And pixy, they were all awful but you is dead to me for saying the first one was the best one. They are all hunks of shit that are best forgotten. Well except for Obi Wan. Damn Ewan made a fabulous Ben Kenobi.
And pixy, they were all awful but you is dead to me for saying the first one was the best one. They are all hunks of shit that are best forgotten. Well except for Obi Wan. Damn Ewan made a fabulous Ben Kenobi.
The first one of the new movies is the best one. I just want to clarify.
And pixy, they were all awful but you is dead to me for saying the first one was the best one. They are all hunks of shit that are best forgotten. Well except for Obi Wan. Damn Ewan made a fabulous Ben Kenobi.
But what if I told you that Obi Wan is really a banana plant?
And pixy, they were all awful but you is dead to me for saying the first one was the best one. They are all hunks of shit that are best forgotten. Well except for Obi Wan. Damn Ewan made a fabulous Ben Kenobi.
But what if I told you that Obi Wan is really a banana plant?
I'll be slightly confused but over it by tomorrow. I mean it's only Star Wars.
And pixy, they were all awful but you is dead to me for saying the first one was the best one. They are all hunks of shit that are best forgotten. Well except for Obi Wan. Damn Ewan made a fabulous Ben Kenobi.
The first one of the new movies is the best one. I just want to clarify.
GOOD GOD NO!
Okay maybe. The first one is a fucking affront to the entirety of what it is to be Star Wars. But if it were any other movie in the world, it wouldn't be so bad.
The other two are just bad. Just really fucking bad.
Post by lasagnasshole on Aug 29, 2014 11:22:26 GMT -5
Because fuck it, it's Friday. I just dug out Doggie. Imagine a wee little harpy getting ANGRY over people calling him a bunny and tell me a 4-year-old won't be bothered by hearin HK isn't a cat.
Because fuck it, it's Friday. I just dug out Doggie. Imagine a wee little harpy getting ANGRY over people calling him a bunny and tell me a 4-year-old won't be bothered by hearin HK isn't a cat.
I have been arguing with my kids for an entire year over what this animal is. I tell them it's a giraffe but because it has spots like a kitty (cheetah) they refuse to call it anything other than a kitty-giraffe. This has been going on since last summer!
If you think for one second that I'm gonna go down the Hello Kitty rabbit hole with them, you are drunk!
That's a giraffe, this is a cat. Don't tell me this is not a cat!
Because fuck it, it's Friday. I just dug out Doggie. Imagine a wee little harpy getting ANGRY over people calling him a bunny and tell me a 4-year-old won't be bothered by hearin HK isn't a cat.
I have been arguing with my kids for an entire year over what this animal is. I tell them it's a giraffe but because it has spots like a kitty (cheetah) they refuse to call it anything other than a kitty-giraffe. This has been going on since last summer!
If you think for one second that I'm gonna go down the Hello Kitty rabbit hole with them, you are drunk!
That's a giraffe, this is a cat. Don't tell me this is not a cat!
I had finally given up on the discussion until L decided to take it to school for Show 'N Share Day. Her teacher wrote a note that said she enjoyed showing everyone her tiger.
Did no one read the Kotaku article where they talked to Sanrio for clarification, and basically this is a bunch on nonsensical viral BS that isn't true? Hello Kitty is a girl, but is a girl cat. Emphasis on the cat.
Earlier today, numerous websites reported that Hello Kitty is not a cat. That's not only an oversimplification, it's also not quite true. Hello Kitty is a feline—just an anthropomorphic one, Sanrio told Kotaku.
The whole Hello-Kitty-is-not-a-cat thing was set off by an L.A. Times article on an upcoming Hello Kitty at the Japanese American National Museum. According to Christine R. Yano, an anthropologist at the University of Hawaii, prepared a written text for the exhibit. According to Yano:
I was corrected — very firmly. That's one correction Sanrio made for my script for the show. Hello Kitty is not a cat. She's a cartoon character. She is a little girl. She is a friend. But she is not a cat. She's never depicted on all fours. She walks and sits like a two-legged creature. She does have a pet cat of her own, however, and it's called Charmmy Kitty.
Of course, Hello Kitty is a character that has come to represent Japanese cute, but isn't the point of personification giving animals human characteristics? I mean, do we really need to point out things like real crickets don't have top hats and umbrellas like Jiminy Cricket?
When Kotaku called Sanrio's Tokyo headquarters today and asked whether or not Hello Kitty was indeed a cat, a spokesperson explained, "Hello Kitty was done in the motif of a cat. It's going too far to say that Hello Kitty is not a cat. Hello Kitty is a personification of a cat."
The specific word that the Sanrio spokesperson used to describe Hello Kitty was "gijinka" (擬人化), which means "anthropomorphization" or "personification."
