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Post by Velar Fricative on Dec 17, 2015 6:27:15 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. Once the (not even all that detailed) details were removed, there was absolutely nothing in that thread that would have shown cause for removal. And the "details" were removed quickly! Anyone coming into that thread would have been none the wiser, and even if they did see the "details"...they really weren't salacious and most people were actually assuming there was no drama involved and what happened was accidental.
And guess what? NOW it's drama. It wouldn't have been if the harmless thread just stayed up.
It's pretty asinine that we can't even manage to effectively recap our own "drama" and have to let ML do it for us, thus ensuring way more drama.
There aren't many hard and fast rules here, but reporting and deleting someone else's thread for no substantial reason when nothing was violated is one of them.
Post by vanillacourage on Dec 17, 2015 7:02:25 GMT -5
FWIW I was on last night and saw the reported post get flagged for deletion of the thread. I didn't agree with the request and there were no violations of TOS/posting of identifying info that I could see, so since nqb wasn't the OP I left it alone for the MMM mod to deal with.
Flex said aid she was trying to just delete nqb's single post and accidentally killed the whole thread...but nqb wasn't the OP, right? They are two different buttons in that case.
FWIW I was on last night and saw the reported post get flagged for deletion of the thread. I didn't agree with the request and there were no violations of TOS/posting of identifying info that I could see, so since nqb wasn't the OP I left it alone for the MMM mod to deal with.Â
Flex said aid she was trying to just delete nqb's single post and accidentally killed the whole thread...but nqb wasn't the OP, right? Â They are two different buttons in that case.Â
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!!!! (Not you)
How is she still a mod given that my first inkling when I saw her name here was that she's done this before (and this was confirmed)? If she can't pass Moderating 101 then that is a problem. With great power comes great responsibility.
The whole thing is bizarre. And obviously I'm no stranger to being sensitive. I actually wondered the other day if it was "ok" to talk about the news story regarding ADs and autism and decided it could potentially hurt feelings so I'd skip but it's a news story from a legitimate source, not like the poster was making stuff up. Not all that different than people who like stories about MAGICAL BREAST MILK or whatever (from legit news sources). (I can see they aren't exactly the same but there are similarities)
I posted about that in randoms, but since everyone hates randoms, no one saw it. However no one deleted that randoms thread so you're welcome.
I loved both of our Disney trips and even I agree with this. Maybe we need a WDW sub board, lol.
I was honestly joking. I've never been to WDW and never cared about the number of threads, but it's been debated before so I figured this was a nice opportunity to bring it up.
I guess I can see someone being a little sensitive about the speculated autism link if you are worried about a possible diagnosis for your son and took ADs during your pg. I remember when my kids were really little, scientists were speculating about a possible link with birth order - esp. for kids who have a younger sibling born within two years of them. I was worried about autism with DS1 at the time because of his extreme tantrums. And yes there is a compounding component when you start to wonder if you did something "wrong" and caused it yourself. There was a poster on CEP who loved to post articles about this on the 2u2 board on the Bump and I thought that was stepping over a line (I read both boards and she was so gleeful about it on CEP). So I can see why that might get one's hackles up. Not saying that is what is going on here (innocently "liking" an article on FB is far from trying to rub something in others' faces) but it's a theory.
Plus there's the fact that people still don't really know what causes autism and that a ton of different factors have been considered and discarded over the years. This will probably be another one.
Post by Willis Jackson on Dec 17, 2015 7:37:36 GMT -5
Okay I read the ML thread. That article was pretty reassuring that it's not something to stress about. Maybe that's why the poster liked it? Did you read the article or just the headline, @notquiteblushing?
The whole thing is bizarre. And obviously I'm no stranger to being sensitive. I actually wondered the other day if it was "ok" to talk about the news story regarding ADs and autism and decided it could potentially hurt feelings so I'd skip but it's a news story from a legitimate source, not like the poster was making stuff up. Not all that different than people who like stories about MAGICAL BREAST MILK or whatever (from legit news sources). (I can see they aren't exactly the same but there are similarities)
I agree. I find it very concerning that any of us might feel like we need to avoid discussion of a pretty neutral news story reporting the results of a scientific study. That article was not inflammatory. It wasn't even an opinion piece. It was reporting on science. News is good. Science is good. Studying possible reasons for the rise in autism rates is good. We should be able to talk about it.
And why is it even that big of a deal if someone wants to "like" that article on FB? Who knows what was going through their head. Maybe they were liking the fact that the article actually found the risk to be pretty minimal. Maybe they were liking it purely because they found it interesting from a scientific perspective. Maybe they are happy to see research being done on autism. Or maybe they are just dying to shame women on ADs. We don't know. There is not enough information to cast judgment here, people.
OMG I'm getting dressed for work. You guys need to calm down. I posted about my feelings. And no it was not a reassuring article. The headline said "antidepressants linked to autism." It's obviously an emotionally charged issue for me.
Based on ML's summary I have the following comments:
I find the actual post to be weird - NQB is not a newbie so posting something like "someone here liked an article" or whatever is obviously not going to be something people just ignore. She had to know it would gain traction.
Then requesting the deletion is weird, since it seems people had moved on from her post anyway, and she could have just deleted her own posts and then asked Pugz or whoever to delete their comments. People do that all the time and we are pretty good about that.
The fact that the thread WAS deleted seems off, despite the explanation. If someone besides the OP requests a thread to be deleted, it seems that there should be an extra level of scrutiny or something, lol. And by reporting it so she would get a faster response also seems off. Like others have said, it made a mountain out of a molehill.
And then acting all wide-eyed in here like she can't believe people are upset about it. Again, not a newbie.
The more I think about it the more I am ticked over the thread deletion. WE HAVE RULES HERE.
THANK YOU. This was exactly what I was thinking but didn't have time to post until now. How did NQB possibly think the responses would go any other way when she posted what she did? Especially since the article was, as far as articles about potential "causes" of autism go, pretty innocent.
Post by jeaniebueller on Dec 17, 2015 8:11:44 GMT -5
You guys, I don't want to run NQB off as a result of this. People can report or request deletion of whatever they want. The big issue is that the mods actually DID IT.
I'm calm except I have to be at work in 49 minutes and I'm in a towel. I posted about how I was feeling. I regretted bringing someone else I to it. It had very little to do with her. I'm aware that some issues cause an emotional reaction. I just wish I could have deleted it without the bloodthirst but I'll be at work soon if anyone wants to wait or talk about me in my absence.
Oh man I don't know if it was here or on the nest. But NQB was calling a reporter at a local paper (like, Small Town Daily or something) and the reporter didn't call back right away so she posted about the reporter being a dirty pirate hooker. Something like that.
I loved both of our Disney trips and even I agree with this. Maybe we need a WDW sub board, lol.
I don't think a Disney subboard is a bad idea. My local FB group added a separate group for the Disney talk. It's fun AND it's easier because you don't have to search a whole board for something Disney-related you want to know .