And what about Lilly? There's absolutely no life update about her except she's a baby factory.
I'm actually okay with this. Not every women has high career aspirations. I actually think it was nice that they focused on Marshall and Lily's family as opposed to their careers. It made sense to mention Marshall's. And Lily was never really career- driven, IMO. She seems to jump around a little.
That's fine. But they didn't even so much as say "lilly decided to be a stay home mom" if that's the case. There was literally nothing but "oh! Pregnant again!" and "I'm so sad everyone is always leaving me." She was just kinda along for the ride in the finale.
i liked it. didnt LOVE all of it but because the death thing has been talked about for a while i was prepared.
i was ok with ted ending up with robin. he had 9 years with his soulmate and had the kids/wife/marriage he wanted and then when he lost it he grieved for 6 years(i think thats what the kids said) and then was able to find happiness again. i think i kind of expected that with how Robin-centric the whole show was. i do think it was totally out of character for him not to want to get married sooner. but maybe they were trying to portray the fact that he changed cause the mother was different, like when lily could tell when he was talking to her on the phone. i really liked the mother and i think it was cute they had the same initials. i think it was odd they they didnt mention Luke.
i was sad that barney didnt have the family life he wanted. that he had to wait awhile to have a baby and then didnt even love the mother. i really felt he could have changed if he had found the right wife from the start. i hated that he just went back to being Barney, choosing the easiest route vs the harder - changing for the better. at first i liked robin and barney together but then barney started to change and i knew it wouldnt work out.
did NOT like the wardrobe. Lily look HORRIBLE in that costume!
I keep coming back to this thread like I think rehashing the episode to death will somehow get it off my mind
I'm embarrassed at how long I stuck with this series and how invested I got. I was so worked up over the crappy finale last night that I had trouble falling asleep
Lazy writing just really, really bothers me. This is why I hardly ever go to the movies or follow TV shows.
did NOT like the wardrobe. Lily look HORRIBLE in that costume!
I guess they were going for some big emotional heartbreaking moment when Lily was standing in the empty apartment and crying, but I was laughing hysterically at her standing there in a spandex whale costume with the little hood over her head. Probably not what they were going for.
did NOT like the wardrobe. Lily look HORRIBLE in that costume!
I guess they were going for some big emotional heartbreaking moment when Lily was standing in the empty apartment and crying, but I was laughing hysterically at her standing there in a spandex whale costume with the little hood over her head. Probably not what they were going for.
I did love the mother's costume to match the hanging chad.
did NOT like the wardrobe. Lily look HORRIBLE in that costume!
I guess they were going for some big emotional heartbreaking moment when Lily was standing in the empty apartment and crying, but I was laughing hysterically at her standing there in a spandex whale costume with the little hood over her head. Probably not what they were going for.
haha, we kept calling it the "sperm whale" costume. Because, well....she kinda looked like a giant sperm
did NOT like the wardrobe. Lily look HORRIBLE in that costume!
I guess they were going for some big emotional heartbreaking moment when Lily was standing in the empty apartment and crying, but I was laughing hysterically at her standing there in a spandex whale costume with the little hood over her head. Probably not what they were going for.
I guess they were going for some big emotional heartbreaking moment when Lily was standing in the empty apartment and crying, but I was laughing hysterically at her standing there in a spandex whale costume with the little hood over her head. Probably not what they were going for.
I did love the mother's costume to match the hanging chad.
I liked that, too. A lot.
It was a mistake to introduce her for season 9 and let us get to know her a bit, if they were just going to have her die off-screen and have 2030 Ted include that as a minor footnote in his longass story about how he's never gotten over Robin (even though he's "gotten over her" a ton of times before the finale, like when he walked out of his apartment into a sea of yellow umbrellas or where she TURNED INTO A BALLOON AND FLOATED AWAY). What a slap in the face to the supposed love of his life.
I did love the mother's costume to match the hanging chad.
I liked that, too. A lot.
It was a mistake to introduce her for season 9 and let us get to know her a bit, if they were just going to have her die off-screen and have 2030 Ted include that as a minor footnote in his longass story about how he's never gotten over Robin (even though he's "gotten over her" a ton of times before the finale, like when he walked out of his apartment into a sea of yellow umbrellas or where she TURNED INTO A BALLOON AND FLOATED AWAY). What a slap in the face to the supposed love of his life.
It was a mistake to introduce her for season 9 and let us get to know her a bit, if they were just going to have her die off-screen and have 2030 Ted include that as a minor footnote in his longass story about how he's never gotten over Robin (even though he's "gotten over her" a ton of times before the finale, like when he walked out of his apartment into a sea of yellow umbrellas or where she TURNED INTO A BALLOON AND FLOATED AWAY). What a slap in the face to the supposed love of his life.
