Not that it was wrong to do so, but since it was a mom and poop store and not a national chain, I wouldn't have taken it back.
that man is a nutcase and I am surprised you didn't get that vibe any earlier from shopping there all this time.
I'm sorry that happened and I'd be shaken too. But good thing beer is easy to get elsewhere
I don't understand why its different if its a small store owner. They aren't required to give you what you pay for or provide a quality product. Why the hell not?
I probably would have turned around and walked out. Not cool.
Off the reservation makes me think of Major League, as in Bob Ueker saying "that ball (home run) is off the reservation!". Words cannot express how much I LOVE that movie.
Things can happen to beer to cause it to go bad that have nothing to due with the pour date. You can get a bad batch, or bottling or shipping issues can cause it to get skunked.
Anyway, it's not about who was 'right' about whether the beer was bad or not...that is totally beside the point. Any business that treats a loyal repeat customer that way...or ANY customer that way, for that matter...doesn't deserve the business.
I would not ever go back, and I'd sure as hell be posting some online reviews about what happened.
At least where I'm from, that's not what 'off the res' would mean.
What does it mean where you're from?
It depends on the context, IME: it's not necessarily negative, although it can be: I've never heard it used to describe someone who was acting 'crazy'. Drunk, yes. Crazy, no. It's not a phrase I use unless I'm actually using it in the literal sense because it's derogatory.
It's just an odd choice of description in this context, IMO.
He sounds like a nutcase. There was a store near where I went to college that specialized in "out of season" beers and even they took back anything that was completely skunked.
I also don't understand the ae thing? If people can share their levels of debt and condition of their cervical mucus, you can share a funny story about buying booze.
he was most certainly wrong. but for future reference, when someone shows his crazy, do not further engage him.
if he was already screaming, telling you to call the police, grabbing bottles off the shelf, and bringing God into your beer purchases, he's unstable. do not say you "find him hard to believe" or threaten to not come back--that's a great way to escalate the situation.
It depends on the context, IME: it's not necessarily negative, although it can be: I've never heard it used to describe someone who was acting 'crazy'. Drunk, yes. Crazy, no. It's not a phrase I use unless I'm actually using it in the literal sense because it's derogatory.
It's just an odd choice of description in this context, IMO.
I still don't really get what it means though. It sounds like a Native American based slur. If so, then it shouldn't be used anywhere, regardless of context.
It depends on the context, IME: it's not necessarily negative, although it can be: I've never heard it used to describe someone who was acting 'crazy'. Drunk, yes. Crazy, no. It's not a phrase I use unless I'm actually using it in the literal sense because it's derogatory.
It's just an odd choice of description in this context, IMO.
I still don't really get what it means though. It sounds like a Native American based slur. If so, then it shouldn't be used anywhere, regardless of context.
In the way it was used here, yes, it was extremely derogatory. I'm not sure if the pp even realizes it.
But it is a term that is often used literally, and in that sense, it is not derogatory. So it absolutely does depend on context. (There was also an NPR series about moving 'off the res' in which the term is used literally and not to describe a person or a behavior which is completely appropriate. Another example is Ian Frazier's book "Off the Rez.")
The way in which it was used here was pretty derogatory.
I don't think you did anything wrong. In my case, I wouldn't have taken it back and the second he started yelling I'd have walked out. There is no way I'd take verbal abuse over $10. And assuming the person yelling was the owner, id never set foot back in the store. The "ugly girl" tirade would probably make me angry enough to tell everyone I know & post online reviews about it.
I still don't really get what it means though. It sounds like a Native American based slur. If so, then it shouldn't be used anywhere, regardless of context.
In the way it was used here, yes, it was extremely derogatory. I'm not sure if the pp even realizes it.
But it is a term that is often used literally, and in that sense, it is not derogatory. So it absolutely does depend on context. (There was also an NPR series about moving 'off the res' in which the term is used literally and not to describe a person or a behavior which is completely appropriate. Another example is Ian Frazier's book "Off the Rez.")
