Cynthia Spann is suing Penney over what she says are phantom discounts. She bought three blouses at 40% off the regular price of $30 in March 2011, according to her complaint. But instead of $30, the prevailing price for the blouses in the three months preceding her purchase was $17.99—exactly the same as the sale price she paid, the lawsuit alleges. Ms. Spann said in the complaint that she wouldn't have bought the blouses if she had known the discount wasn't real.
I don't get this. She bought them because she liked the blouses and felt the price point was right with the "sale." But the same price without a sale would not have warranted buying the item?
yes actually. It's not about getting stuff you actually want. It's about getting a good deal- the thrill of the hunt. My ils shop this way. Buy first, figure out if it can actually be used second.
Cynthia Spann is suing Penney over what she says are phantom discounts. She bought three blouses at 40% off the regular price of $30 in March 2011, according to her complaint. But instead of $30, the prevailing price for the blouses in the three months preceding her purchase was $17.99—exactly the same as the sale price she paid, the lawsuit alleges. Ms. Spann said in the complaint that she wouldn't have bought the blouses if she had known the discount wasn't real.
I don't get this. She bought them because she liked the blouses and felt the price point was right with the "sale." But the same price without a sale would not have warranted buying the item?
I am so mad at the assholes who ruined JCP's pricing strategy. I loved that shit.
I don't get this. She bought them because she liked the blouses and felt the price point was right with the "sale." But the same price without a sale would not have warranted buying the item?
I am so mad at the assholes who ruined JCP's pricing strategy. I loved that shit.
Look anyone dead set on Black Friday shopping should follow Farhad Manjoo on Slate because every year he breaks down the actual deals vs the scammy deals.
Farhad is with the Times now. I use Brad's Deals -- he's been tracking BF circulars for years.
i never ever see 90% of the things i get on BF for less than what i spend that day.
i know that the $59 dual DVD player is $79 all year, TYVM.
But there are articles, woman. It's not my fault you are dumb enough to fall for a retailer's shenanigans.
That being said, you go black Friday shopping to avoid your stepmother, don't you? BE HONEST WITH THE THREAD!
if they ever spent a holiday with us (like ever. the last one was when grace was 8 weeks old) i'd run from that shit in a hot minute.
i shop on black friday to avoid my CHILDREN. it also happens to be my sister's birthday so i take her out for lunch. then we shop and then, (to make this even MORE ce&P) we go out for red lobster for dinner.
Every year I vow to do Christmas shopping year-round and every year I fail.
I make this same vow with Christmas knitting. And yet, here I am knitting for Halloween and completely unable to warp the space time continuum to allow for more time.
As someone who knows shit about shopping and when and where the best deals are, I would ASSume that the best deals for lots of things would be in January because that's when everyone's broke. At least, that is what I am hoping for this January (that there are great sales, not that I'm broke).
No, because January is when everyone uses their gift cards so retailers aren't too keen to drop prices too low. Deals come around again for the Super Bowl (for electronics, anyway).
As someone who knows shit about shopping and when and where the best deals are, I would ASSume that the best deals for lots of things would be in January because that's when everyone's broke. At least, that is what I am hoping for this January (that there are great sales, not that I'm broke).
There are really good deals in February and March because retailers are trying to get that tax money, baby. But that's when buy my kids the stuff they need. That's new underwear season lolol
But there are articles, woman. It's not my fault you are dumb enough to fall for a retailer's shenanigans.
That being said, you go black Friday shopping to avoid your stepmother, don't you? BE HONEST WITH THE THREAD!
if they ever spent a holiday with us (like ever. the last one was when grace was 8 weeks old) i'd run from that shit in a hot minute.
i shop on black friday to avoid my CHILDREN. it also happens to be my sister's birthday so i take her out for lunch. then we shop and then, (to make this even MORE ce&P) we go out for red lobster for dinner.
WITH A COUPON.
BOOM
I am fully in support of BF shopping to avoid family.
As someone who knows shit about shopping and when and where the best deals are, I would ASSume that the best deals for lots of things would be in January because that's when everyone's broke. At least, that is what I am hoping for this January (that there are great sales, not that I'm broke).
No, because January is when everyone uses their gift cards so retailers aren't too keen to drop prices too low. Deals come around again for the Super Bowl (for electronics, anyway).
No. January is when retailers do inventory so they want to clean that shit out fast so it's not on their books.
i never ever see 90% of the things i get on BF for less than what i spend that day.
i know that the $59 dual DVD player is $79 all year, TYVM.
They actually do go on sale in June? July? Something like that when the new electronics are being released.
not like on BF, sadly. believe me, i've been stalking them for 2 years. the best i've seen is $75 during the year vs $59 on BF. and that's just one of the things i get that day. PJs and underwear are on the list too.
I don't get this. She bought them because she liked the blouses and felt the price point was right with the "sale." But the same price without a sale would not have warranted buying the item?
yes actually. It's not about getting stuff you actually want. It's about getting a good deal- the thrill of the hunt. My ils shop this way. Buy first, figure out if it can actually be used second.
I only do this with yarn. Because it will look pretty on my shelf even if I never knit it up.
Post by gretchenindisguise on Sept 30, 2014 14:36:49 GMT -5
We've been really strapped for cash before, and the savings on all of the gifts for my kid that year really made a difference in what we were able to get her. I don't understand why this is hard for people to understand. Sometimes saving $30-50 is absolutely worth it to people and their finances.