Not to mention her children!
Totally disagree. His kids seemed genuinely happy that their dad was interested in Aunt Robin.
It was a mistake to introduce her for season 9 and let us get to know her a bit, if they were just going to have her die off-screen and have 2030 Ted include that as a minor footnote in his longass story about how he's never gotten over Robin (even though he's "gotten over her" a ton of times before the finale, like when he walked out of his apartment into a sea of yellow umbrellas or where she TURNED INTO A BALLOON AND FLOATED AWAY). What a slap in the face to the supposed love of his life.
Not to mention her children!
I think that these two points are what bothered me the most. I'm glad I didn't watch this season and just tuned in for the finale. I am just mildly annoyed rather than being really angry like a lot of other viewers.
Totally disagree. His kids seemed genuinely happy that their dad was interested in Aunt Robin.
I don't think it's unnatural that the kids want him to move on and be happy.
Their flippant attitude was really weird, though ... "Yeah, yeah, yeah, this was supposed to be a story about our dead mother but it's really about you and Aunt Robin hooking up for the millionth time. So go bang her already!"
I don't object to their choice of ending in theory. The structure leading up to it was a fucking mess. It could've been handled way, WAY better than it was. Instead they wasted our time with filler, expected us to ignore a bunch of stuff (Ted and Robin repeatedly saying that they're not in love and their relationship doesn't work, plus Ted not marrying Tracy until 2020 even though the character was desperate to get married and even though they'd shown him wearing a wedding ring in 2015), and hastily crammed a bunch of important plot points into the last 30-60 minutes of the series.
i really hope someone puts alllllll the flash forwards together in chronological order on youtube! sometimes i get confused as to what happen before or after other events
This is my issue. I get that this series is more about the story telling factor. But to spend the season leading up to the wedding on pure shit, then pack all that into the finale was not good planning at all. The storyline of the mother should have more meat to it. The Robin factor in the end would have made more sense too had the writers developed the storyline better. All that in one episode is just too much.
And they wasted our time leading up to the finale.
I'm not upset about him ending up with Robin. But the mother needed more time on the show. It was too rushed
.::gavel::.
Because I cannot walk away from this thread for some reason..
Yes, I agree with a lot of this. I even think the ending would have been good after the second, third, even fourth season. But after that? They really needed to reevaluate.
I didn't like Robin & Barney together. It took me a LONG time to warm up to them, but then I did because I was basically made to with everything they went through. And then, they broke them up.
I was worried I would dislike the mother. She had been so built up and casting her had to be difficult. But then I DID like the mother. A lot. And they killed her.
They knew he'd end up with Robin and instead of giving us extra time with the mother, they gave us 2 seasons of complete filler.
Then, they make Robin disappear from the gang for several years, and make her look almost cold. I mean, I get it. Being a part of that group would be hard. But they make her sound awful - she's not there for her friends any more, she has disappeared, and all that. But then they expect me to be happy when she ends up with Ted?
Like...what? I feel like there were so many missteps and honestly him ending up with Robin is minuscule compared to how they just butchered the story and characters.
Yes!
Everyone who is pooh-poohing the people who didn't like it keeps saying that they don't get that the point of the story was his life (with Robin) up until he met The Mother. They're ignoring the fact that NONE OF IT MAKES ANY SENSE.
I didn't like the idea of Barney having a baby, because it suggested that a baby would immediately and forever "fix" him. Like people who are in a dead-end relationship and think that getting pregnant will fix their partner. It's a dangerous road to go down.
He didn't care enough about the baby momma to bother telling the gang her actual name (or to actually learn her name himself), and 30 seconds before meeting the baby he was passing out cigars when he thought that the baby might not be his. And then a nurse hands him the baby and he's suddenly in hysterical tears? Please.
And they've "fixed" him so many times on the show that I just didn't buy it this time. They spent all of season 9 and most of season 8 showing us that loving Robin had fixed him, and then all of a sudden he divorces Robin (over a lack of WiFi, apparently???) and he's back to his old tricks.
I don't like how they just figured, "Eh, let's have him knock somebody up" and that would magically make him a better person. Plus I don't like how they wound up giving EVERY character a kid ... Barney has never really wanted his own kids, and Robin made it a point to say that she didn't want them (and the ending strongly suggested that she winds up as a step-mother to Ted's kids). I was really looking forward to seeing a child-free by choice couple on a TV show, who travels the world and has cool adventures and is happy with their life. Or two messed-up people who try to make a marriage work, then divorce and stay friendly-ish, and enjoy their singlehood without kids. Instead they just paired off everyone they could and gave them all kids. UGH.
