When it's time to say goodbye.

[pixy0stix]

Sigh... Don't tag people to give their opinions. They'll give them if they want.

[NewOrleans]

Jan 31, 2016 13:33:57 GMT -5 pixy0stix said:

Sigh... Don't tag people to give their opinions. They'll give them if they want.

Duly chastised.  

[onomatopoeia]

I'm really sorry someone did this to you, smo. I'm not a frequent poster and I'm sure it's little comfort to you (if you are even reading this), but I just wanted to let you know that. I've enjoyed your contributions to gbcn over the years. I don't even know what else to say, other than that I hope whoever did this is identified.

[agnes]

I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said. formerlysmo, I'm sorry someone did this to you.

[annieblah]

Jan 31, 2016 11:06:03 GMT -5 mofongo said:

Jan 31, 2016 8:43:03 GMT -5 skwcm80 said:

I skimmed SM's gofundme thread, and I thought I'd missed Mofongo's posts. I only saw them when someone else had quoted. I went back, her posts are gone. Given they she was one of Booby's vocal supporters I'm suspicious.

I ask admin to delete fairly frequently. People have been found by employers and family, that's why. People know I do this.

how the fuck do you not know how the Internet works? Are you 90? Damn. Shit.

[annieblah]

Jan 31, 2016 11:42:45 GMT -5 eclaires said:

Now don't hurt her feelings, guys.

Personally that was my LOL moment in that long ass thread on ML. it was so ridiculous and out of place. Especially for the person who was all up in helping booby target kirkette.

right? Ml seems to hAve either a high number if shit or high number of old ass dumbasses

[epphd]

Jan 31, 2016 10:51:18 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Jan 31, 2016 10:44:58 GMT -5 Michelle said:

To date I have really liked you and most of your posts. So maybe because of that i was shocked as shit to see you joining early on in the pile on that makes Kirkette out to be a crazy person when she was so obviously at her wits end, being bullied into an emotionally reactive place, and mad as hell and not going to take it anymore. Kirkette's MO is by default to try to understand where someone is coming from, to give people a chance to explain if taken the wrong way. She deserves that same consideration from those who see her posts regularly. Since you are active on the same boards as her you should have known that and had her back, or at least refrained from the pile on. Booby, DickMove and others clearly were being manipulative and pushing her buttons. And you sided with them. And stand by those comments.

If they were, I was not aware of any particularly racist or nefarious intent. I think in that thread I disagreed with the use of philanthropist, because I didn't think it was the right word to use? I certainly never called kirkette crazy. I do think her posts have been more intense lately, and obviously now I realize there was a pointed reason for that. In that respect, I absolutely apologize for not seeing any kind of pattern, and I put that down to my own cultural blindness.
Regardless, I'm dropping this now, because this incident is not about me. I just wanted to clarify that I in no way, shape or form condone retaliation off board, and that that had been my position since these discussions began; and that there was nothing nefarious about my post deletion.

I went to bed last night with that thread still stuck in my craw. It was absolutely APPALLING to tell a person who gives, and a POC at that, that they cannot call themselves a philanthropist. There is NO FUCKING REASON not to. There is no social norm "one" should follow, there is no reason for ANYONE to object Kirkette using that term, proudly. The ******ONLY****** reason to object is because she is black. And the massive pile on of how ungraceful, unrefined, unfinished how...

(unWHITE)

it is to speak of "one's" upbringing, status, wealth...

I feel nauseated thinking of it. Maybe it's because I'm a fundraiser. I am the person on the other side of the table at the lunches Kirkette refers to. I craft the pitches she graciously receives. Telling her that she doesn't have the right to refer to herself as a philanthropist and STANDING BY IT is just vile.

I know it is sort of off-topic, but shit if we're going to face up to the scenario that got us to Smo getting harassed, maybe it's not.

[Lucy Honeychurch]

I never said cannot. I said I thought it was something one was referred to as by others. I never said she doesn't have the right.

[epphd]

Jan 31, 2016 14:21:10 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

I never said cannot. I said I thought it was something one was referred to as by others. I never said she doesn't have the right.

Splitting hairs, IMO.

[imobviouslystaying]

I would never wish ill on Smo but I have to admit to a whopping sense of schadenfreude that all of this is blowing the fuck up.

There have been people moving in and off these boards for years telling various posters they ain't shit, that a whole undercurrent running through this place is some of the worst of humanity including a heaping dose of racism, otherism, elitism, and classicism. But it's just that some people can't hang, right?

And since I was asked (though we can disagree whether I should have been), Imma say this, CEP is smoking the good ish if they think they don't engage in similar behaviors.

CEP isn't mailing people gummy dicks, this is true. But the racism, otherism, elitism, classicism and all of that is regularly on full display.

[pescalita]

Jan 31, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5 imobviouslystaying said:

I would never wish ill on Smo but I have to admit to a whopping sense of schadenfreude that all of this is blowing the fuck up.

There have been people moving in and off these boards for years telling various posters they ain't shit, that a whole undercurrent running through this place is some of the worst of humanity including a heaping dose of racism, otherism, elitism, and classicism. But it's just that some people can't hang, right?

