Look, I can't worry about any more things.

[cinnamoncox]

Jun 3, 2014 10:06:19 GMT -5 @savestheday said:

Jun 3, 2014 9:50:52 GMT -5 @lazerus24 said:

Uh. What?


Did you know what Slenderman is? And the discussion is just NOW happening?

But isn't it just a creepy story/ mythology. I mean kids tell creepy stories all the time. Like .0000000001 percent are so detached from reality they act on them. 

I don't know much about Slenderman though. Is it something that encourages murder or harm? 

I never heard of it before this either and I'm seriously tempted to release my son (15) early from school to talk and make damn sure he doesn't read about it.
I've never heard him mention it.

After googling it, I want to throw up and quit life.

From the little I could read, it or he or whatever the damn Slenderman is, it encourages violence and harm, yes.

::shudders for the rest of my life::

[cinnamoncox]

And as far as sleepovers go, my house. That's it.
Until 12 year olds stop stabbing others 19 times.
I know it's a rare thing, but I don't claim to always be rational.

[thumper55]

I shouldn't have even clicked. These types of stories literally make me hold my breath involuntarily because it's so terrible.

[spitforspat]

Do you also have talks with your kids about Bloody Mary, the boogeyman and vampires? "No matter what you read, you should NOT drink others' blood!"

[textbookcase]

I am a helicopter parent and I regret nothing!!

Ugh, that poor girl. I'm so glad she survived the stabbing.

[julez]

Yeah, this story makes me want to quit the planet.

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[dukesilver]

Jun 3, 2014 8:47:24 GMT -5 puddleofgrace said:

Also, this is another reason I will be all up in my daughters business when it comes to her internet access/activities.
I understand you never know what goes on at someone else's house but damn.

Maybe I should have saved that for a flameful?

Same. I'm sure DD and all of her friends are going to think I'm an overprotective lunatic, but damn, I read stuff like this, and I just don't care.

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[thebuddhagouda]

Jun 3, 2014 11:06:22 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

If everyone only allows sleepovers at their own house, nobody will ever get to sleep over. lol.

I get being wary of other parents, but if you know and meet them and are reasonable about it, why not? KHC's best friends have all slept over at our house and he at theirs; I just met the parents and talked to them a bit and asked pertinent questions about guns and shit like that.

Being cautious is warranted, I think, but when I was a kid I'd have been sad if I couldn't sleep over at my BFF's house.

This is where I am. Random kid from school I know nothing about? Probably not. But E has plenty of friends whose parents I know well, so I would have no problem with him going to their house for a night. At 4, we're not quite there yet, but I'm sure it's coming.

[rosiebear]

Jun 3, 2014 11:06:22 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

If everyone only allows sleepovers at their own house, nobody will ever get to sleep over. lol.

I get being wary of other parents, but if you know and meet them and are reasonable about it, why not? KHC's best friends have all slept over at our house and he at theirs; I just met the parents and talked to them a bit and asked pertinent questions about guns and shit like that.

Being cautious is warranted, I think, but when I was a kid I'd have been sad if I couldn't sleep over at my BFF's house.

I'm with you.  It is not reasonable or healthy, IMO, to forbid a child to sleep anywhere but at home or at Grandma's until he or she leaves for college. 

I also can't quite understand how Slenderman is different from Freddy Krueger, or Bloody Mary, or any other crazed killer/ghost/whatever terrifying thing kids have been kicking around since forever.  I mean, yes, these two disturbed girls glommed onto this, but are our children really at great risk because of this fictional boogeyman?

This is a horrific story, but every once in a while, teenagers will commit some atrocity in the name of "satan," to become immortal vampires, to act out a movie scene or video game scene, or out of sheer boredom and psychopathy.  The world is terrifying, but hiding from sleepovers and sternly talking about Slenderman won't change that.  Which scares the sh*t out of me.

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I heard this on the radio this am. Disgusting. I'm happy they are being charged as adults.

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Jun 3, 2014 11:24:06 GMT -5 rosiebear said:

Jun 3, 2014 11:06:22 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

If everyone only allows sleepovers at their own house, nobody will ever get to sleep over. lol.

I get being wary of other parents, but if you know and meet them and are reasonable about it, why not? KHC's best friends have all slept over at our house and he at theirs; I just met the parents and talked to them a bit and asked pertinent questions about guns and shit like that.

Being cautious is warranted, I think, but when I was a kid I'd have been sad if I couldn't sleep over at my BFF's house.

I'm with you.  It is not reasonable or healthy, IMO, to forbid a child to sleep anywhere but at home or at Grandma's until he or she leaves for college. 

I also can't quite understand how Slenderman is different from Freddy Krueger, or Bloody Mary, or any other crazed killer/ghost/whatever terrifying thing kids have been kicking around since forever.  I mean, yes, these two disturbed girls glommed onto this, but are our children really at great risk because of this fictional boogeyman?

