You think it sucks for a kid to have a lifetime of religious enrichment over the one day a year they get free candy? Not all religious people are oppressed, lol.
lol. "Kinda" sucks not to get the candy a kid might expect on a day where kids are pretty much told to expect... candy. I'm speaking from what I imagine my perspective probably was as a kid, not as 35yo me.
I grew up religious, and was not oppressed, either. I think you might be reading a bit much into my statements here, which were meant to be a bit TIC in response to the OP, not any kind of anti-religious tirade.
For the third time, noe, I apologize if if I offended. It was unintentional.
So you didn't experience this anti-TOT first hand? As in, you did get to go?
I don't think anyone acted poorly here. FarmVille was a good neighbor, and has no reason to feel bad. The religious neighbors shouldn't have to put up a Boo'ed sign - I would read the fall festival invitation as an indirect way of telling people they don't want to be booed - and I think it was totally appropriate to pass the gift on.
HOWEVER, I don't understand the biblical basis for shunning Halloween at all. I feel like a lot more Christians shun it now than in the past, and it is all part of this "holier than thou" crap. Somehow, it is linked to be anti-gay in my mind, because the same people are anti-both. And I think it of really part of an attempt to self-marginalize into martyrdom.
A big reason some Christians avoid Halloween is because it has a lot of roots in pagan rituals and it celebrates things like witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible. I don't shun Halloween, but Abby is not allowed to dress up as a witch or devil or anything like that. Fantasy stuff, sure, but things that are real and go against our beliefs? No, she's not going to pretend to be those. I guess you could say we do "Halloween lite."
However, it does not mean we are "holier than thou." We've made a choice about what we believe and respect other people's right to do the same. We may not agree, but it doesn't mean we think we're better.
Even if I didn't drink or celebrated Halloween, I would still be completely overjoyed that a neighbor went out of their way to make my family and I happy with gifts. I don't get people.
My kid was at a home daycare and I tried to give the owner a gift card for Xmas. She was JW. I felt super awkward. Especially since she pointed out there was no Xmas decorations in her home and maybe I could have taken that as a hint. At least you had no way of knowing! I think your neighbors giving it away was the best choice they could have made.
Post by snipsnsnails on Oct 31, 2013 12:04:24 GMT -5
I think it's sort of weird to regift something when you don't know who the giver is. I know they have their little explanation, but what if that had been the giver? Huh, guess there's no great way to get around it.
I don't think anyone acted poorly here. FarmVille was a good neighbor, and has no reason to feel bad. The religious neighbors shouldn't have to put up a Boo'ed sign - I would read the fall festival invitation as an indirect way of telling people they don't want to be booed - and I think it was totally appropriate to pass the gift on.
HOWEVER, I don't understand the biblical basis for shunning Halloween at all. I feel like a lot more Christians shun it now than in the past, and it is all part of this "holier than thou" crap. Somehow, it is linked to be anti-gay in my mind, because the same people are anti-both. And I think it of really part of an attempt to self-marginalize into martyrdom.
A big reason some Christians avoid Halloween is because it has a lot of roots in pagan rituals and it celebrates things like witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible. I don't shun Halloween, but Abby is not allowed to dress up as a witch or devil or anything like that. Fantasy stuff, sure, but things that are real and go against our beliefs? No, she's not going to pretend to be those. I guess you could say we do "Halloween lite."
However, it does not mean we are "holier than thou." We've made a choice about what we believe and respect other people's right to do the same. We may not agree, but it doesn't mean we think we're better.
But aren't there pagan influences in how most christian holidays are celebrated?
A big reason some Christians avoid Halloween is because it has a lot of roots in pagan rituals and it celebrates things like witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible. I don't shun Halloween, but Abby is not allowed to dress up as a witch or devil or anything like that. Fantasy stuff, sure, but things that are real and go against our beliefs? No, she's not going to pretend to be those. I guess you could say we do "Halloween lite."
However, it does not mean we are "holier than thou." We've made a choice about what we believe and respect other people's right to do the same. We may not agree, but it doesn't mean we think we're better.
But aren't there pagan influences in how most christian holidays are celebrated?
Yes. Keep in mind, I was relaying what others have told me, so I'm not sure how people decide which holidays to avoid vs. which ones are okay. Speaking for myself and my family, we just avoid emulating or celebrating things related to witchcraft and demonic stuff.
A big reason some Christians avoid Halloween is because it has a lot of roots in pagan rituals and it celebrates things like witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible. I don't shun Halloween, but Abby is not allowed to dress up as a witch or devil or anything like that. Fantasy stuff, sure, but things that are real and go against our beliefs? No, she's not going to pretend to be those. I guess you could say we do "Halloween lite."
However, it does not mean we are "holier than thou." We've made a choice about what we believe and respect other people's right to do the same. We may not agree, but it doesn't mean we think we're better.
Are you saying that devils are real?
As a Christian, yes, I believe in the existence of Satan. Do I believe in the image people have crafted about him? No. But I do believe in the embodiment of evil.
A big reason some Christians avoid Halloween is because it has a lot of roots in pagan rituals and it celebrates things like witchcraft, which are forbidden in the Bible. I don't shun Halloween, but Abby is not allowed to dress up as a witch or devil or anything like that. Fantasy stuff, sure, but things that are real and go against our beliefs? No, she's not going to pretend to be those. I guess you could say we do "Halloween lite."
However, it does not mean we are "holier than thou." We've made a choice about what we believe and respect other people's right to do the same. We may not agree, but it doesn't mean we think we're better.
Are you saying that devils are real?
I was getting really concerned that no one was zeroing in on this this LOL toledo to the rescue.