I have to say, not that anyone gives a fuck about my opinion, if some posters don't return BECAUSE others aired their grievances, after years of calling others out and poking at other posters, well that's pretty rich.
ETA: it sounds like I don't want them back, LOL. I do. I'm just saying it would be ironic (I think? I don't know, thanks Alanis!) if that's ultimately why they stay away.
This happened when I was a brand new lurker over here. Her sn was like marynjoe or something. It sounded like her husband was an important figure wherever they were from and *something* happened. It was all very vague. I figured eventually people would say something, but no one ever did.
This happened when I was a brand new lurker over here. Her sn was like marynjoe or something. It sounded like her husband was an important figure wherever they were from and *something* happened. It was all very vague. I figured eventually people would say something, but no one ever did.
Ah, my favorite! When people ask for advice but are so so SO vague on the details. Thanks for the internet blue balls!
You know what's interesting? How at the end of the day it's really just a fight for control. I've been thinking a lot of the last week about how much utter and complete bullshit has been spewed here in the last five years about what a nicer, warmer place the new nest is compared to the days of old. And even the last week has been dismissed as growing pains.
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. Last week was the meanest I have ever seen this place. . There was a literal hate crime directed at someone's workplace. People turned on women they've known for decades. And in the middle of what was really a very legitimate complaint by people who had suffered real aggressions (by the "kinder, gentler ML" I might add) a whole different group rose up and used that as an excuse to go for the jugular against anyone who was even marginally on the wrong side in the first brutal fight. So sure, it may feel nicer to some of you because the girls who were mean to you were driven off, but anyone who really believes that kinder, gentler shit has a very short memory.
This happened when I was a brand new lurker over here. Her sn was like marynjoe or something. It sounded like her husband was an important figure wherever they were from and *something* happened. It was all very vague. I figured eventually people would say something, but no one ever did.
I was thinking about Fuckstick the other day. Honestly, I can't remember why she left. But I do remember she was struggling with an early loss and I hope she's doing ok.
People turned on women they've known for decades. And in the middle of what was really a very legitimate complaint by people who had suffered real aggressions (by the "kinder, gentler ML" I might add) a whole different group rose up and used that as an excuse to go for the jugular against anyone who was even marginally on the wrong side in the first brutal fight. So sure, it may feel nicer to some of you because the girls who were mean to you were driven off, but anyone who really believes that kinder, gentler shit has a very short memory.
See, I actually think the "mean girls" played a role in what happened here, at least tangentially. For people who may have recognized what Booby was doing to Kirkette (and I'll freely admit, I wasn't one of them- I thought Booby was just being a dick, per usual), can you not see why they could have been hesitant to speak up?
Then, Booby gets a new target in addition to Kirkette. And where Booby went- others followed suit. She (or one of her friends) could easily dig through her new target's history, find some dumb shit she said in the fall of 2012, and use that as a reason why the new poster was also dumb/crazy/her opinion meant nothing. And then, whee! New pile on!
I agree with pantsparty. The irony that they left because we were being "mean" (if that is, in fact the case) just. . leaves me speechless.
People turned on women they've known for decades. And in the middle of what was really a very legitimate complaint by people who had suffered real aggressions (by the "kinder, gentler ML" I might add) a whole different group rose up and used that as an excuse to go for the jugular against anyone who was even marginally on the wrong side in the first brutal fight. So sure, it may feel nicer to some of you because the girls who were mean to you were driven off, but anyone who really believes that kinder, gentler shit has a very short memory.
See, I actually think the "mean girls" played a role in what happened here, at least tangentially. For people who may have recognized what Booby was doing to Kirkette (and I'll freely admit, I wasn't one of them- I thought Booby was just being a dick, per usual), can you not see why they could have been hesitant to speak up?
Then, Booby gets a new target in addition to Kirkette. And where Booby went- others followed suit. She (or one of her friends) could easily dig through her new target's history, find some dumb shit she said in the fall of 2012, and use that as a reason why the new poster was also dumb/crazy/her opinion meant nothing. And then, whee! New pile on!
I agree with pantsparty . The irony that they left because we were being "mean" (if that is, in fact the case) just. . leaves me speechless.
Well honestly, I think it's more complicated than that. I was just pointing that out because airing of grievances was pointed out as the main reason why they might be gone. Toledo, for instance, took off right away, which means privacy was probably her main concern. Kevin hadn't been posting very frequently anyway.
The phrase "they eat their own" comes to mind, that's for sure.
