We had 4 Bernie to 2 Hillary delegates. I'm in the burbs so less hippies, but I was the youngest Hillary voter in my precinct by about 30 years. I'm a delegate for the next tier. Everything was very civil, but the people leading and counting votes were morons.
FWIW, the mess that happened in my state this year prompted a bipartisan effort to go back to a primary. They are working on it now (HF2735 for you MN peeps).
Sorry I wasn't posting while caucusing. But I do have this:
Kiddo wanted to come to the caucus with me. She was great, listened and even asked two questions.
When the discussions on "Obama hasn't done anything about Wall Street! And Hillary will be more of the same!" she raised her hand and asked "If Wall Street has been around longer than Obama, how come everyone is mad at HIM about it?" A Bernie supporter responded with "that's a good point!" and they went on with their "He's been against Wall Street his entire career!" talking points.
She asked "What are his thoughts on protecting the environment?" And the responses were "He was the first one to talk about it out of all the candidates." and "He has a great platform on it." but that was about it.
As we were walking out to the car she said "You know, nobody really answered my questions." EVEN A TWELVE YEAR OLD NOTICED!
I wish I'd been able to comment a bit more but there were a few loud voices talking over each other. I got my main points in. I will give you all credit for my arguments that underprivileged and underserved need to be educated from PRESCHOOL and K-12 and free college doesn't help if you can't pass the classes. Hillary is for free community college, aid for those in need and, most importantly, ECE and funding for schools so kids CAN get prepared for college. Free college doesn't help if you can't pass the classes and can't afford the other expenses.
I also pointed out the misogyny in Hillary being shrill, not being able to appear with wild hair or wrinkled suits, having to be modulated at all times, etc. And yes, I got the "I don't need to vote for Hillary just because she is/I am a woman. That doesn't matter." tripe from a younger Berner. I was pretty outraged and offended but thank GOD that my neighbor, also a Hillary supporter, a teacher and very modulated and calm, responded with "flip flopping isn't lying. I have a lot of respect for people who change their minds because it shows growth. And as for a woman in office, IT IS IMPORTANT. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME." She was almost in tears when she was saying it. I was going to respond with "That is a very privileged view to take." but I did state in one of my earlier attempts (when discussing the misogyny) that as someone of a "certain age" not much younger than Hillary, who *has* been walked to my car by a male supervisor and being told that "as a woman..." and gotten the glass ceiling speech when a man was promoted over me, and who has been told "Smile, you'll be so much prettier." and all those other tiny micro-aggressions, it's important to take that into account when you're viewing Hillary through the "she's a sneaky, conniving, ice cold witch" lens. Because that has been a conservative talking point for her entire career as a non-conforming woman in a position of power as long as she has.
I did get HillaryCare wasn't passed back in 1992 when she was First Lady and it was deemed HillaryCare and she was excoriated for sitting in on the committees. But it eventually became CHIP and all children were insured and ObamaCare came from that. My neighbor, Lord Love Her, pointed out that it's much easier to get change incrementally because we DO have to work across party lines (also what I said when calling Hillary a moderate. She doesn't change her mind so much as compromises with others to get things accomplished) than do what Bernie is proposing and scrapping the entire system and starting over from scratch.
I'll think of more probably but that's the important stuff that I remember.
We had a 2/1 ratio of Berner to Hillary and 3 delegates to 1 after the math, darn it. But hey, I'm our precinct delegate for Hillary. Go team Hillary.
I discussed with Kiddo the "it's not important to vote for her because she's a woman" speech and asked what she thought about it. She responded with something along the lines of "It shows girls that we aren't important and can't do things." :verklempt.
Also, we had one WOC in our group, who is a Bernie supporter. She mentioned the issues with everything that went down under the Clinton administration that have been discussed here, and how she has to talk to her children about how to behave because of it. After we'd voted and the Hillary folk were all done and gone, and we had to give our names to the secretary (who was the vocal young lady Berner) and I mentioned to her that I appreciated her comments, it's something we talk about regularly with others. I appreciated the words coming from her because it's taken differently when coming from her with her melanin as opposed to me with my glow-in-the-dark skin (not my words to her but I'm saying it here with a sense of humor I think some of you can take.) I said it to her, in a normal voice so that everyone in the group could hear (I made sure of that, lol), and told her "...So we *all* can hear it from someone who lives it every day (and did the sweep the arm to encompass the group thing). I talk about it with a lot of other people but it means more when it comes from someone who lives it." I mentioned that I'd been defriended by some because apparently my support means that I'm anti-police. She responded with "Why can't we be pro-BLM and anti-BAD-police but not anti-POLICE?" Which obviously is the crux of the matter that I try to speak to. I closed out with "Hillary supporters hear it too, and listen and talk about it. I just wanted you to know that."