Southern Charm

[cleo29]

Jul 6, 2016 13:06:43 GMT -5 tamarindy said:

Look, Landon is annoying as hell and I don't think I could stand her voice for over a minute or two, tops. But Kathryn is batshit.

Who cares if Landon slept with Thomas? They weren't/aren't together. Why does Kathryn give two shits about her? Then she screams at Landon that she can't have an opinion until she has children and that she was fired as a stepmother? As annoying as she is, I give Landon at least a bit of props for leaving her unhappy marriage and the money and security it brought her to start over (even though it's comically bad when she tries to do anything businesslike). I feel like the backlash against Landon has been pretty extreme with people giving Kathryn a pass and I don't get it.

I think Landon would have been off if she kept her criticism of Kathryn strictly to being manipulative with Trav and pretty much trying to get a proposal out of him by having kids with him. But, instead she pretty much calls her a slut while not saying anything remotely the same of Thomas, which is pretty fucking rich. They need to keep her sexual history out of it and keep their comments to other things because NO ONE there is a saint, especially the men, and yet they do not get the same shit from Landon or Cameran.

I do think Kathryn thought having kids with Thomas was a way to lock him down and now that it has not worked, she is just pissed off. I think it is fair to think poorly of someone who would do that. And I do think she has some issues because she cannot seem to have a conversation without taking it to crazy levels. And beyond the comments, Landon, for whatever reason, represents all the women Thomas has been with, cheated with, etc. and so I think she takes the brunt of Kathryn's anger with Thomas. Maybe it is easier to be angry with her than with the father of her children whom she has to find a way to parent with in a civil manner.

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Jul 6, 2016 13:06:43 GMT -5 tamarindy said:

Look, Landon is annoying as hell and I don't think I could stand her voice for over a minute or two, tops. But Kathryn is batshit.

Who cares if Landon slept with Thomas? They weren't/aren't together. Why does Kathryn give two shits about her? Then she screams at Landon that she can't have an opinion until she has children and that she was fired as a stepmother? As annoying as she is, I give Landon at least a bit of props for leaving her unhappy marriage and the money and security it brought her to start over (even though it's comically bad when she tries to do anything businesslike). I feel like the backlash against Landon has been pretty extreme with people giving Kathryn a pass and I don't get it.

I don't think it's been extreme at all and I LOVED that Andy called her out on a ton of shit. Especially noting that she was not well liked on social media. #StickItLandon

I can't stand Landon because she spent the entire season slut shaming Kathryn. Her voice is annoying yes, but the double standard she held was a step back for women. 

And she is so FULL OF SHIT when she says that she wasn't trying to rile up K when she would instagram photos with TRav. Give me a break. They were using each other to get back at Kathryn.

Do I think that K is immature as all hell and could use some lessons on emotional restraint? Sure. But she was hit hard this season with some pretty heavy judgments and she was ready to start firing at that reunion. 

Also wanted to add how hysterical it was that Andy pulled out the footage/pics from Cameron during her GGW days. "Oh.....so you say you have standards? WHAT ABOUT THIS CAMERON??? "

THE BEST

God I love Andy. 

[morecoffeeplease]

I don't understand why Landon goes at Kathryn. Kathryn was a mess at the reunion, but that's not shocking. Why not go the way of cameran and just keep quiet. Landon's constant smug smile and comments just made her look worse. Kathryn came off terribly I thought but so did Landon because she just couldn't knock it off.

[Lucy Honeychurch]

Jul 6, 2016 13:06:43 GMT -5 tamarindy said:

Look, Landon is annoying as hell and I don't think I could stand her voice for over a minute or two, tops. But Kathryn is batshit.

Who cares if Landon slept with Thomas? They weren't/aren't together. Why does Kathryn give two shits about her? Then she screams at Landon that she can't have an opinion until she has children and that she was fired as a stepmother? As annoying as she is, I give Landon at least a bit of props for leaving her unhappy marriage and the money and security it brought her to start over (even though it's comically bad when she tries to do anything businesslike). I feel like the backlash against Landon has been pretty extreme with people giving Kathryn a pass and I don't get it.

I give Kathryn a break compared to Landon; I admit it.  Because Landon ought to know better, for one thing; and for another, while I think Kathryn is unbalanced and likely in the throes of some kind of self-medicating addiction, she doesn't strike me as a mean person.  Landon, however, is a seriously nasty little piece of work.  I think she was brought up to do this kind of passive-aggressive, wide-eyed-innocent stuff -- the invitation to Shep's party, the posting of the photos, etc. 

At this point, I don't think Kathryn cares if they slept together, except that it would prove they, and in particular Landon, had been gaslighting her for over a year over this. 

[morecoffeeplease]

I agree with Lucy. I don't think Kathryn really cares about the actual sex right now. She cares that they are making her seem like the crazy person.

[fivechickens]

Jul 6, 2016 14:08:31 GMT -5 Lucy Honeychurch said:

Jul 6, 2016 13:06:43 GMT -5 tamarindy said:

Look, Landon is annoying as hell and I don't think I could stand her voice for over a minute or two, tops. But Kathryn is batshit.

Who cares if Landon slept with Thomas? They weren't/aren't together. Why does Kathryn give two shits about her? Then she screams at Landon that she can't have an opinion until she has children and that she was fired as a stepmother? As annoying as she is, I give Landon at least a bit of props for leaving her unhappy marriage and the money and security it brought her to start over (even though it's comically bad when she tries to do anything businesslike). I feel like the backlash against Landon has been pretty extreme with people giving Kathryn a pass and I don't get it.