One again, to clarify, I asked the Sanrio spokesperson, "Then, it would be going too far to say that Hello Kitty was not a cat?" The spokesperson replied, "Yes, that would be going too far."
In short, you cannot remove the cat element from Hello Kitty. So, it goes without saying that Hello Kitty is not a house cat like Tom from Tom and Jerry. Well, Mickey Mouse isn't a mouse like Jerry, either. He can drive a car. Over the years, he's had various jobs. He even has a pet—a dog named Pluto. But, Mickey Mouse is indeed a mouse, just like Hello Kitty is a cat. P
Many of the headline covering this L.A. Times article called Hello Kitty "human." Yet, Yano never says that Hello Kitty is human. She simply states that Hello Kitty is a girl. That corresponds with Hello Kitty's official profile, which says the character is a "cheerful and nice girl" (明るくて、優しい女のコ or "akarukute, yasashii onna no ko").
The character's official profile never says she is human, and among cat lovers in Japan, it's very common for cats to be referred to as "girl" or "boy," instead of by the Japanese gender markers designated for animals (namely, "osu" or 雄 for "male" animals and "mesu" or 雌 for female animals). The reason for this is that by using terms like "girl" or "boy" for animals, they can personify them through vocabulary and raise them above the status of mere "pet" to a member of the family.
When speaking with Sanrio, I asked if Hello Kitty was like Snoopy, another animal character that can walk upright. Sanrio pointed out that Hello Kitty was different because Snoopy still lives in a doghouse, and Hello Kitty, well, lives in a house. But, so do The Three Little Pigs, Mr. Toad from The Wind and the Willows, and a whole array of animal characters from the popular tradition.
Part of the argument that Hello Kitty was not a cat centered around her having a cat for a pet. There's a long tradition of anthropomorphic characters with animal pets. Heck, Minnie Mouse has a pet cat. Yes, a mouse has a cat for a pet. Hello suspension of disbelief!
Then, there's Goofy. Disney very clearly points out that "Goofy is a dog," but he is a personification of a dog. According to Disney, "Goofy was created as a human character, as opposed to Pluto, who was a pet, so he walked upright and had a speaking voice." This is why Goofy's full name is sometimes given as "Goofus D. Dawg." Yet, even though he's also owned a dog, it would be a mistake to call him a human. He's not.
In both the Disney universe and the Sanrio universe, there's a clear separation between the pet animal and the anthropomorphic animal character. P
Let's say, however, you are still not convinced. Well, when Hello Kitty first appeared in 1974 as a character on a coin purse, she didn't even have a name. The coin purse simply read, "Hello!" In Japan at that time, the character was known as "the white cat with no name" (名前のない白い子猫), as if the character belonged in a Spaghetti Western.
Then, there's the name. It's obvious, but "Kitty" means "cat" in English, but "kitty" or "kitten" in Japanese is "koneko" (子猫 or 仔猫 or 小猫). So, what's the cat connection for Japan? Wouldn't "Kitty" simply sound like a character's name to the Japanese? Maybe, but in 2009, a Sanrio spokesperson appearing on Japanese television show Megami no Marche said that in around 1975, the character was named "Kitty" after Alice's pet cat in Through the Looking-Glass. This probably explains why Hello Kitty lives in the United Kingdom. It also helps explain why you cannot take the cat out of Hello Kitty.
And as Japanese site Byoukan Sunday points out, Sanrio's website groups Hello Kitty with the cat characters. The category on this page is "neko" (ねこ) or "cat." You can see it also includes Hello Kitty's pet cat, Charmmy Kitty.
Did no one read the Kotaku article where they talked to Sanrio for clarification, and basically this is a bunch on nonsensical viral BS that isn't true? Hello Kitty is a girl, but is a girl cat. Emphasis on the cat.
Earlier today, numerous websites reported that Hello Kitty is not a cat. That's not only an oversimplification, it's also not quite true. Hello Kitty is a feline—just an anthropomorphic one, Sanrio told Kotaku.
The whole Hello-Kitty-is-not-a-cat thing was set off by an L.A. Times article on an upcoming Hello Kitty at the Japanese American National Museum. According to Christine R. Yano, an anthropologist at the University of Hawaii, prepared a written text for the exhibit. According to Yano:
I was corrected — very firmly. That's one correction Sanrio made for my script for the show. Hello Kitty is not a cat. She's a cartoon character. She is a little girl. She is a friend. But she is not a cat. She's never depicted on all fours. She walks and sits like a two-legged creature. She does have a pet cat of her own, however, and it's called Charmmy Kitty.
Of course, Hello Kitty is a character that has come to represent Japanese cute, but isn't the point of personification giving animals human characteristics? I mean, do we really need to point out things like real crickets don't have top hats and umbrellas like Jiminy Cricket?
