Post by RoxMonster on May 23, 2015 19:25:14 GMT -5
I feel like most of you aren't understanding what happened and I may not be explaining well. I'm going to try to explain it again.
When you take the cover off of my garage door opener, there are a bunch of numbers (about 13) and some of them have the buttons up, some down....this pattern matches the pattern on my actual garage door. For purposes of making this easier to explain, I'm going to just pretend it's a 3-digit code, even though it's more like 13.
If the code inside my actual opener is 256, my garage door would have to be 256 so they can "talk" to each other and it opens my door. What happened is, in this example, someone changed the code inside my opener to now say 356. You have to manually change that, and the way it is in my opener, you cannot do it with your finger --we tried -- you have to use a screwdriver or something with a pointier tip. So it was done deliberately.
You ask how I think messing with my garage door opener means someone can break in later. All that would have to happen is they would have to take their own garage door opener, open it up, and make their code 256. They can now open my garage. This is why the code is much more complicated and 13 instead of 3 numbers, and also why older garage doors aren't as secure - new ones are not set to just one code, they are constantly resetting and changing the code. But on old garage doors, you manually input one code in your opener and you match it on the actual door and that is how it opens. It would be very easy for someone to take your code and put it in their own opener.
Even if the intent was not to break in and just to fuck with us so our opener didn't work, would you be happy if someone at your dealership messed with your garage door opener? I guess not. Tough crowd tonight.
We just bought an opener for dd's car today and Dh had to climb up a ladder in the garage to use the learn button and had to use a paper clip in the opener to program it. I'm not getting how changing your code could allow them access if it doesn't even open your garage. I've never seen an actual coded opener except for the one on the wall outside the garage. Ours are a 1 button push to open.
Ours are a 1-button push too, but the openers have to "talk" to your garage door, otherwise it wouldn't open. If you take the cover off your opener, on the inside, there is a code. That code matches what is on your garage door (or at least it does in the case of older garage doors).
Post by sunshineluv on May 23, 2015 19:29:18 GMT -5
Here's the thing, it's not that hard to break into a house. Why would someone got through all this effort, and have something that could point to them as a suspect? And then they would lose their job and go to jail.
Or they could just bust a window and steal your stuff like other burglers.
Post by RoxMonster on May 23, 2015 19:31:15 GMT -5
rosiebearknx9211 That's why I said in my OP that I don't know if that was their intent OR if it was just to fuck with us and I am creeped out either way. And just because they change it to fuck with us, if they wrote down the code, they could still use it for nefarious purposes. The only reason I even knew about the code and how it works is because DH knew about it and compared it to his garage door opener. If I had just assumed my opener stopped working, went to get a new one and programmed in the old code, they still could break in with that code.
Post by LeggsBenedict on May 23, 2015 19:31:42 GMT -5
stop trying to explain garage codes to everyone. we know. we knowwww.
if someone is trying to break into your house, it benefits them in NO WAY AT ALL to change your garage code. which means that scenario is very unlikely, and you are being paranoid. REGARDLESS OF HOW GARAGE DOORS WORK.
Post by thinkofthesoldiers on May 23, 2015 19:32:03 GMT -5
I completely understood what you were saying the first time. I think you are paranoid. Do you have a reason to be paranoid? Are you more likely than anyone else to have this happen to you? Your garage and its contents take up a lot of your thoughts.
Here's the thing, it's not that hard to break into a house. Why would someone got through all this effort, and have something that could point to them as a suspect? And then they would lose their job and go to jail.
Or they could just bust a window and steal your stuff like other burglers.
You are thinking way too hard about this.
I'm not a criminal, but getting someone's garage code so you could pull up in a car when you think they're not home, open their garage, pull in and shut it again seems like an easier/less auspicious way of breaking in that trying to jimmy open a door or smash a window.
Like I said in the OP, yes, it may have been some idiot doing this just to fuck with us, but I guess I'm surprised that everyone else is surprised someone with easy access to your garage door opener wouldn't just write down the code if they wanted to break in easily.
Look. If anyone was planning on breaking in, they're dumb because changing your opener code alerted you to the fact that it had been messed with in the first place. Why not just copy it down? You would be none the wiser.
Call the shop/dealership tomorrow; I think it's possible yours was accidentally switched with someone else's. Maybe there's another person in your city speculating about why their opener code was altered.
stop trying to explain garage codes to everyone. we know. we knowwww.
if someone is trying to break into your house, it benefits them in NO WAY AT ALL to change your garage code. which means that scenario is very unlikely, and you are being paranoid. REGARDLESS OF HOW GARAGE DOORS WORK.
I don't think everyone did know because people keep saying things like "the only codes I know of are the ones on coded entries outside your garage", etc.
My whole point was that whether or not someone messed with it with the intent to break in, someone purposely messed with my opener at a dealership where that shouldn't happen. We complain about far less than that happening on this board. Seems like a valid complaint. But I guess not.
But they would not need to change your opener code to accomplish that. They would, however, need to 'tell' your garage that the new code I'd 356, which they can't do remotely. I see what you are saying, and im sorry it's stressed you out. I have no explainafion for how the numbers got changed, but rest assured that if they are criminals, they are terrible ones and not a threat
stop trying to explain garage codes to everyone. we know. we knowwww.
if someone is trying to break into your house, it benefits them in NO WAY AT ALL to change your garage code. which means that scenario is very unlikely, and you are being paranoid. REGARDLESS OF HOW GARAGE DOORS WORK.
I don't think everyone did know because people keep saying things like "the only codes I know of are the ones on coded entries outside your garage", etc.
My whole point was that whether or not someone messed with it with the intent to break in, someone purposely messed with my opener at a dealership where that shouldn't happen. We complain about far less than that happening on this board. Seems like a valid complaint. But I guess not.
The thing is you are basing all of this on the assumption someone at the dealership did this. It could be a glitch. I get that your dh had to take a screw driver to it, but it's technology it fucks up. It could be a glitch. It's not 100% totally sure someone at the dealership did this to you. Either with an elobrate burglary plan, or to fuck with you.
What kind of car do you drive? Is it awesome enough to make them thing you have great stuff to steal? Yet another reason to drive a sweet minivan like me
Post by karinothing on May 23, 2015 19:52:17 GMT -5
Isn't the place that houses the garage door code inside the garage. As in you have to open garage first to change. This is different than the push button code outside garage doors, which opens it without the opener. So how could they access the garage door code ?
I don't think everyone did know because people keep saying things like "the only codes I know of are the ones on coded entries outside your garage", etc.
My whole point was that whether or not someone messed with it with the intent to break in, someone purposely messed with my opener at a dealership where that shouldn't happen. We complain about far less than that happening on this board. Seems like a valid complaint. But I guess not.
The thing is you are basing all of this on the assumption someone at the dealership did this. It could be a glitch. I get that your dh had to take a screw driver to it, but it's technology it fucks up. It could be a glitch. It's not 100% totally sure someone at the dealership did this to you. Either with an elobrate burglary plan, or to fuck with you.
What kind of car do you drive? Is it awesome enough to make them thing you have great stuff to steal? Yet another reason to drive a sweet minivan like me
But what kind of glitch would move a lever on its own? If the garage door opener literally moved a lever of its own volition, that has me a whole different kind of creeped out.