And since I was asked (though we can disagree whether I should have been), Imma say this, CEP is smoking the good ish if they think they don't engage in similar behaviors.

CEP isn't mailing people gummy dicks, this is true. But the racism, otherism, elitism, classicism and all of that is regularly on full display.

epphd don't think you're off topic here. Among the awful things that this dick-sender did is cause this whole week to become "the time someone harassed Smo IRL". No. It is the time GBCN showed itself to be full of a whole lot of racist assholes and a whole lot more racist apologists.

[callie]

I don't think anyone is saying that behavior is only board specific. Those problems are on GBCN as a whole.

[imobviouslystaying]

Jan 31, 2016 14:47:16 GMT -5 pescalita said:

Jan 31, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5 imobviouslystaying said:

I would never wish ill on Smo but I have to admit to a whopping sense of schadenfreude that all of this is blowing the fuck up.

There have been people moving in and off these boards for years telling various posters they ain't shit, that a whole undercurrent running through this place is some of the worst of humanity including a heaping dose of racism, otherism, elitism, and classicism. But it's just that some people can't hang, right?

And since I was asked (though we can disagree whether I should have been), Imma say this, CEP is smoking the good ish if they think they don't engage in similar behaviors.

CEP isn't mailing people gummy dicks, this is true. But the racism, otherism, elitism, classicism and all of that is regularly on full display.

epphd don't think you're off topic here. Among the awful things that this dick-sender did is cause this whole week to become "the time someone harassed Smo IRL". No. It is the time GBCN showed itself to be full of a whole lot of racist assholes and a whole lot more racist apologists.

It's more like the time GBCN finally couldn't deny itself to be full of a whole lot of racist assholes and a whole lot more racist apologists.

But again, I'd say it goes beyond race and into how race plays into class.

[iammalcolmx]

Jan 31, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5 imobviouslystaying said:

I would never wish ill on Smo but I have to admit to a whopping sense of schadenfreude that all of this is blowing the fuck up.

There have been people moving in and off these boards for years telling various posters they ain't shit, that a whole undercurrent running through this place is some of the worst of humanity including a heaping dose of racism, otherism, elitism, and classicism. But it's just that some people can't hang, right?

And since I was asked (though we can disagree whether I should have been), Imma say this, CEP is smoking the good ish if they think they don't engage in similar behaviors.

CEP isn't mailing people gummy dicks, this is true. But the racism, otherism, elitism, classicism and all of that is regularly on full display.

We have also excused some pretty vile behavior as well.

[SwimDeep]

I've finally caught up... formerlysmo I'm so sorry some piece of shit did this to you I spend most of my time on this board reading, learning, and keeping my mouth shut so I can listen. Your voice will be greatly missed!
The scumbag who did this needs to come forward, but I'm sure the fucking coward won't.

squirrelymom -- I remember when that happened, and I still wish I had spoken up for you (even though I mostly lurked at the time and probably wouldn't have made much impact). I'm so glad the community came together to help you in spite of booby and others, and I'm glad CEP and Proboards are protecting Smo!

[lilchubbs]

It is such a shame that Smo got targeted (even this doesn't feel like it adequately conveys how i feel). I was in a rage telling my best friend, who isn't a part of these boards, about what went down. Even she is invested in culprit being found and justice being served. Whoever did it knows they were wrong, and I hope that they get what is coming to them.

I've been mostly a lurker for a long time, and I post occasionally, but sometimes it is hard. What happened here is what is happening on a regular basis all across this country every day. I work in a college setting, and I think of all the difficulties/microaggressions/macroaggression/harassment that the minority students have faced and how often there is little justice served.

I think of how we rally against rape culture, how we try to educate people and say that allowing *seemingly* benign shit contributes to the objectifying of women and emboldens those who wish to do more overtly sexual or sexually assaultive behaviors. People on these boards (not just CEP but all of the ones I've read) for the most part don't put up with this behavior and actively rail against it.

That so many of us stand by when we see/hear these micro-aggressions occur, that so many of us explain away the person's intent or deny that it is a micro-aggression is deplorable. It's this environment that emboldens people like the asshole who sent this box of dicks to do these deplorable, overtly racist acts. Like putting a swastika made of feces on a wall, wearing shirts that all but spell out nigger, yelling racial epithets at people just going about their day, hanging confederate flags and noose on the statue of a civil rights hero-all of this on college or high school campuses. And the list could go on. Hell, with the James Meredith statue incident-which was pretty blatantly racist, so many people claimed (not here-on the internet/in MS where I'm from) it wasn't a racist act, that it was some drunk frat boys playing pranks, and that since no one was directly threatened, minorities had no right to feel upset or afraid.

We saw it play out here. Some people called it out (thank you to those) and some people ignored/denied/deflected/explained away what happened and has been happening for quite some time-not just with this one poster-but often with many posters, whether intentional or not. It's a damn shame that all of this went down, especially to someone who clearly deserves no ill will towards her. But it is not at all surprising. Especially given how many posters on ML openly mourn the loss of a pretty overtly racist/bigoted poster. Especially given how many times micro aggressions have gone unaddressed or explained away. This is how racism continues to thrive. Damn shame it took someone being openly and actively targeted in their real lives for some folks to open their eyes.