Exactly. Also, they couldn't have done this in a more misogynistic manner if they tried. I hope the mother of this little girl (and his baby *had* to be a girl right?) finds out about his month long bang quest from his stupid blog and all his other BS over the years and gets him supervised visits only. The more I think about it the angrier I get.
I didn't like the idea of Barney having a baby, because it suggested that a baby would immediately and forever "fix" him. Like people who are in a dead-end relationship and think that getting pregnant will fix their partner. It's a dangerous road to go down.
He didn't care enough about the baby momma to bother telling the gang her actual name (or to actually learn her name himself), and 30 seconds before meeting the baby he was passing out cigars when he thought that the baby might not be his. And then a nurse hands him the baby and he's suddenly in hysterical tears? Please.
And they've "fixed" him so many times on the show that I just didn't buy it this time. They spent all of season 9 and most of season 8 showing us that loving Robin had fixed him, and then all of a sudden he divorces Robin (over a lack of WiFi, apparently???) and he's back to his old tricks.
I don't like how they just figured, "Eh, let's have him knock somebody up" and that would magically make him a better person. Plus I don't like how they wound up giving EVERY character a kid ... Barney has never really wanted his own kids, and Robin made it a point to say that she didn't want them (and the ending strongly suggested that she winds up as a step-mother to Ted's kids). I was really looking forward to seeing a child-free by choice couple on a TV show, who travels the world and has cool adventures and is happy with their life. Or two messed-up people who try to make a marriage work, then divorce and stay friendly-ish, and enjoy their singlehood without kids. Instead they just paired off everyone they could and gave them all kids. UGH.
Exactly. Also, they couldn't have done this in a more misogynistic manner if they tried. I hope the mother of this little girl (and his baby *had* to be a girl right?) finds out about his month long bang quest from his stupid blog and all his other BS over the years and gets him supervised visits only. The more I think about it the angrier I get.
Misogyny has been a HUGE part of this show over the years, especially these last few ... how about the 12 Horny Women episode, where the all-women jury was ready to rule in favor of the bad guy simpyl because he had a six-pack?
And heaven forbid Robin be alone and happy, or at least working on herself, at the end of the series. She needed Ted to come save her from her life of loneliness and being a crazy dog lady.
I'm unaffected by the season finale. I think this is the first show I've watched for any extended period of time (9 years!!!) where I haven't been sad about, nostalgic toward, or otherwise affected by the finale. The finale wasn't done well - there was too much cramming of crap into it. When there was 10 minutes left in the show I was like, they can't possibly kill off the mother and have Ted end up with Robin in 8 minutes, there must be another ending. But they proved me wrong.
I'm ok with the whole final season taking place at Robin and Barney's wedding. Maybe I'm giving the writers too much credit, but it's the turning point in all their lives. Ted meets the mother. Robin and Barney get married, which leads to their divorce, which leads to Robin breaking away from "the gang" and leads to Barney knocking up a random and getting the love of his life (the baby). Robin and Ted officially let each other go. Again. Marshall and Lily endure the biggest test of their marriage (who will sacrifice their dream) and end up more in love and stronger than ever. Blah Blah Blah.
I also don't think they minimized Ted's relationship with the mom. He spent 9 seasons looking for the perfect person for him and he found her. It was clear to me that he loved her and was very happy with her. If they didn't kill her off, he wouldn't have been pining away for Robin. But she died, and Robin was his first real love. The show was all about Ted's life and relationships leading up to when he met the mother, to focus the whole last season on their relationship wouldn't have worked.
Finally, I freaking hated Robin's hair in most of the future scenes.
Now I will wipe my hands of this stupid show and will wait anxiously for the season premiere of Mad Men.
Did we ever get resolution to the goat, the pineapple or the 483920482 other things that we kept hearing "but more about that later"??
They wrote the goat into a scene early in the series ... later on it was revealed that Lily had adopted it from being slaughtered and kept it in the apartment bathroom, then Ted went into the bathroom (at his birthday party, right?) and the goat wound up fighting him.
In the pineapple episode, 2030 Ted says that they never did find out where it came from, but it was delicious (since they all cut it up and shared it in the last scene). The creators said that since there was such an audience demand to know about it, they may include it as a special extra feature on the season 9 DVD. So, if you pony up the cash for their last box set you'll get to find out what happens to a random piece of fruit *insert jerking off hand motion here*
I've never understood why people care about the pineapple.
I struggled with the ending because I still have the personal belief that everyone has *the one*. (I always think of the little kid from Love Actually).
So is the Mother *the one* or is Robin *the one*? Not knowing bothers me.