Post by jeaniebueller on Sept 16, 2016 8:29:54 GMT -5
He's such a fucking asshole. HE DIDN'T "OBTAIN PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE WHEN OTHERS COULD NOT." The President released it himself because Trump was making such a distraction of this bullshit issue.
He is an asshole. POC are not stupid and will see right through this. People aren't going to just be like "oh ok he's good now". Although I'm pretty sure this isn't for POC. This is for white people, which makes it so offensive. Like the only way they'll believe that Obama is American is if the white man tells them he is. Also, so those on the fence will feel better voting for him.
The rumor is that at his new hotel opening ceremony today, he's going to announce he believes Obama was born in the US. Basically he's using a political stunt to get lots of press coverage for his completely non-political event.
You know what - it still isn't enough. I don't care if you BELIEVE. What I want to hear is that you understand you have been a shit pig about all of this and that you were wrong. That his just saying he was born in the US was enough. I don't care if you fucking believe a single thing - belief does not equal anything.
Is he fucking serious? He already showed his ass regarding this topic and has dragged it out for WAY longer than it should have been (meaning the second he even opened his mouth on the subject).
Why is the new response "I'm not going to say anything about that, because that's all you will talk about" become the new thing? Does he really think that's going to work? Does he think he's Cartman?
He is an asshole. POC are not stupid and will see right through this. People aren't going to just be like "oh ok he's good now". Although I'm pretty sure this isn't for POC. This is for white people, which makes it so offensive. Like the only way they'll believe that Obama is American is if the white man tells them he is. Also, so those on the fence will feel better voting for him.
I liked this post because I think you're right. Of course the whole situation of Trump (really his campaign) doing it for white people in his self-congratulatory manner is disgusting.
Is he fucking serious? He already showed his ass regarding this topic and has dragged it out for WAY longer than it should have been (meaning the second he even opened his mouth on the subject).
Sure, but dragging out Obama's birth certificate is going to be far* less damaging for him than letting the press ask him for his tax returns or repeat whatever racist thing he has most recently said.
The rumor is that at his new hotel opening ceremony today, he's going to announce he believes Obama was born in the US. Basically he's using a political stunt to get lots of press coverage for his completely non-political event.
AND YET: approximately half of our fellow citizens are voting for him as leader of the free world. (Mentally Sobbing😭)
This was discussed on Today this morning. Nicole Wallace was not part of the panel today so there weren't any quips about this not being a big deal, or letting Trump's lies slide by.
I don't watch the Today show or much of MSNBC beyond Maddow; is NW a Trump supporter? I thought she was anti-Trump.
Post by earlgreyhot on Sept 16, 2016 9:32:05 GMT -5
From the Wapo article linked above:
“I don’t care. My facts are good. My facts are good. I don’t get enough credit for having my facts right,” Trump said. “They’ll say I’m wrong even when I’m right.”
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY are journalists letting him get away with these statements.
Why is the new response "I'm not going to say anything about that, because that's all you will talk about" become the new thing? Does he really think that's going to work? Does he think he's Cartman?
I'm pretty sure that not being willing to just say it straight out is a subtle signal to his fellow birthers/alt-righters. So he can avoid saying something that is the opposite of what he's said for years, his campaign can put out a nice, predictable little statement, and then he'll pick a time and a place of his choosing to say that yes, he believes Obama was born in the U.S.
It's all theater designed to tell people what they want to believe. The alt-right will recognize that he is being "forced" to do this to appeal to more mainstream voters and take the "reversal" process as evidence that he still thinks Obama is a foreign-born Muslim. Those who shy away from the overt racism/xenophobia/conspiracy theory bullshit of that claim will be able to comfort themselves that Trump really *doesn't* believe that, because hey, he said so!
Trump Jr was on GMA today and was of course deflecting when asked when Trump will actually SAY those words. Idiot Jr was all "we want to talk about the policies...we don't want to distract...I was there in the press release meeting and he said that...". George definitely gave him pushback but it's long overdue.
I just got a CNN alert that he is discussing this now.
I don't care! I don't need to hear him discuss it! We all know what he was saying when he said Obama wasn't born here.
For the record, he isn't discussing this RIGHT NOW. Instead it's a bunch of old white men talking about how they support Trump. Such interesting insights such as "deplorables are also deployables"
This was discussed on Today this morning. Nicole Wallace was not part of the panel today so there weren't any quips about this not being a big deal, or letting Trump's lies slide by.
I don't watch the Today show or much of MSNBC beyond Maddow; is NW a Trump supporter? I thought she was anti-Trump.
Well, she's a Republican and I don't think she's a NeverTrumper. Over the summer, particularly before the Dem convention, she was not shy about calling out the trainwreck the R's and Trump was, but it seems like lately she's excusing him a little more. When they were talking about the questionable practices of his charitable organization earlier this week, she was like, oh that's not big deal, people are going to care about the details of the stuff a charitable organization does....instead of admitting that what he did could possibly be fraudulent.
OMG that was the biggest ridiculous build up I have ever seen!!!! He said three sentences and then left the stage to screams from the press of "Why did it take so long?!?!"
I don't watch the Today show or much of MSNBC beyond Maddow; is NW a Trump supporter? I thought she was anti-Trump.
Well, she's a Republican and I don't think she's a NeverTrumper. Over the summer, particularly before the Dem convention, she was not shy about calling out the trainwreck the R's and Trump was, but it seems like lately she's excusing him a little more. When they were talking about the questionable practices of his charitable organization earlier this week, she was like, oh that's not big deal, people are going to care about the details of the stuff a charitable organization does....instead of admitting that what he did could possibly be fraudulent.
Thanks for updating me. The last time I paid attention to their panels was the convention and it seemed she was pretty tough on him. Sad to see her dismissing his crazy as normal. The normalization of crazy is going to be one of the worst legacies of this election cycle. Not the worst but up there.
Trump Jr was on GMA today and was of course deflecting when asked when Trump will actually SAY those words. Idiot Jr was all "we want to talk about the policies...we don't want to distract...I was there in the press release meeting and he said that...". George definitely gave him pushback but it's long overdue.
On yesterday's Keeping it 1600 podcast, Dan Pfeiffer called Junior Fredo, and I died. It was so apt.
And I can't believe that it is fucking news that a major candidate is (finally!) admitting that our current President is an American citizen. The fact that this isn't worthy of the same level of attention as "hey guys, water is wet" but is generating all of the free press in the world is goddamn maddening.
Post by miniroller on Sept 16, 2016 10:45:49 GMT -5
Everyone that I'm seeing is PISSED!!!! Pissed the Muther F Off about Trump conning the media into broadcasting thirty minutes of veterans announcing their support for Trump at his flipping hotel, came out with a three sentence speech, & walked away. People are PISSY!
Everyone that I'm seeing is PISSED!!!! Pissed the Muther F Off about Trump conning the media into broadcasting thirty minutes of veterans announcing their support for Trump at his flipping hotel, came out with a three sentence speech, & walked away. People are PISSY!
And don't forget - two of the three sentances were LIES. Blatant lies!!! Clinton did not start the birther controvery, and he most definitely did not end it. OMG I AM STILL SO RILED UP.
He's a fucking mess. It's like someone took a bottle of Orange Crush and shook it up. BOOM. Explosion. It's sticky and everywhere and it's rotting everyone's teeth. FUCK THIS DUDE. I am so sick and goddamn tired of this shit. He's lying whenever possible and just getting away with it via the media. I cannot.