[jln]

Why are the folks that are deleting posts for their "protection" also the folks with their pictures in their profiles and signatures? That seems a little... counterintuitive.

[runforrest]

I really hope you can find out who did this to you. It's disgusting.

[soxin2]

I'm not at all discounting the actual mailing or what led up to it. Last night, I just kept wanting to believe this did not/could not/would not happen. That I don't live in a world in which this does happen.


Then I had a major CTJ moment with myself that's why I hate that politics is only people's by the wealthy who can afford to campaign/etc. They have never known poverty or what it means to live the lives they are affecting. And I realized I am now under that same description. That I want to simply wish away the horrors of the news and encourage and pray for the moments of random kindness that don't get as much traction in the 24hr news cycle.

I hope that we can all move forward into the world we want to live in. I wish I could give all of you who have experienced negativity around your race/class/religion/life a better world. I can only better my corner and hope it touches yours in positive ways.

I don't really know why I came back in this thread.
I hope the perpetrator/s are caught and are made to face proper consequences of their action or inaction.

[Deleted]

I'm so late to this. Regardless, I wanted to express my sorrow to see Smo targeted in this way. I've read most of the other threads and would love to say I can't believe someone took it this far. The trouble is, I can believe it. Someone not only saw this behavior as warranted, but also thought the majority of us would support it. I hope we can prove that person wrong not only with our initial reaction but also in our future behavior.

I'm so sorry, Smo.

[imobviouslystaying]

Jan 31, 2016 20:05:26 GMT -5 soxin2 said:

I'm not at all discounting the actual mailing or what led up to it. Last night, I just kept wanting to believe this did not/could not/would not happen. That I don't live in a world in which this does happen.


Then I had a major CTJ moment with myself that's why I hate that politics is only people's by the wealthy who can afford to campaign/etc. They have never known poverty or what it means to live the lives they are affecting. And I realized I am now under that same description. That I want to simply wish away the horrors of the news and encourage and pray for the moments of random kindness that don't get as much traction in the 24hr news cycle.

I hope that we can all move forward into the world we want to live in. I wish I could give all of you who have experienced negativity around your race/class/religion/life a better world. I can only better my corner and hope it touches yours in positive ways.

I don't really know why I came back in this thread.
I hope the perpetrator/s are caught and are made to face proper consequences of their action or inaction.

[silva]

[erbear]

I am catching up on this (work was insane this week, but I spent the weekend ignoring my family and catching up). 

I am so freaking angry about this. smo, I'm so sorry some asshole targeted you and did something so vile. I truly hope someone knows something and speaks up soon.

I've got to add that, even though I'm not a "well known" poster on here, I'm so sorry for not speaking up. I do see the microaggressions toward the WOC on here from time to time, but I haven't wanted to call them out because I figured maybe I was reading into things. This past few days has made it clear that I am not, and I won't be a bystander anymore.

[NewOrleans]

Jan 31, 2016 14:30:30 GMT -5 imobviouslystaying said:

I would never wish ill on Smo but I have to admit to a whopping sense of schadenfreude that all of this is blowing the fuck up.

There have been people moving in and off these boards for years telling various posters they ain't shit, that a whole undercurrent running through this place is some of the worst of humanity including a heaping dose of racism, otherism, elitism, and classicism. But it's just that some people can't hang, right?

And since I was asked (though we can disagree whether I should have been), Imma say this, CEP is smoking the good ish if they think they don't engage in similar behaviors.

CEP isn't mailing people gummy dicks, this is true. But the racism, otherism, elitism, classicism and all of that is regularly on full display.

We do have a sizable ass. Without question. We have embarrassed ourselves a bunch of times. I know my role in at least some of those moments, and I imagine others know theirs. (I hope mine haven't been racist  )

[mookie]

Jan 30, 2016 23:42:01 GMT -5 NewOrleans said:

Jan 30, 2016 23:39:41 GMT -5 Dig Ophelia said:

Who was/is she?  

That's always been her name. But she has more lives than Bill Murray in Groundhog Day. And is basic as shit in all of them.

Abolutely DEAD

[iammalcolmx]

I see so Joenali is blaming the victim for not being careful with her personal information?

pandce.proboards.com/thread/510485

^o)

[Kit]

This is incredibly disturbing and disgusting. I'm so sorry someone did this to you, Smo. You contributed so much to this board, and you will be missed, for certain.

[Velar Fricative]

Feb 1, 2016 8:25:27 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

I see so Joenali is blaming the victim for not being careful with her personal information?

pandce.proboards.com/thread/510485

Fuck her and fuck that eso person who randomly showed up in the gypsy thread on ML.

[kirra]

Feb 1, 2016 8:25:27 GMT -5 iammalcolmx said:

I see so Joenali is blaming the victim for not being careful with her personal information?

pandce.proboards.com/thread/510485

On top of being an asshole, I don't think she understands how the internet works. She posts identifying information all the time. Be vigilant my ass.

[namasteak]

Joenali- How can you think that is an acceptable thing to say?