When Kotaku called Sanrio's Tokyo headquarters today and asked whether or not Hello Kitty was indeed a cat, a spokesperson explained, "Hello Kitty was done in the motif of a cat. It's going too far to say that Hello Kitty is not a cat. Hello Kitty is a personification of a cat."
The specific word that the Sanrio spokesperson used to describe Hello Kitty was "gijinka" (擬人化), which means "anthropomorphization" or "personification."
One again, to clarify, I asked the Sanrio spokesperson, "Then, it would be going too far to say that Hello Kitty was not a cat?" The spokesperson replied, "Yes, that would be going too far."
In short, you cannot remove the cat element from Hello Kitty. So, it goes without saying that Hello Kitty is not a house cat like Tom from Tom and Jerry. Well, Mickey Mouse isn't a mouse like Jerry, either. He can drive a car. Over the years, he's had various jobs. He even has a pet—a dog named Pluto. But, Mickey Mouse is indeed a mouse, just like Hello Kitty is a cat. P
Many of the headline covering this L.A. Times article called Hello Kitty "human." Yet, Yano never says that Hello Kitty is human. She simply states that Hello Kitty is a girl. That corresponds with Hello Kitty's official profile, which says the character is a "cheerful and nice girl" (明るくて、優しい女のコ or "akarukute, yasashii onna no ko").
The character's official profile never says she is human, and among cat lovers in Japan, it's very common for cats to be referred to as "girl" or "boy," instead of by the Japanese gender markers designated for animals (namely, "osu" or 雄 for "male" animals and "mesu" or 雌 for female animals). The reason for this is that by using terms like "girl" or "boy" for animals, they can personify them through vocabulary and raise them above the status of mere "pet" to a member of the family.
When speaking with Sanrio, I asked if Hello Kitty was like Snoopy, another animal character that can walk upright. Sanrio pointed out that Hello Kitty was different because Snoopy still lives in a doghouse, and Hello Kitty, well, lives in a house. But, so do The Three Little Pigs, Mr. Toad from The Wind and the Willows, and a whole array of animal characters from the popular tradition.
Part of the argument that Hello Kitty was not a cat centered around her having a cat for a pet. There's a long tradition of anthropomorphic characters with animal pets. Heck, Minnie Mouse has a pet cat. Yes, a mouse has a cat for a pet. Hello suspension of disbelief!
Then, there's Goofy. Disney very clearly points out that "Goofy is a dog," but he is a personification of a dog. According to Disney, "Goofy was created as a human character, as opposed to Pluto, who was a pet, so he walked upright and had a speaking voice." This is why Goofy's full name is sometimes given as "Goofus D. Dawg." Yet, even though he's also owned a dog, it would be a mistake to call him a human. He's not.
In both the Disney universe and the Sanrio universe, there's a clear separation between the pet animal and the anthropomorphic animal character. P
Let's say, however, you are still not convinced. Well, when Hello Kitty first appeared in 1974 as a character on a coin purse, she didn't even have a name. The coin purse simply read, "Hello!" In Japan at that time, the character was known as "the white cat with no name" (名前のない白い子猫), as if the character belonged in a Spaghetti Western.
Then, there's the name. It's obvious, but "Kitty" means "cat" in English, but "kitty" or "kitten" in Japanese is "koneko" (子猫 or 仔猫 or 小猫). So, what's the cat connection for Japan? Wouldn't "Kitty" simply sound like a character's name to the Japanese? Maybe, but in 2009, a Sanrio spokesperson appearing on Japanese television show Megami no Marche said that in around 1975, the character was named "Kitty" after Alice's pet cat in Through the Looking-Glass. This probably explains why Hello Kitty lives in the United Kingdom. It also helps explain why you cannot take the cat out of Hello Kitty.
And as Japanese site Byoukan Sunday points out, Sanrio's website groups Hello Kitty with the cat characters. The category on this page is "neko" (ねこ) or "cat." You can see it also includes Hello Kitty's pet cat, Charmmy Kitty.
They are all animals/not animals. Simultaneously. We have to accept this. I just choose to see the catness in Hello Kitty over and above the girlness, even though I accept that the girlness is present.
I was being cheeky and glib before, but I really do think this whole brouhaha is rooted in a fundamental philosophical difference in what the meaning of is is.
BUT BUT BUT wiki says all of them ARE animals!!! Except Hello Kitty. She's a girl.
"Bad Badtz-Maru (バッドばつ丸 Baddo batsu maru?) is a male penguin with spiky hair." "Pekkle (Ahiru no Pekkle) is a fictional duck. He is a small white duck with a blue t-shirt with the letter P on it." "Pochacco is drawn as a white dog with black floppy ears, but no visible mouth."
I went to wiki yesterday to verify their animal status as well. Ahiru no Pekkle literally means "Pekkle the duck." I fondly remember my HS Japanese teacher translating for me. HE IS A DUCK!