I think some will be back. I already said I don't think toledo will be back. As all of us who've been around a loooong time can probably attest, this is just the way the board ebbs and flows. There are regulars that have left and we all swore it wasn't even possible to go on without them because they added so much. But they left and we did. And sometimes seasons of life meant more people were more prolific posters, but then it cycled around and other people were posting more regularly. I'll miss them if they don't return but am so grateful for what they've added over the years.
Yes, this is totally the thought I have been trying to portray. I think we're already seeing people step up and post more often.
Post by oregonpachey on Feb 10, 2016 11:32:48 GMT -5
What happened with Marle? She posted a thread asking if people could claim they know her or were friends with her and then absolute radio silence after that.
What happened with Marle? She posted a thread asking if people could claim they know her or were friends with her and then absolute radio silence after that.
I hope she is okay.
She needed to step back and spend time on other things. She and her family are doing well
I think some will be back. I already said I don't think toledo will be back. As all of us who've been around a loooong time can probably attest, this is just the way the board ebbs and flows. There are regulars that have left and we all swore it wasn't even possible to go on without them because they added so much. But they left and we did. And sometimes seasons of life meant more people were more prolific posters, but then it cycled around and other people were posting more regularly. I'll miss them if they don't return but am so grateful for what they've added over the years.
Yes, this is totally the thought I have been trying to portray. I think we're already seeing people step up and post more often.
Are they posting more or are they being noticed now? I don't think my posting has changed.
Those couple days went far beyond "mean girls" angst. Some of the missing ML'er's integrity was being questioned. That is far and away beyond the scope of Mean Girls.
"Why would you ruin perfectly good peanuts by adding candy corn? That's like saying hey, I have these awesome nachos, guess I better add some dryer lint." - Nonny
Those couple days went far beyond "mean girls" angst. Some of the missing ML'er's integrity was being questioned. That is far and away beyond the scope of Mean Girls.
I've wondered about the poster (runnermom?) whose son ended up pooping in his pants because the teacher wouldn't let him go to the bathroom. She was paged but never came back (that I saw) to update.
I don't remember who it was but I could swear she updated that she raised hell with principal who sided with her, told her it wasn't policy at all and kid could use bathroom whenever he didn't. I could have just imagined that though...
There was one update but I feel like it was still open ended and I know myself and someone else paged her but crickets. No further update. BUT I could have missed it- it's very possible.
ETA: I went and looked it up - yeah, she talked to the superintendent who was pissed. And she had a note that her son had to be allowed to use the nearest facility. But I still wanted to know how the teacher and principal reacted after all that!
Speaking of updates, eb, how is your household doing with David's faith? I know you had said there were some interesting discussions going on.
I hope it's okay that I asked. Feel free not to answer if it's too intrusive.
Oh, of course! I'm pretty much an open book on here. :-)
On top of the curriculum at his school (learning about Islam, Christianity and Judaism), there is a very large Catholic and Christian population at David's school. When I was volunteering awhile back, a little girl ran up to me and said "Mrs. C. I'm so happy! I'm a missionary now! I convinced *Jill* to believe in Christ!" Well, we later found Jill crying because she thought she was going to hell. She's Hindu.
I talked to David and this is the little girl he sits by in class. I'm not blaming it all on this little girl, there is so much talk of "if you don't believe X, you're going to hell" at this school. The curriculum of learning about all of the religions added an extra layer to David's confusion. We've been working through it- teaching him to love and respect all religions and to follow his heart but also ask himself "does this sound right? Does this make me a good person? Am I judging anyone else?" I told him that as long as he's not hurting anyone, we'll respect his religious choices (we are agnostic but lean toward believing).
Thank you for asking! :-)
How old is your son?
DD is 5.5. On some thanksgiving project she did at school, she said she was thankful for God (whom we have never spoken of to her). I posted it on FB b/c she also mentioned trees and food and I thought it was funny that she didn't mention her family at all. SIL then bought her a Veggie Tales Daily Devotion book for Christmas. DD loves it. We have to read it every day. I would say I'm mostly agnostic at this point in my life. DH would probably say he was a non practicing Christian.
I don't know if/what I should tell DD about religion and how some people don't believe what she does and that's ok. She did learn a little about different religious holidays around Christmas time at school, but that's the only exposure she's gotten. I don't think there's any diversity in her class, and if there is, she doesn't know it.
I guess, I'm just curious about how to age appropriately tell her that religion is a belief, but not a fact. Though she's free to believe her faith in God is fact.
I was thinking about Fuckstick the other day. Honestly, I can't remember why she left. But I do remember she was struggling with an early loss and I hope she's doing ok.
She's doing well and said the break has been good for her.