The way in which it was used here was pretty derogatory.
Yes, the way it was used here was very derogatory. So everyone living on a reservation is crazy and/or drunk? Wow. Way to overgeneralize using racial stereotypes.
But ... to the OP ... I would not shop at that store anymore for sure. Such a strange reaction, especially if you're a regular, good customer.
In the way it was used here, yes, it was extremely derogatory. I'm not sure if the pp even realizes it.
But it is a term that is often used literally, and in that sense, it is not derogatory. So it absolutely does depend on context. (There was also an NPR series about moving 'off the res' in which the term is used literally and not to describe a person or a behavior which is completely appropriate. Another example is Ian Frazier's book "Off the Rez.")
The way in which it was used here was pretty derogatory.
Yes, the way it was used here was very derogatory. So everyone living on a reservation is crazy and/or drunk? Wow. Way to overgeneralize using racial stereotypes.
But ... to the OP ... I would not shop at that store anymore for sure. Such a strange reaction, especially if you're a regular, good customer.
No, you have it backwards: 'Off the reservation' = crazy. Not saying it's an okay or appropriate saying to use (TBH I never thought much about the origins of the phrase)...but I have heard it before in the same context as someone has 'lost their marbles.'
IME, off the res: lost it. Not meant as a slur of any kind. Way to hijack a thread from a random comment with so many panties in a bunch (most UO threads are WAY worse--the military hate one comes to mind--but I don't see those drawing such outrage). Flame if you must, but don't label me a racist.
IME, off the res: lost it. Not meant as a slur of any kind. Way to hijack a thread from a random comment with so many panties in a bunch (most UO threads are WAY worse--the military hate one comes to mind--but I don't see those drawing such outrage). Flame if you must, but don't label me a racist.
IME, off the res: lost it. Not meant as a slur of any kind. Way to hijack a thread from a random comment with so many panties in a bunch (most UO threads are WAY worse--the military hate one comes to mind--but I don't see those drawing such outrage). Flame if you must, but don't label me a racist.
Lurker from another board butting in, but how can you seriously defend that by saying "off the res" which to you means lost it, isn't a slur.
I understand that sometimes people say things and don't realize they are a slur because we never really think about the history of the phrase. However, when it's pointed out to you, the appropriate response is to apologize, learn, and not use it again. Defending it makes you look ridiculous and ignorant.
IME, off the res: lost it. Not meant as a slur of any kind. Way to hijack a thread from a random comment with so many panties in a bunch (most UO threads are WAY worse--the military hate one comes to mind--but I don't see those drawing such outrage). Flame if you must, but don't label me a racist.
Wait, how is saying 'off the rez' like that not offensive? I've actually never heard that phrase to mean crazy or drunk or stupid or really, anything except a person who left the reservation. Then again, I'm from a state that is mostly reservations...
That is very odd reaction...perhaps dementia? Stay far away.
That is very odd reaction...perhaps dementia? Stay far away.
This is kind of what I thought too. There was an old grocery store where I used to live that sold the best fresh, local beef around. I ordered from that old lady a ton of times and always picked up and paid for my order. She called me out of the blue once and told me I had a $100 bounced check that I needed to come in and take care of....I tried to tell her I don't write checks at grocery stores and if someone is using one of my checks there's a huge issue, and I would check with my bank, blah blah blah. I was being really nice about it but she flew off the handle and asked me "why don't you just SHUT UP" and some other not nice things. I called the store later to talk to another lady that owns the store with her, and she told me she was having a lot of memory problems lately and it was actually someone else completely that she was supposed to call, but we just had the same first name. I had similiar experiences when I worked in healthcare with elderly patients- their mind is fading and some of the nicest people can get really angry when they reach a certain point. Total speculation, though.
No you were not wrong to bring it back. Two years is OLD. That man is batshit crazy.
