worse ones) as far as athletic uniforms and I can't figure out why PP's suggestion about all team members wearing their team track suits on game/meet days is such a hard concept to grasp.
Ditto this.
Those uniforms are a far cry from what cheerleading uniforms were when I was in school, but the routines they do aren't anywhere in the same league either. When I was in, it was pleated mid-length skirts and a polo shirt (with a wool sweater if it was cold). But the most we did was a few jumps and the dreaded pyramid. Now they're doing full on gymnastics and it makes sense that they would need a more streamlined uniform.
My sister is still in high school and she goes to the same school I went to, so I checked with her. For home games, all athletes wear track suits to school. For away games, its dress shirts, ties and slacks for boys, dress slacks, dress code appropriate skirts, and blouses for girls.
No one is allowed to wear their uniform or jersey to school.
Am I crazy to think that if they go against the dress code then they shouldn't be the uniforms? I don't think those skirts are vulgar and to be honest, i really dont care what cheerleader uniforms look like. But if they are against the schools dress code, why are they outfits that represent the school during school activities?
Gymnastics leotards, swim team apparel, wrestling singlets, volleyball shorts etc would all be against most dress codes, too, but are perfectly acceptable when they're actually being used for an activity.
I don't really see a problem with those particular cheerleading uniforms (there are much, much worse ones) as far as athletic uniforms and I can't figure out why PP's suggestion about all team members wearing their team track suits on game/meet days is such a hard concept to grasp.
This is true, but a lot of sports attire that doesn't pass dress code is actually important for the sport. Gymnasts can't wear bulky clothes without risk of hurting themselves getting caught on equipment. It would be silly to require swimmers to wear t-shirt and shorts - imagine how much they'd be slowed down! Cheerleaders can (and at many schools do) wear skirts that come down below their fingertips without affecting their performance, which actually isn't even competitive at most schools.
All of that said, we either dressed up or wore our warm-ups to school on game days (depending on the sport and season) so I don't have a problem requiring the cheerleaders to wear something consistent with the dress code while in class.
All of which has absolutely nothing to do with protecting those poor male teachers from impure thoughts, of course. Back to the dark ages we go!
Football, softball and volleyball players wore their jerseys to school on game days, not their whole outfit. We didn't run around in cleats and knee pads and helmets all day. Where the shirt and something appropriate on the bottom.
The male players at my school wore slacks with a shirt and tie. I want to say the girls wore something similar (slacks and a blouse) but I honestly can't remember. I know the cheerleaders wore their uniforms, but theres were not as skanky. Their skirts were baggier and just a little above the knee.
I am just confused as to why the uniforms at this school would violate dress code. That is strange. I am pretty sure ours had to conform with school dress code.
How is it strange? Tons of athletic uniforms violate dress code. My sisters were gymnasts and had to wear a long-sleeve leotard for meets. They definitely didn't fit dress code.
Or their warm up outfit - that seems appropriate. Our cheerleaders (c/o 1994) wore something similar to the picture, but the skirt was pleated at the bottom instead of just straight. However, it came an inch below the butt cheeks so the girls with rounder bums showed a little of the shorts-covered cheeks if they bent over even half an inch.
That always used to bother me. If everyone else's skirts had to come to the tip of their fingertips or no more than 3 inches above the knee, why could the cheerleaders flaunt around like that? And talk about tempting the teachers. I can't count how many times a male teacher blinked really hard as if to wipe away unclean/unprofessional thoughts when a cheerleader came in the room. Most of these were very good men you'd never think would hook up with a student (most of them... there were suspicions about a couple of them). So I was uncomfortable with the attention the outfits drew to the girls, and I always thought, "there's a dress code for a reason - we're not here to walk around being sexy; we're here to learn!"
But they had an exception to the dress code rule because it encouraged school spirit on game days. insert eye roll.
Ahhh looking back on this it is no wonder I was so very much like Kat in 10 Things I Hate About You.
Ummm. really? dress codes are to help prevent those poor male teachers from being aroused by the sight of a short skirt on a student? I've not heard that before.
no wawa of course not. But to make sure students are not inappropriately revealing in general at the high school level, yes. Think back to high school. I remember it being very sexually charged with all the horny teenagers. Low cut shirts and mini skirts do not help. I wouldn't see male students' facial expressions because if I wasn't in the front row I was looking at the backs of their heads. What I remember are the teacher reactions so I was referencing that.
Other parts of the dress code address other issues but did you think the length of skirts and dip of cleavage was regulated for any other reason? Elementary school skirts were mid thigh or longer. Skirt lengths and shorts lengths in dress codes got longer as girls got older.
Eta I noticed my daughter's elementary school dress code has longer shorts/skirts requirements. Do I think that is about sexually-related distractions among peers, no of course not. Do I think it makes it easier to transition as they get older when that IS an issue? Yes.
And talk about tempting the teachers. I can't count how many times a male teacher blinked really hard as if to wipe away unclean/unprofessional thoughts when a cheerleader came in the room. Most of these were very good men you'd never think would hook up with a student (most of them... there were suspicions about a couple of them).
(huh)
rolling eyes, read paragraph above.
One can argue that dress codes in general sexualize female students. They set rules about what is appropriate or not and give girls ideas about how much of their skin they can expose without being immoral. That is a whole other topic.
But I can see the line about tempting the teachers causing the concern and eyebrow raise reaction. The short skirts could be considered tempting to all males when all other girls around have knee length skirts. I had a visual in my head of the teachers' reactions and wrote it accordingly but should have read it through before hitting post.
But look, on one hand you could argue dress codes in general create a sexualization of girls by drawing an arbitrary line regarding what is proper or not. Anything outside of that limit is assumed to be intentional to draw attention. We aren't arguing the merits of dress codes overall. We are discussing the uniforms and if all other girls are wearing lengths to their knees, the cheerleader uniforms are going to be eye popping and distracting, whether talking about teachers or students.
The tighter the skirt the less it shows during tumbling. A pleated skirt pretty much is guaranteed to show some ass.
But when you do something like a toe touch, doesn't the skirt ride up to their waist? Do they then have to pull it down or does it somehow magically go back into place.