Does it Matter if Marissa Mayer Doesn’t Think She’

[2vermont]

Jul 19, 2012 13:54:53 GMT -5 emmybean said:

You know, I don't much care about flippant opinions on my character when it's seen as negative, and I certainly don't need a patronizing pat on the back when I've performed to expectations. I appreciate that I'm seemingly agreed with here, but why not just say that, rather than call me out for a decidedly normal Emmy response?

Well you sure showed me!

[bluestreet]

Jul 19, 2012 12:38:51 GMT -5 @habbsies said:

Jul 19, 2012 11:40:34 GMT -5 bluestreet said:

Just like Obama would have looked like a real assface if he'd never acknowledged his position historically and the debt he had to the civil rights movement, MM looks like a real assface here. To me.

I'm not sure where you're getting that she's not acknowledging the role of feminism in her success. She's simply connecting with and thanking many aspects of feminism while rejecting or bristling under the notion that she has to fall in line with every single thought ever associated with feminism.

To me, this would be like lambasting Obama for thanking the civil rights movement but voicing frustration with the Black Panthers.

(edited because I got it totally backwards. fuck.)
The implied analogy here is that Feminism is to Some broader movement for gender equality what the Black Panthers were to the civil rights movement. That's a false analogy. The Black Panthers were to the civil rights movement what Militant Separatists are to feminism.

So her eschewing the label feminist is not the same as Obama not labeling himself a Black Panther. He repeatedly cited the role of the Civil Rights movement in his ability to become president.

Unfortunately, your analogy highlights what many have come to believe, and her position clearly reflects it. I'm still disappointed.

[bluestreet]

Jul 19, 2012 11:52:08 GMT -5 dylanite said:

Jul 19, 2012 11:40:34 GMT -5 bluestreet said:

On the other hand, if you've been able to achieve goals that just wouldn't have been an option without the efforts of the women's movement over the last 100 years--and especially 50 years--don't you owe it to the movement and to women still struggling to give it some props?

Just like Obama would have looked like a real assface if he'd never acknowledged his position historically and the debt he had to the civil rights movement, MM looks like a real assface here. To me.

But I also think surrendering the label "feminist" to the redefinitions of misogynist fucks is a lame cop-out for women to make, even if that includes 70% of my compatriots.

ETA: It'd be different if we'd achieved equality, if congress looked totally different, etc. In that case, no you don't have to constantly nod at history. But we're still in the thick of the women's movement, which is made evident by the fact that MM's rise to CEO is even news.

One with penis chiming in: I don't think she should feel very oblitated to thank the movement with words considering she thanked them, rather loudly, with her actions. I can see why some would like it if she did, but really. She should be seen as a template - as the results of the moment - not someone that should be compelled to look back in gratitude while she's doing so well looking forward... as, my penis imagines, is kind of what the whole point of my view of Feminism is.

a) I wish you would change the caption of your picture to "Like if you've got Jesus in your butt." But I can just sub it in my mind.

b)I don't need her thank feminism with a starry-eyed Academy Award speech, but to go so far as to eschew the label is the opposite of thanks.

But obviously "feminist" means different things to different people. What is the word for a person who, as MM herself expressed, agrees with gender equality and will work towards making it happen? For me that's a feminist. For others a feminist means you're angry and reactive. That works in my case too. Good thing I'm covered either way!

[dylanite]

Noted!

[cookiemdough]

Are people no longer allowed to say no comment?

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Jul 19, 2012 9:38:45 GMT -5 bluestreet said:

Does it Matter if Marissa Mayer Doesn’t Think She’s a Feminist?
Katie J.M. Baker

jezebel.com/5927055/does-it-matter-if-marissa-mayer-doesnt-think-shes-a-feminist

As she told the PBS-AOL series "Makers":

"I don't think that I would consider myself a feminist. I think that I certainly believe in equal rights, I believe that women are just as capable, if not more so in a lot of different dimensions

It's beyond cool that she managed to become Yahoo's CEO despite her difficulty in understanding English.

Mind you, if I thought English was her first language the inane crap coming out of her mouth would make me pull my hair out.