No, for a craft beer, two years isn't old. We had people sign a few bottles at our wedding and one we're keeping for 5 years, one we're keeping for 10 and one we're keeping for 15, I think. We also have several special edition bottles that are meant to be kept for multiple years. Stone has a special series they've been releasing called 9-9-09, 10-10-10, etc. They're designed to be aged and drunk on 12/12/12. We only have 10-10-10 and 11-11-11, but still, one will be over 2 years old when we drink it. The first one was released on 2/2/02, so ostensibly people will be drinking 10 year old beer. They bottle age.
But that's only if the alcohol content is high enough (usually double digits, like a wine). And also, a 6 pack would probably not qualify. These are usually 750 ml bottles.
Totally random and a moot point, though.
OP, that's crazy. Find a good craft beer store or wine/liquor store with a craft beer section that's not crazy. MOST places let you return bad things, sometimes even things you just don't like.
I said "I won't be coming back" and he started screaming at me over and over "Ugly girl ugly girl ugly girl."
I would have died. I'm sorry it shook you up, AE, I really am, but I would have probably fell out laughing. Anyway, no, obviously, you were not wrong. Now, please, reveal yourself. No matter who you are, it will increase my amusement exponentially.
This is hilarious.
I would put Swizzlestix or Crackhabit, but I doubt they'd DD for these. I'm guessing +v+ or Simpsongal.
Wait, how is saying 'off the rez' like that not offensive? I've actually never heard that phrase to mean crazy or drunk or stupid or really, anything except a person who left the reservation. Then again, I'm from a state that is mostly reservations...
That is very odd reaction...perhaps dementia? Stay far away.
I googled it b/c now I'm curious, and apparently the most common meaning of the phrase is that someone has 'gone rouge'...i.e: a politician speaking against his own party could be said to have gone 'off the reservation.'
Which would make more inherent sense in that there were times when Native Americans were forbidden to leave the reservation so going off the reservation = going rouge.
Doesn't change the fact that it's an offensive phrase. It just got me curious enough to look it up...
No you were not wrong to bring it back. Two years is OLD. That man is batshit crazy.
No, for a craft beer, two years isn't old. We had people sign a few bottles at our wedding and one we're keeping for 5 years, one we're keeping for 10 and one we're keeping for 15, I think. We also have several special edition bottles that are meant to be kept for multiple years. Stone has a special series they've been releasing called 9-9-09, 10-10-10, etc. They're designed to be aged and drunk on 12/12/12. We only have 10-10-10 and 11-11-11, but still, one will be over 2 years old when we drink it. The first one was released on 2/2/02, so ostensibly people will be drinking 10 year old beer. They bottle age.
But that's only if the alcohol content is high enough (usually double digits, like a wine). And also, a 6 pack would probably not qualify. These are usually 750 ml bottles.
Totally random and a moot point, though.
OP, that's crazy. Find a good craft beer store or wine/liquor store with a craft beer section that's not crazy. MOST places let you return bad things, sometimes even things you just don't like.
So what you're saying is that for what the OP purchased, yeah, 2 years is old.
Craft beer =/= high alcohol content sold in 750ml bottles.
In fact, one of my favorite local breweries (technically it's been upgraded from a craft brewery to a regional brewery) specifically says that you should not drink their beer if it's over a year old.
Also, since I was mentioned in this thread, it's NOT ME! I would never need an AE to talk about my drinking escapades. Y'all know that.
Craft beer =/= high alcohol content sold in 750ml bottles.
But it can be, that is the thing. I bought some artisanal hard cider in the Olympic peninsula that came in 750 ml bottles and had an almost wine like alcohol content.
I also bought a bottle of Sam Adams Utopia last summer. It is the highest alcohol content beer available, I believe. We drank it in under a year, but my understanding is that the alcohol content on that was high enough that we a) didn't have to keep it refrigerated and b) it could last forever, like liquor.