I give Kathryn a break compared to Landon; I admit it.  Because Landon ought to know better, for one thing; and for another, while I think Kathryn is unbalanced and likely in the throes of some kind of self-medicating addiction, she doesn't strike me as a mean person.  Landon, however, is a seriously nasty little piece of work.  I think she was brought up to do this kind of passive-aggressive, wide-eyed-innocent stuff -- the invitation to Shep's party, the posting of the photos, etc. 

At this point, I don't think Kathryn cares if they slept together, except that it would prove they, and in particular Landon, had been gaslighting her for over a year over this. 

I agree with all of this.

Landon deserves any backlash she is getting.

[tamarindy]

Well I can't really stand either of them but the defense of Kathryn always confounds me. Slut-shaming by Landon? Kathryn accused Landon of sleeping with everyone she meets while she literally slept with every guy on the cast. But yet everyone defends her. Because she's younger? I don't get it.

I actually liked Kathryn last season and felt sorry for her but she is in this mess because she wanted a way onto this cast. It's like, why does she expect Cameran to want to be BFFs with her? She's a decade younger and is on the show because she has two kids with a dude 30 years older who jerks her around for fun. What does she actually have in common with Cameran?

I understand they have to film all together, get the drama for the show, etc. but if Kathryn had any sense of priorities she would drop the show, get clean and start thinking more about her kids than if stupid Landon slept with her skankbag baby daddy or not.

[pagas]

Landon continues to be the worst.

I still like Whitney, it's inexplicable, but I do.

Andy did a great job hosting, better than usual.

[orval]

Jul 6, 2016 16:13:43 GMT -5 pagas said:

Landon continues to be the worst.

I still like Whitney, it's inexplicable, but I do.

Andy did a great job hosting, better than usual.

I agree on both counts.  For some reason, I feel like I can relate to Whitney and he a decent person at heart. I also think he does/did have some kind of feelings for Kathryn. It would also explain why his mother is so pissy about her when she has no reason to be at all.

[fivechickens]

Jul 6, 2016 16:10:18 GMT -5 tamarindy said:

Well I can't really stand either of them but the defense of Kathryn always confounds me. Slut-shaming by Landon? Kathryn accused Landon of sleeping with everyone she meets while she literally slept with every guy on the cast. But yet everyone defends her. Because she's younger? I don't get it.

I actually liked Kathryn last season and felt sorry for her but she is in this mess because she wanted a way onto this cast. It's like, why does she expect Cameran to want to be BFFs with her? She's a decade younger and is on the show because she has two kids with a dude 30 years older who jerks her around for fun. What does she actually have in common with Cameran?

I understand they have to film all together, get the drama for the show, etc. but if Kathryn had any sense of priorities she would drop the show, get clean and start thinking more about her kids than if stupid Landon slept with her skankbag baby daddy or not.

Not that I agree with either comment but Landon said on the show first that Kathryn does her best work on her back. She also said on reunion that she did say it and she still believes it. Again I don't agree with it but she was pushed to it at that point, IMO.

She was not trying to become Cameron's BFF (that is a leap), more like, she was trying to make amends with her and probably find out what she had done to Cameron deserve all the animosity.

[bowies]

This reunion was pretty meh. Watching Kathryn fidget all over the place was so uncomfortable. I wanted to physically restrain her because she was making my skin itch.

Whitney definitely came off the best, mainly by staying silent. And Craig, such a dummy.

Everything I wanted to say about Kathryn/Thomas/Landon I said last week. I did roll my eyes hard over Kathryn's assertion that she takes care of her kids full time...but conveniently ignores that she has two nannies.

I thought it was interesting that they showed the picture of the guy at the polo match who was setting Kathryn's teeth on edge. The whole exchange was confusing - did they say he was a porn actor?

[chchchia]

Jul 6, 2016 19:17:42 GMT -5 bowies said:

This reunion was pretty meh. Watching Kathryn fidget all over the place was so uncomfortable. I wanted to physically restrain her because she was making my skin itch.

Whitney definitely came off the best, mainly by staying silent. And Craig, such a dummy.

Everything I wanted to say about Kathryn/Thomas/Landon I said last week. I did roll my eyes hard over Kathryn's assertion that she takes care of her kids full time...but conveniently ignores that she has two nannies.

I thought it was interesting that they showed the picture of the guy at the polo match who was setting Kathryn's teeth on edge. The whole exchange was confusing - did they say he was a porn actor?

No they never said he was a porn star and now it makes sense that she flipped out at the polo match, that guy oozed sleaze every time they showed him.

Whitney did come off the best and I do think he has something for Kathryn and it was sweet the way he hugged and I think he gained a few points in my book. He was WWHL with dumb and dumber the night before they shot the reunion and I thought he sounded like an asshole about Kathryn if anyone came out looking the wisest and kindest on that whole set, it was Whitney.

[orval]

I thought they did say he was a porn actor.

[chchchia]

Jul 7, 2016 14:04:22 GMT -5 orval said:

I thought they did say he was a porn actor.

They said it at the reunion but not at the time?

[orval]

Jul 7, 2016 14:05:19 GMT -5 chchchia said:

Jul 7, 2016 14:04:22 GMT -5 orval said:

I thought they did say he was a porn actor.

They said it at the reunion but not at the time?

yes

[bowies]

I listened to Bitch Sesh tonight and OMG - supposedly spinoff shows are in the works for other cities.