Hillary Clinton compared Republican presidential candidates who hold conservative views on abortion and women's reproductive rights to "terrorist groups" in a Cleveland speech on Thursday.
During a riff where the candidate name checked Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, Clinton said Republicans are "dead wrong for 21st century America."
"Now, extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups, we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world, but it's a little hard to take from Republicans who want to be the president of the United States," Clinton said. "Yet they espouse out of date, out of touch policies. They are dead wrong for 21st century America. We are going forward, we are not going back."
Clinton regularly hits Republicans on women's rights but Thursday's line was a departure from her usual talking points.
"I would like these Republican candidates to look the mom in the eye who caught her breast cancer early because she was able to get a screening for cancer or the teenager who didn't get pregnant because she has access to contraception," Clinton said. "Or anyone who has ever been protected by an HIV test."
Clinton told the audience of around 2,000, according to Case Western Reserve University, that she takes "it a little personal when they (Republicans) go after women."
"This is happening all over the country, even here in Ohio," she said. "Programs and services women use to take care of themselves are being cut down."
Bush said in a Tweet that the remarks were a sign of Clinton's misplaced priorities.
".@hillaryclinton compares pro-life Americans to terrorists, but defends despicable PP treatment of unborn? Her priorities are totally wrong," Bush tweeted.
Republicans were quick to pounce on Clinton's comments and called for her to apologize.
"For Hillary Clinton to equate her political opponents to terrorists is a new low for her flailing campaign," said Allison Moore, press secretary for the Republican National Committee. "She should apologize immediately for her inflammatory rhetoric."
"Hillary Clinton just said a significant portion of Americans are the same as 'terrorist groups' simply because they disagree with her," added Amelia Chassé, press secretary for America Rising PAC, an anti-Clinton opposition research group. "That is outrageous, even for a desperate politician slipping in the polls. It's the clearest sign yet that Sec. Clinton will say or do anything to win."
A national poll released Thursday showed Clinton leading the Democratic field with 45% support, as well as topping several GOP candidates in head-to-head matchups.
Between this and Obama referring to some Rs as the "crazies", I'm planting firmly in the "I'm not voting for any of these assclowns," territory. Because yes, further demonization and polarization is just what this country needs. How do you ever expect to get the other side to even listen with this kind of rhetoric? One of the few things I've liked about HRC is that I believed she knew how to bring some order and compromise to our government. Well, this is not how you fucking do it. Some I'm throwing up the deuce. I'm writing in IIOY and calling it a vote.
"Now, extreme views about women, we expect that from some of the terrorist groups, we expect that from people who don't want to live in the modern world, but it's a little hard to take from Republicans who want to be the president of the United States," Clinton said. "Yet they espouse out of date, out of touch policies. They are dead wrong for 21st century America. We are going forward, we are not going back."
You have half of the major GOP candidates publicly saying that yes, they favor laws requiring doctors to let a woman die rather than perform an abortion. That is indeed an extreme view about women more suited to the Taliban.
There are GOP candidates that have publicly stated positions that align with the people that bomb abortion clinics and shoot OBs in their churches. AKA, terrorists.
This is not what Hillary was referring to, but you have the LEADING GOP candidate who essentially gave his blessing to a group of his supporters who beat up a Latino man for being Latino!!!!
There are GOP candidates that have publicly stated positions that align with the people that bomb abortion clinics and shoot OBs in their churches. AKA, terrorists.
Yeah, I'm here.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and acts like a duck, I'm sorry it's a fucking duck.
There are GOP candidates that have publicly stated positions that align with the people that bomb abortion clinics and shoot OBs in their churches. AKA, terrorists.
I'm here too. It likely wasn't a wise thing to say, but I have a hard time being too mad at her for saying it. Yes, it's polarizing, but as a woman, I completely understand her frustration on the issue.
There are GOP candidates that have publicly stated positions that align with the people that bomb abortion clinics and shoot OBs in their churches. AKA, terrorists.
Don't forget about good ol' Huckabee who wants to use troops and the FBI to stop women from having abortions.
I'm not mad at Hilary. The GOP should be called out on their bullshit.
Yeah. It would be one thing if all we were talking about were waiting periods and 20 wk bans. Wanting to criminalize a life saving medical procedure for women is absolutely barbaric and ought to be called out as such. Her choice of words really shouldn't be controversial. Because I'm not really sure what a more "polite" way to describe it would be.
Post by fuckyourcouch on Aug 28, 2015 9:12:58 GMT -5
Not to mention the cries of the "war on Christians", comparisons of elective abortion to the holocaust, threatening to shut down the entire government over bullshit propaganda videos about PP, a complete lack of action on mass shootings, police brutality wouldn't happen if people just listened to the police, etc.
This is really the least concerning "rhetoric" out there for me.
You have half of the major GOP candidates publicly saying that yes, they favor laws requiring doctors to let a woman die rather than perform an abortion. That is indeed an extreme view about women more suited to the Taliban.