We've been really strapped for cash before, and the savings on all of the gifts for my kid that year really made a difference in what we were able to get her. I don't understand why this is hard for people to understand. Sometimes saving $30-50 is absolutely worth it to people and their finances.
Because this isn't what we're saying.
1) The deals are fake.
2) We're saying that it's shitty that people are forced to work on Thanksgiving.
ETA: Actually I did call people selfish on the first page, and I stand by it. The bold is selfish, and there's really no way around it. People want what's best for THEMSELVES. And if it means taking a holiday away from someone, hey whatever, right?
Preach! I do feel you on this one. It reeks of obnoxious privilege to me. Your kid can get the $500 game system when it's $500 so you can sit on your high horse and be derisive to all of us who can't afford it and need to go when it's marked $150 as "consumerist." Because our kids want the same crap as your kids. Go figure.
That being said, I haven't shopped on Thanksgiving or really that much on Black Friday. I find good enough deals the rest of the year to make it worth it, but my kids haven't reached the all electronics all the time stage either.
I do think it's sad that we can't have a national holiday that allows most workers to have an actual holiday off. It would be better if stores would shut this sh@# down and just do deals Friday & Saturday...or whatever. However, my pet peeve is ABSOLUTELY people who think it is a horrific crime for stores to be open Thanksgiving but will gladly go out to eat at restaurants or run to the store on Thanksgiving Day. For me it is all or nothing. I am not going to get into emergency workers and whatnot, but your need to not have to cook on Thanksgiving or to grab a Starbucks b/c you were up all night cooking is no more righteous than another person's need to get a good deal on holiday gifts for their family. Those businesses, just like the stores in the mall, are not open during the day as a service to the customer, they're open because they are making money.
Because it's one thing to be open and offer a deal at a normal hour and another thing to open at 3am on a holiday.
And again, yes, I try to buy my kids stuff sometimes, but if we want to go there, no, we don't all need $500 game systems or the newest iPhone12. I know plenty of people, both those who can afford it and those who can't, who choose not to buy things they don't need.
I honestly don't mean this as a dig at you because I get what you are saying, and I'm not all MM on this subject. Everyone should get to have fun stuff, and presents, and what not. But there is a limit to how much consumerism our society needs and how much push there needs to be to make us feel like we need all this stuff to be what everyone else is. I don't know where the line is exactly, but I think opening stores in the middle of the night, and "encouraging" camping out, and setting up the conditions where folks are getting trampled, has crossed it.
Listen, I don't disagree with you. I don't participate in the craziness. I do wish the stores would put an end to this nonsense. I did one Black Friday at Toys R Us and that taught me that 80% of their "Hot Deals" were back at that same price within a few months after the holiday. But I just hate to see the mentality of "it's absurd what people will do for a few bucks" and all the hate that Thanksgiving shoppers get. For a lot of people, a few bucks matter a great deal and when your kids wants ONE thing and that thing is only available at a price you can afford for ONE hour of the year (and I understand that it is debatable if this is true, but I think I have a decent handle on what constitutes a rock or close to rock bottom price) then I don't hate on anyone for doing what they feel they have to do to make the magic happen for their kid. I don't do it, but I get it. I do think it's a sign of the consumerist/materialistic society we've become, it's a symptom or manifestation of the problem, but (in my opinion) not the cause of the problem.
When I was working I was on my company's volunteer committee. We partnered with a local agency and did our own angel tree. Some of the requests were for things like Ipods, bikes, Nintendo DS. Lots of people didn't want to shop and gave cash, which we split up between names that weren't picked and a few of us shopped. There were people that thought the kids were asking for too much. "Hey, even my kids aren't getting a DS for Christmas." Then there were people who hit up Black Friday sales and bought all crap the kids wanted with the money we had b/c they wanted it to happen for those kids. So while I personally don't agree that stores should be open on Thanksgivings I think all the vitriol directed at the shoppers is unfair. That's all
We've been really strapped for cash before, and the savings on all of the gifts for my kid that year really made a difference in what we were able to get her. I don't understand why this is hard for people to understand. Sometimes saving $30-50 is absolutely worth it to people and their finances.
Worth it to you to take away what used to be a retail worker's ONE guaranteed day off during the year?
We've been really strapped for cash before, and the savings on all of the gifts for my kid that year really made a difference in what we were able to get her. I don't understand why this is hard for people to understand. Sometimes saving $30-50 is absolutely worth it to people and their finances.
Worth it to you to take away what used to be a retail worker's ONE guaranteed day off during the year?
i think we can all agree that, as she's referring to the past, she's talking about Black Friday, right?
I don't see why people who are so opposed to it don't stay home. Last year, I knew multiple people who were outraged the stores were open on Thanksgiving, but they said they had "no choice" but to shop then and the stores were "ruining their Thanksgiving" and cutting into their family time. Shop or don't shop, but don't act like the store is forcing you to go stand in line for $4 DVDs.
I have a personal moratorium on spending money on T'giving and Christmas Eve/Christmas. We gas up the day before, check the pantry, etc to prepare and those three days we spend no money anywhere.
Me too! And it is awesome! I hit the grocery store the Tuesday before and that is enough chaos and craziness for me!
Also I just read an article the other day on the farce that is the "$199 iPhone."
If anyone wants me to ruin your $199 iPhone 6 dreams I can dig that up too.
Cellphone pricing is a mega scam and so is the whole cellphone industry. Another example of rampant consumerism with a trail of environmental damage in its wake.