This is a horrific story, but every once in a while, teenagers will commit some atrocity in the name of "satan," to become immortal vampires, to act out a movie scene or video game scene, or out of sheer boredom and psychopathy.  The world is terrifying, but hiding from sleepovers and sternly talking about Slenderman won't change that.  Which scares the sh*t out of me.

This is where I am at. What specifically about this boogeyman is so different? Am I missing something? I was watching some show on Investigation Discovery or something once about kids who kill ( maybe girls specifically, I don't remember) anyways there was a story from 1930 about 2 girls who took there MOTHER for a walk in the woods, and then beat her to death with a rock. Because she forbade them from doing something. These girls were little too,like 8 & 9. It was a sickening story, but it happened way before the internet, before creepy stories online, before violent video games. 

Also the more I think of it this happened the morning after the sleepover, not during. I mean we can't protect our kids from walking to the park with there friends ever right? 

I think the tragedy here is that we can't protect our kids from the mental illness and get them help. 

[cinnamoncox]

Jun 3, 2014 10:53:55 GMT -5 spitforspat said:

Do you also have talks with your kids about Bloody Mary, the boogeyman and vampires? "No matter what you read, you should NOT drink others' blood!"

I see your point, but something I read about these girls in this particular case said they did it to become "proxies" or something, to this Slenderman. Like apostles or something.

Maybe I just don't know enough about the boogeyman and Freddy Kruger, but did people commit crimes to become followers of these fictional characters?

(Serious question I'm not being sarcastic)

[berbles]

Jun 3, 2014 8:27:31 GMT -5 @amoosed said:

Jun 3, 2014 8:05:09 GMT -5 underwaterrhymes said:

They planned this for months, held her down, and stabbed her 19 times.

Sorry, but you don't get to claim you are a child and didn't know any better.

Oh I don't disagree, I was just curious how they determine whether they are tried as adults or children.

I'm pretty sure it's up to the DA to decide.  And as underwater said, the DA considers things like premeditation, viciousness, etc. when determining whether to charge them as adults, what level of attempted murder to charge them with, etc.  It's usually about going for the highest charge the DA thinks he/she can get a conviction on.

[berbles]

Jun 3, 2014 11:52:59 GMT -5 @savestheday said:

Jun 3, 2014 11:24:06 GMT -5 rosiebear said:

I'm with you.  It is not reasonable or healthy, IMO, to forbid a child to sleep anywhere but at home or at Grandma's until he or she leaves for college. 

I also can't quite understand how Slenderman is different from Freddy Krueger, or Bloody Mary, or any other crazed killer/ghost/whatever terrifying thing kids have been kicking around since forever.  I mean, yes, these two disturbed girls glommed onto this, but are our children really at great risk because of this fictional boogeyman?

This is a horrific story, but every once in a while, teenagers will commit some atrocity in the name of "satan," to become immortal vampires, to act out a movie scene or video game scene, or out of sheer boredom and psychopathy.  The world is terrifying, but hiding from sleepovers and sternly talking about Slenderman won't change that.  Which scares the sh*t out of me.

This is where I am at. What specifically about this boogeyman is so different? Am I missing something? I was watching some show on Investigation Discovery or something once about kids who kill ( maybe girls specifically, I don't remember) anyways there was a story from 1930 about 2 girls who took there MOTHER for a walk in the woods, and then beat her to death with a rock. Because she forbade them from doing something. These girls were little too,like 8 & 9. It was a sickening story, but it happened way before the internet, before creepy stories online, before violent video games. 

Also the more I think of it this happened the morning after the sleepover, not during. I mean we can't protect our kids from walking to the park with there friends ever right? 

I think the tragedy here is that we can't protect our kids from the mental illness and get them help. 

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Jun 3, 2014 12:06:29 GMT -5 berbles said:

Jun 3, 2014 11:52:59 GMT -5 @savestheday said:

This is where I am at. What specifically about this boogeyman is so different? Am I missing something? I was watching some show on Investigation Discovery or something once about kids who kill ( maybe girls specifically, I don't remember) anyways there was a story from 1930 about 2 girls who took there MOTHER for a walk in the woods, and then beat her to death with a rock. Because she forbade them from doing something. These girls were little too,like 8 & 9. It was a sickening story, but it happened way before the internet, before creepy stories online, before violent video games. 

Also the more I think of it this happened the morning after the sleepover, not during. I mean we can't protect our kids from walking to the park with there friends ever right? 

I think the tragedy here is that we can't protect our kids from the mental illness and get them help. 

Merp.

[berbles]

Jun 3, 2014 12:07:31 GMT -5 @savestheday said:

Jun 3, 2014 12:06:29 GMT -5 berbles said:

Merp.

(kiss)

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Jun 3, 2014 12:12:39 GMT -5 berbles said:

Jun 3, 2014 12:07:31 GMT -5 @savestheday said:

Merp.

(kiss)

[kirra]

This is horrifying.