Not being snarky but who are these GOP candidates? I'm not a Republican but I do follow these primary races and I have not heard this from any of them. Granted, Douche Trump is getting the most coverage but I would like to see where other GOP candidates have publicly stated this. TIA!
jeaniebueller posted a handful of links not 5 posts above citing Walker, Huckabee and Cruz.
These were statements made live during the Fox GOP debate.
You have half of the major GOP candidates publicly saying that yes, they favor laws requiring doctors to let a woman die rather than perform an abortion. That is indeed an extreme view about women more suited to the Taliban.
Not being snarky but who are these GOP candidates? I'm not a Republican but I do follow these primary races and I have not heard this from any of them. Granted, Douche Trump is getting the most coverage but I would like to see where other GOP candidates have publicly stated this. TIA!
Did you watch the debate? Have you heard Hucakbee say he would send troops in? (Presumably they've perfected the tech from Inner Space and they can get troops into a woman's uterus.)
Did you watch the debate? Have you heard Hucakbee say he would send troops in? (Presumably they've perfected the tech from Inner Space and they can get troops into a woman's uterus.)
(Presumably they've perfected the tech from Inner Space and they can get troops into a woman's uterus.) What in the actual Fuck??
I watched the debate but I did not hear him say that- granted I think I fell asleep at some point. I've been directed to a few links here and plan on watching this afternoon when work calms down. Thanks for the feedback.
You have half of the major GOP candidates publicly saying that yes, they favor laws requiring doctors to let a woman die rather than perform an abortion. That is indeed an extreme view about women more suited to the Taliban.
Not being snarky but who are these GOP candidates? I'm not a Republican but I do follow these primary races and I have not heard this from any of them. Granted, Douche Trump is getting the most coverage but I would like to see where other GOP candidates have publicly stated this. TIA!
He also intervened in the case of a pregnant 13 year old girl, taking it to court to stop her from having an abortion, though he ultimately lost the battle
- They all want to defund the one organization dedicated to giving women especially poor women, control over their health and their reproductive destiny which is really just simply human destiny.
- Some want to shut down government entirely until this happens.
- All want to chip away at Roe.
- Some want women to die if that means saving the fetus. Fetus > actual living woman.
- "health of a woman"
- Others think carrying a rape baby or your dad's baby is no reason to have an abortion. Even if you are 10 years old.
- So you have the kid. How many up there would vigorously fund social services like health care, child care, housing subsidies, food stamps, etc? Nope. Bootstraps. Or go ask your church. Better yet, don't slut around and then you won't be in this mess.
- "make america great again" like that time where women were at home and didn't make a fuss, blacks knew their place, gays didn't exist, and Mexicans were in Mexico.
- Speaking of Mexicans, the leading GOPer called them all rapists, wants to deport even citizens to Mexico, and called a hate crime against a hispanic man the desire to "make america great again."
- Many of the others would like to do away with "anchor babies" (gotta love those fetuses until they are born!), build walls, and otherwise make life inhospitable for one of the most impoverished ethnic groups on the planet. Christian love right there!
- speaking of Christian love, most would like their version of religion to dictate public policy and the law. I can't think of another group in favor of this type of theocracy? Oh wait. Yes I can.
Everyday I feel like republican policies put me and my daughter at risk as females, my husband and my daughter as risk because they are mexican, my uncle at risk because he's gay. If that's not terroristic I don't know what is.
I'm tired of everything being called terrorism. I'm tired of people using the worst term they can think of (and remember when that was just "a liberal!") for attention.
I also think that she meant Al Qaeda, Taliban and ISIS... but those are not the only terrorist groups out there. This is reinforcing the idea that terrorist = Muslims. Many consider the IRA a terrorist group, but I have no idea what their position is with regards to women's rights.
She could have made her point without that part of the quote and I can't help but think that it's part of the outrage sweepstakes everyone seems to be playing.
I'm not a big fan of hyperbole, and to be honest, I'm really hard pressed to think of another example where I think using the word "terrorism" to describe another party's platform would be appropriate. [ETA - heyjude makes good points. I do think the term can be used too loosely, and not appropriate to describe every form of opposition to civil rights but we are getting at the point where we are crossing that line.]
But for women in an unwanted or unsafe pregnancy, it is completely legitimate for them to say that they would feel terrorized if they were forced to carry it to term, their lives and physical and mental health be damned.
Post by fuckyourcouch on Aug 28, 2015 11:51:22 GMT -5
I mean, you're not going to convince me they aren't religious extremists. Just because it's a religion more people in America are comfortable with doesn't change anything about the problem.
The word "terrorists" has lost some of its meaning and become shorthand for "religious extremists" with some serious racial overtones. This is unfortunate. Words have meaning, and just because your name is Scott Walker and you oppose abortion even to save the life of the mother doesn't mean you are bombing buildings or killing people to get your way.
I wish that she that had used the word, "theocracy" instead of "terrorists". Because that is what the major Republican candidates are arguing for. They want to be less like America and more like Iran. They want to impose their sincerely held religious beliefs on the people they rule. Not to go all sappy and patriotic but we have a long and proud tradition of secular rule in this country which the founding fathers embraced early on as a way to safeguard religious freedom for all Americans.